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Author Post Ptichka Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/14/2004 5:41:06 PM   Trad don't be afraid, I was laughing at all talking above so much that I almost fell off my chair:))) It's a good rest when writing my work for Master's degree:)) Thank you all:))) No not 4...my favourite and the lucky number is 13.........:)))) tradman Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/14/2004 5:54:04 PM   no way I can afford 13 camels Ptichka, lovely as you are, anyway, you are spoken for and I don't think 13 camels will swing the deal:)))) Ptichka Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/14/2004 6:02:28 PM   and I wasn't talking about the camels:))) about the number and that's all:) actually would never want to live in the same country with camels:) tradman Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/14/2004 6:03:48 PM   me ither, smelly and full of fundamentalist Arabs....lol:))) I have a couple of cows, any good? Ptichka Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/14/2004 6:11:21 PM   cows...no sorry, I'm a "Child of a city", and never had a good idea about living in a village...though my grandparents always wanted me to live there with them:) tradman Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/14/2004 6:15:31 PM   well I am a country boy Ptichka, and a couple of fine cows is no mnean exchange, less chance of getting my face slapped, milking a couple of cows:))))) eeyore Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/14/2004 11:36:29 PM   Ptichka, Re. Camels: I believe that if you travel east you will find some animals that look very much like camels. -Not in your country, but certainly in the Former Sovjet Union... Ptichka Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/15/2004 3:36:35 AM   eeyore so what??? I'm not fond of camels, I saw one in the zoo...chewing and spitting animal....brrrr....disgusting. :) eeyore Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/15/2004 3:53:50 AM   Ptichka, Re. Camels: -and they bite too, and they crush people they do not like by sitting on them. However, I probably did not express myself clearly enough, when your 'country' was the USSR there *were* camels in your country. Ptichka Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/15/2004 3:55:14 AM   eeyore so what???:) I know that. But in Ukraine you could see them only in the zoo, and that was enough for me:) I prefer cats, cats of any size:) Including tigers, lions, and so on:) eeyore Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/15/2004 6:22:01 AM   Ptichka, You prefer cats. For 'home use' the so-called domestic cat is probably the most practical. But it is hardly 'domestic' - a cat is always 'its own'. And while dogs have masters, cats have servants... A dog finds the food bowl always well supplied by his master and thinks: "He must be god" A cat finds the food bowl always well supplied by his master and thinks: "I must be god" Ptichka Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/15/2004 6:31:38 AM   eeyore I know that:) And this is why I prefer cats to dogs:)) Cants have the character, and their are strong personalities. I have a cat, and he lives with us for 7 years now, and he loves us greatly, and doesn't like to be left alone at home, though he is very independent, and we love him for that very much:) He lives with my parents, and when I come to see them once a week, he misses me so much, that all the evening and night and morning he tries to be close with me, and he sleeps on the same bed with me:) sk8er Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/15/2004 8:56:26 AM   Hey Guys, My name is Brian Clifford,an American ,I am an agency owner in Vinnitsa Ukraine. I came to the f.S.U.in search of my second half,after a few trips I learned that it would take more time to achieve this goal than a visit or two allows. So I moved here last year and started up arussindestiny. In the nine months I have been in operation I have learned that most agencies are not to be trusted. Basically it is a matter of "blind faith" on the mans part. Men simply hope that they are being told the truth by the lady and the agency. This system lends itself to rampant abuse,trust me I could be very successful in a monetary sence if I were so inclined.I am not trying to "toot my own horn", but I am trying to run an honest business,so if I can help with advice or answer questions feel free to contact me. Brian Clifford. olegnay Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/15/2004 9:48:00 AM   so, are you advertising your services here? GLTALLTOAD Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/15/2004 10:31:28 AM   So, Brian... All the other agencies that have been in business for more than a decade are bad...and yours is good?? To begin with, I suggest you contact Olga and ASK PERMISSION to toot your own damn horn in this forum. You're not only freeloading, you're doing it under the assumption that because you are american everyone here is going to feel safe with your claims of honest business practices. Nothing could be farther from the truth. For all we know you could be a mule for drug dealers trafficking through Ukraine into Moldova and western europe or a wanted mass murderer in hiding from Interpol or even a recruiter for the Los angeles based ring of white slavery from eastern europe. Get lost, Brian.... toad sk8er Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/16/2004 7:39:36 AM   Olga, Am I advertising my service? yes,I am advertising the fact that there are many less than ethical marriage agencies out there. If a man wants to contact me for free advice, he is welcome,that is all. Thanks,Brian Clifford. toad, perhaps you should read my post again and you will see that I did NOT claim all agencies are bad,simply most. If I were in hiding from Interpol,if I were a drug dealer or involved in white slavery, I probably would not have a web site with my phone #s, my photo and a map, showing exactly where to find me,now would I.... All that I wrote was the truth,if you are as paranoid as you lead me to believe,that is your problem, not mine. Please do not worry you will not hear from me again,but I will sit back and read all the woeful tales written by men who have been burned and will continue to be burned. After reading them I will shake my head and say, to no one in particular,wow, one simple phone call or email sure could have saved that guy a lot of trouble. Have fun, Brian Clifford. TimH Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/16/2004 5:38:40 PM   Uzbekistan and Khazakstan are mostly desert, how else would anyone get about in them but on camels ? Eeyore, you have a real, and annoying talent for stating the absolutely bloody obvious !! But there were never any camels in Ukraine apart from in the zoo !! Ptichka, is a Ukrainian, she lives in one of the most westerly parts of the FSU, one that never needed camels !! Maybe you should study the countries from which you hope to find a partner, a lot more before you even start to plan going there !!! Oh and "THERE ARE NO BEARS" either !!!! And I would suggest, very strongly, that you dont upset Miss P !! She is a valued poster on this forum and worth double most of the guys here !! Upset her and cause her to leave, and you might as well look for the MSN messenger site from then on, because you will certainly find your posting priviledges here are removed very quickly !!! Ptichka Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/16/2004 5:45:12 PM   Thank you Tim for your kind words to me a lot!!!:) I appreciate your kind opinion about me and my words here:) I remembered there were also a couple of camels in the circus, but they looked rather old, and tired...guess it's rather cool for them here, as I guess these animals got used to the hotter weather:) Yes no bears in the streets, just dogs and cats, and different birds:) GLTALLTOAD Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/16/2004 5:48:49 PM   Nobody does or should give a flying crap about bears and camels...unless, of course, one just happens to come barrelling down the tarmac after landing on your way to see your FSU sweetheart, lol..:))) such nonsense... toad scottlf Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/16/2004 5:49:00 PM   Okay, have we finally established that camels are not a good dowry offer? 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