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	Create New Topic   My Posts   My forum buddies   Invite friends   Private messages Russian brides > Main Forum > helpful advice, if travelling to Moldova Author Post tradman Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/25/2004 2:54:40 PM   ensata, world traveller, if you need any advice, please ask, I will help with my limited experience. I cannot remember the guys name who went to Moldova a few weeks ago, but I remember he bad problems with the police and his girl was so jealous. As a precaution, I said to my girl, that I liked beautiful womena nd could not help but look, she smiled, that wonderful smile and laughed and said she was a little jealous, but that it was a natural thing for a man to do, and just hoped that I would think she was the most beautiful....so, not all Moldovans are pathologicaly jealous, don't worry ensata Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/25/2004 3:41:08 PM   Trad.. I am planning on bringing some small (but in some instances somewhat costly) gifts with me for Lucy and her family. WTraveler said that this is customary in Moldova. Just wondering if it would be safer to bring them carry on or regular luggage? I would like to bring a nice pocket knife for her brother-in law. Obviously this could not be done carry on, do you think it would make it through by regular luggage? Otherwise I'll bring him a bottle of some good booze. Have heard tale of customs agents helping themselves to stuff in peoples luggage. Lucy is a big fan of riding the bus, I would like to rent a car there. Did you have any experience on local busses there? And how are the drivers there? Any hassles with the visa at the airport, any problems with using debit or charge cards? and finally what is your opinion of air Moldova? Lots of questions, I probably don't know enough to ask the right ones. But any answers would be great! Thanks ensata Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/25/2004 3:42:02 PM   It was jet who went to Moldova a few weeks ago and had the experience with the police, and the possesive girl and all. tradman Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/25/2004 4:01:46 PM   Ensata, first thing to bear in mind is that you will pay prohibitive import taxes on presents you bring into Moldova, buy them there, or e mail the agency I used and for a small fee I am sure they will purchase what you want, also, a good bottle of spirits is so much cheaper in Moldova...All I took with me was some chocolates for my girl and the agency girls....I had already arranged for them to place 50 red roses in the apartment. I am sure you will get in with a knife in your luggage...I was asked a few mild questions at customs and had to show how much dollars, Euro's and sterling I had...no problem. I do not know how good lucy's english is, but they provide great translators for $10 per hour..I caught the bus once, more like what you Americans would call a mini bus, very crowded, smelly and sweaty.. I would suggest taxi's, very cheap, to give you an example, to Chisnau from the airport, about 12 miles.was between 3 and 4 dollars.probably cheaper than hiring a car. The main shopping centre is sun city, a few shops took credit card..the main restaurant I dined at "new york" also accepted credit cards.there is an atm in sun city andplenty in the banks in the main city street. Now the shock Ensata, I do not know about you, but no british airline flies to Moldova, so I travelled with hungarian airlines, I had to change at Budapest and shit myself when I realised my next plane was as long as a small boeing/airbus but was powered by propellors LOL..not wide bodied like ours, just a single and double seat across and very low roof, I could not stand up.despite my misgivings, the flight was ok and the hostesses were great. I am meeting my girl again in Romania next weekend and hope to be in Moldova again in a few weeks, may see you there....any other questions, then feel free. I would say, that if your girl in genuine and sincere(I am sure she is) then costly gifts are unesecarry, just something that you have given a lot of thought to.....in my earliest letters my girl said her daughter loved Britney and Barbie(no accounting for taste:) they did not cost much, but the girl was so happy( how long since I saw a simple present appreciated so much. when we went out, the little girl held my hand all day, was nice Musicman Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/26/2004 4:01:48 AM   Speaking of Moldova I am heading there for two weeks on July 3rd. My sweet lady and I are both VERY excited. I'm also a little nervous because it is my first trip overseas, but I "think" I have planned well. I am 32, she is 23 (younger than I normally date), and neither of us have children...yet. As crazy as it sounds (crazy to me as well) we are already in love. And no I don't fall easy:)) It is hard