I would like to be clear that this is going to include generalities... I see no way around it when talking about culture.
I am finally going to visit Russia or soon... and, as I work through all of the logistics for going, I also am asking myself:
What exactly is it that I'm looking for?
After getting over and how amazingly beautiful Russian women are externally, I still guess I am left with curiosity/hopes about their inner beauty, and their hearts.
I mean, what I want to Indonesian as a student a few years ago, I was completely shocked by the Indonesian "heart."
I'm not saying that all Indonesians are Saints, I encountered so much kindness, gentleness and warmth, from strangers that it blew me away.
So in looking to Russia for love, I guess part of what I'm doing is looking into a "dating pool" in which I'm hoping to find much more loving, open, caring beings that I have in the American dating pool.
Obviously, not every Russian women I meet will have heart of gold, I guess my hope is that a lot more hearts of gold exist over there, then here.
I guess the question I am asking is, is it possible that some cultures create more loving people than other cultures?
Just some thoughts, would love to hear other people's perspective.
Seth I think it doesn't depend on the culture if a person is more loving or not then in other cultures, it depends on the person exactly, there are good and bad people, loving and not so loving, caring and less caring...it all depends on the person's background, hopes and dreams, friends and people around...
It is true that girls (the majority at least, as you may know I'm not a fan of generalizing) in FSU tend to keep more tradition values in the sense of family, friends, relations with parents, and above all that the understanding of love...but exceptions may happen, and nobody will say you for sure the answer to the question you asked, unfortunately.
Is it possible that some cultures create more loving people than other cultures?
I guess that cultural background definitely influences people 's personalities. And there are certain features typical for majority f people in one country. I am not a fan of generalizing either, but I beleive that something called "national character" really exists.
Especially in Russia.
I also believe that the character of people will be shaped by the value system of the society they live in, just as it will be shaped by their parents and friends. If you look at Western society and how we are bombarded by images that promote the quest for material goods (better cars, luxury goods) and external beauty (it's amazing how encompassing that is, and even 12 year old girls are very aware of that, at least in the US) it's easy to see that more traditional values get lost along the way.
"After getting over and how amazingly beautiful Russian women are externally, I still guess I am left with curiosity/hopes about their inner beauty, and their hearts."
I can post my friend's words that are very demonstrative:
"I think you know if Natasha didn't have a heart of gold, and if she didn't make me laugh, and if she didn't have a brain, then her physical beauty wouldn't be very noticable to me. I don't believe a woman’s' beauty is only skin deep, I believe her real beauty goes all the way to her soul."
Marsh I agree with you, it is belived that if a woman is beautiful but has nothing inside her, then her beauty fades away very very fast, and even if a man is attracted to a beautiful woman at first, after several minutes talking with her he may get so disappointed that he won't note that beauty anymore. By the way this is the true about men as well :)
Completely agree with you Scott in the fact that we first are attracted to the body and face, and besides the person to whom another person feels attracted should not be very pretty or seam handsome to all. Beauty is a very subjective thing, to one a girl may be beautiful to another one she maybe not beautiful at all. The same thing with men:)
and if a person develops his mind and soul, and keeps fit, he or she will be beautiful no matter how many years passed. Because I personally think that beuty is something that never fades away, though a person may "kill" his own beauty.
I have met some that at first did not physically attract me. They were very attractive, but not in the way I find attractive. When I got to know that person, that person's inner beauty completely overrided my physical attraction desires.
From what Trad recently mentioned, he may be in that same boat. In that, I don't mean he was not physically attracted, but he states they have not had physical relations, and he is still head over heals.
I think all of us want to feel that way about our other halfs. :-)
Scott you are right, I cannot excuse my double standards, but I am sick of girls who fall into bed the first night. I loved the way she was openly affectionate, I cut my hand badly and she put her lips round the cut, she would ruffle my hair in public(not pubic:))) on the last two nights, she slept in my bed, in a long t shirt, she laughed when she found condoms in my case, but there was no way she was going to be a notch on some westerners bed post. she has such respect for herself, how could I failto respect her. at the airport, she said she was going to remove her profile, as she wanted to belong to me, and true to her word, it is gone. her agency will now translate direct emails between us. I have to say scott, I find her 10 times more beautiful now, then when I stepped off the plane, and she weren't bad then:)))
And yes, we are both head over heels, and that has happened without sex, which is still to be looked forward to.
How refreshing!!!
Lying bastards, lol....every single one of you!!!!
If these adorable FSU women were not so physically attactive to our own individual tastes and preferences, not one of us, (yes, me included)would be wasting a minute thinking if they have a 'heart of gold', or if the can 'make us laugh' or help us 'feel respected'.
I will never trust the word of any man here or anywhere else who claims that his woman or ideal woman's inner beauty is more important that her gorgeous body.
It is a well balanced combination of physical atributes and character values that causes us to consider entering and KEEPING a potentially serious relationship with any given woman. That's fine and dandy....but it all starts with the physical attraction.
And if you insist it's the other way around, you're so full of wind and fecal brain matter that if you farted in California, you'd blow off the torch of the Statue of Liberty, lol....
yes, Trad....the character values I mentioned above is what makes both of you create the famous 'chemistry' or 'sparks' or whatever you want to call it.
But the physical beauty is what everyone of us is lured into looking for more parts of what we consider "total package"
Well if If my x-swine put her profile on Fiance.com she would likely rise to Miss Wow status. But she is a swine and the beauty was only skin deep and didn't do me much god as the time wore on.
The day that I came across Lucy was a day when I was in one of those "let's check out those girls with out studio photos days". Yes she did meet my basic criteria of being petite and not ugly. But her photos were plain. It was a month after writing to her almost exclusively that she e-mailed more photos that showed her to be absolutely stunning (at least to my tastes,).
So obviously the physical enters the compatibility equation, but it is really only a starting point (after all if we don't want to have kids as ugly as we are, we have to marrp up, in the looks department).
My x would also grace the pages of miss wow ensata, but her outer coating was her only beauty. As far as the heart of Russia, I think that there are plenty of good women in Russia but plenty of bad. To tlak abot the word generaly, people become complacent were they live and miss the beauty staring them in the face. I do not realy talk about women I just mean the beauty of there home and surroundings. I work with an Itakian who married an Australian girl who he met in Italy. To me, Australia is Autralia but he thinks it is the friendliest place in the world. Everyone is happy saying hello to hime and her loves it here. Maybe if he grew up her her would not see all that beauty, as I tend to let it pass me by without paying attention all the time.