not to fall for a great girl when you talk to her on a web cam for 10-14 hours a week for over 7 months. It is almost like having 100 dates. (I said almost) She speaks English fine, and writes it very well. We still have some funny communication issues sometimes, but its all good. I was never looking for a FSU lady. I spoke to many ladies on the net, local and International. I have never had trouble meeting women, but I am very selective. I have a “real” job in marketing, but I also sing locally in a rock band, so I meet many women, but not many "ladies". People are amazed at how moral and innocently old-fashioned I am when they first get to know me. I am a musician, but I would be just as happy having a great wife and a few brown-eyed babies. J When I first saw her online of course her sweet looks and beauty intrigued me, but her sincerity, innocents and strong morals have kept me captivated. I have many photos of her family and she of mine. I spoke to her father for the first time on the phone last night. We could not communicate very well, but it was an honor to speak to him. He normally works in St. Petersburg to better support my ladies mom and family in the village she grew up in, and also to pay for her University education in Chisinau, but he will be there when I come next week. Nearly her whole family will be there as well. We will stay in an apartment in Chisinau (separate rooms at first, but neither of us is betting on how long that will last), and then go her family for a few nights in the village. I have been told I can rent a car for those longer drives, and I hope so. OK this is enough for now. Probably more than you wanted. Musicman tradman Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/26/2004 4:26:12 AM   Hi musicman, I wish you luck.Yes you can rent a car but taxi's are very cheap and Moldova is a small country. Morality seems to be very high in Moldova. I was so pleasantly surpised my girl, I was there 5 days and we did not make love, she did sleep in the same bed as myself on the last two nights, but there was only kissing and cuddling. I certainly made a move when arrived and was told no. I cannot tell you how many years, or decades since a girl said no. It is double standards on my part, but I am glad she said no, I have such respect for her.. so, I cannot speak for all girls, but in my experience, morality is high in Moldova ensata Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/26/2004 7:58:29 AM   Musicman and Trad, My sweet Lucy also seems to be a woman of wonderful values and morals. I suspect that my intimacy with her will parrell that of Trads and his girl- which would please me greatly! No prssure for sex but much intimacy would be great. (I know all you other readers probabably think that there must be a testosterone difficiency in we Moldolvan bound! Actually among other things I take T-supplements for body building purposes). Musicman - how long will you be in Moldova for? I will be there from July 9 to 16. In one village to visit her sister and family, in another village (Ungheni near Romania) to visit her parents. Will be in Chisinau the rest of the time in her apartment. If we overlap, how about a meeting? Lucy actually has two friends who have returned to Moldova with their American husbands for a visit. I will probably meet them in Chisinau. Give me an e-mail if you are interested. I know that her two friends have been a great source of support and knowledge for Lucy. She understands well what it would involve for her to marry and move to a new country as they have both done that. Of course maybe we would be old fogies to you (49 and 31)! But we are both quite friendly! Worldtraveller Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/26/2004 8:34:04 AM   Tradman, thanks for offering support. But I am regularly heading to Moldova since now 4 years and each year half a dozen times at least (not privat, for business issues). So I am very familar with the local situation. So I also offer you any support you wish to have! trad+ensata: do your future friends and family a big favour and DONīT buy presents in Moldova. They know very well the stuff you can get in Moldova. Lucyīs father will definitly value it much more, if you will bring him a present from you, from your country, like I wrote you, for example a bottle of whiskey. He will be proud and glad to offer later some glasses to his friends. It has nothing to do, if the presents costs more in the US than in MOldova - it is a question of feelings towards your new friends. You are allowed to bring two bottles of spirits to Moldova without paying any import taxes. If you will be confrontated from some of the airport staff, donīt hesitate to push back their unfriendlieness. Visa at airport: I already wrote it several times: have one passport photo with you, fill out the applying for visa and 5 minutes later you will have it. Costs are $60 or equivalent to Euro. Hiring a car: ensata: you donīt need to do it and if you will have seen the socalled streets in the countryside you will be glad, if you donīt need to do. There are two kinds of busses in Kishinew: maxitaxi, called marchutka, with costs of 3-4 lei Normal mass busses, often defect, stinking, very cheap, very dirty - a whole shit. Taxi inside Kishinew will ask for 20-25 lei for one-way-ride. Airlines: best choice is Hungarian MALEV, then change in Budapest for Carpathian Aitlines, which indeed uses turboprop machines. Everytime a funny event to sit in such a small box called airplane :-) Translation costs: $10 per hour is much too much. Approximately 2-3 Dollars are normal. Moral: the imagination of sexual moral is for sure different between you in the US and in Moldova. Eastern european girls are more open and faster for sexual activity. It took me always maximum two dates for having sexual intercourse. This nothing bad, it is normal. To describe sex as part of a discussion about morality, I can definitly say, that the socalled moral is all, but not high in Moldova. Will also travel back to Moldova again in the beginning of July. WT Worldtraveller Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/26/2004 8:44:29 AM   Musicman, I just read about the father of your girl. If he is working in St. Petersburg, than the chance is quite high, that he has to do it in an illegal status like tenthousends of moldovan workers also working in Russia (mostly in the sphere of building houses). Their salary is very low and often they are cheated by the russian firms. But be sure, that this family will spent a lot of money to prepare all kind of foods for you. And this can take half of the monthly budget. If I was or am in such situations (being invited privatly in the countryside) in the end I give usually EUR 50,- for "the support of younger children" or so on. They nearly always need the money, but they would nver accept that gift, if you will hand it over to your girlīs father as a financial support for him. He would feel blamed. WT tradman Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/26/2004 10:22:35 AM   2 or 3 dates with a moldavian girl, world? only half an hour with a western girl.....not everyone is of the same moral fibre, I have no reason to think she does not like sex, just that she wishes for commitment first, I was not suggesting to Ensat not to bring whiskey, but I brought a gameboy with me for her daughter and was charged $100 import tax, again I agree, visa process easy and yes I flew with Hungarian-malev, lol at turborpop...I would disagree with world on one point, I want my girl to remain as much herself as possible and have simple values, I would not encourage western female morality by overdoing the present, cost should not be a factor, only thought. agree with you aout the buses, I had to hold my nose, I sat at the front and wondered why everyone was passing me money, till I realised I was meant to give it to the bus driver:)))) About paying $10 for translation, these girls spent 3 or 4 hours with me a day to keep me company while my girl was working, so I did not begrudge the hourly rate when I used them, they were trustworthy and became friends. Musicman Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/26/2004 11:30:15 AM   WT, so you would suggest I give them a gift of $50 or so, but say it is a gift to support the children? Should I give it to someone other than my lady's father, maybe her mother or to her? I was going to bring gifts from USA for her family, but she sweetly talked me out of it. I'm still planning to buy some nice wine in Chisinau for our trip in the village. Too bad a know nothing about fine wine... :\ tradman Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/26/2004 1:59:48 PM   Ensata, I am not short of testosterone and the other 3 Russian girls slept with me on the first night, but it is so nice to get to know each other first and still have that to look forward to, she has done me a favour by refusing me jetmba. Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/27/2004 8:45:02 AM   trad - I'm sure you can find western girls to sleep with you in a half hour. As far as I know no one keeps records and you might find a very willing girl. You might even be a stud for all I know (I certainly don't know you) so if you're looking for bragging rights - I guess its up to you. But I have to agree with WorldTraveler that Moldovan girls are a little faster. Good or bad (I make no judgement here) its part of the culture. Fortunately or unfortunately (depending on your outlook) they seem to think it is expected of them from Moldovan men and also from Westerners. There are strange little tidbits of morality differences between the cultures - such as your mention (or perhaps it was ensata's) that your girl would not even enter a hotel. While that seems to harken back to a more moral and innocent time in our past, and perhaps it does in theirs too, it is still behavior that not even the most modest western girl would consider. A western girl might meet you in a hotel lobby even if she has no intention of EVER sleeping with you. In some ways I wonder if the Moldovan is exhibiting that behavior in order to show YOU that she has no intention of sleeping with you right off the bat - as she fears that you might expect. They want romance and commitment and some beleif that this encounter will really provide for her a difference in her life - not just sex. But if you provide those first three things to their satisfaction they are certainly willing to provide the latter. Like anyone they don't want to just be used by someone who will be gone tomorrow never to return. Another tidbit - you mentioned she slept in the same bed as you - but that you did not have any sexual relations. Don't you find that a bit unusual by western standards? Would a girl from our own more innocent past have been willing to sleep in the same bed with you. Not on your life. But for the first week anyway - mine did too, in my hotel room - with her mothers blessing. This thought is getting long - I will write more later. jetmba. Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/27/2004 8:51:04 AM   There is as much anticipation from a Russian woman meeting a western man as we have when we meet them. They are as aware of the culture differences and they are as wary of any ulterior motives. No one wants to be made the fool. And every Russian girl knows of some guy who visited or wants to visit just for sex. They may be more sexualy liberated - but they don't want to be used. And frankly its one of the few bargaining chips they have to attract the guy they seek who might give them a better life. jetmba. Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/27/2004 8:52:28 AM   Oh and ensata - thanks for remembering me. It was probably my condom story - I'm thinking. Kind of hard to forget that one. jetmba. Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/27/2004 9:00:14 AM   A secret to bringing anything electronic into Moldova - don't have it wrapped or in a box. Bring it as if it is your personal belonging. I brought a CD player, a cassette player, a video camera, a Polaroid camera, a digital camera - and probably a few similar things i can't recall right now. The only thing that raises questions were all the CDs I brought along. But they were in a CD wallet (most of them anyway) which the officer looked at and let me go. tradman Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/27/2004 10:50:17 AM   Thanks Jet...I agree to a degree. I think Fsu girls make more willing sex partners, westerners are just easier(no bragging intended) of course she is using it as a bargaining chip, thats what girls did in the west many moons ago. I know I will be sleeping with her in Bucharest next week. I am sorry if I painted a picture of a saint. Of course they expect a man to be a man, I did not say that I didn't attempt to have sex with her:)) She wouldn't kiss me for 2 days, but when she did it was great, and I have no worries that she doesn't enjoy sex...as to sleeping in the same bed, for the first 3 nights she went home, it was only when I had 2 nights left and I wanted to spend as much time with her as possible that she relented and stayed. There was only 1 bed, otherwise she would have stayed in another bedroom... I must also mention that I know it was the time of the month for her, although she doesn't know that I know. I think she was a little embarrassed about it. My main point was that it is somewhat refreshing to get to know someone first. jetmba. Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/27/2004 4:39:33 PM   The monthly visitor (and I'm not talking about the meter-reader) was also my girls reason for waiting. We discussed it later. jetmba. Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/27/2004 4:42:13 PM   So trad - how many women did you meet on this trip to Moldova. Pardon me if you wrote it elsewhere . I've been away a while. If you have it all detailed (your trip I mean) tell me which thread and I will look there so you don't have to repeat yourself. tradman Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/27/2004 5:06:14 PM   I only went to meet one girl in Moldova Jet, I had been corresponding with about 3 from Chisinau, but I did not tell the other two I was in their city, I thought it disrespectful to visit more that 1 at a time, however, had I not like my girl, then maybe I would have made contact with the other two, but can't say for sure, as situation never arose, this was the 4th girl I had met from FSU, althought the other 3 were lovely, that spark was missing Your Reply: Your name:   New Registration Password:   Forgot password?   refresh Code:   Russian brides > Main Forum > helpful advice, if travelling to Moldova
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