hello my name is jacob i will go to ukerain for 6 monthas and i like to stay in karkov for long time i like to know if it is a nice city and informtion about middele class hotel in the center or apartment for a monthas rent and any informtion about good places to go discos or nice places to meet nice girls and baside kiev and odessa and jalta is it some nice city that i can stay for long time i wiil be hapy to get any informtion i am a single man that loking for a serius reltion and meerige my e mail is jacobtafler@colombia.com
Jacob- I will reply to your post so that you won't repeat it in 6 diferent threads as you've done in the past. People that have a pleasant experience in any of those cities will tell you it's a nice city. People with bad experiences will tell you to avoid that city. If you plan on staying in Ukraine that long, I would suggest an apartment to rent for two reasons, generally they are cheaper than hotels and women don't like to be seen entering the hotels due to being mistaken for a prostitute.
Dale,
Maybe this is a question for TimH, Pitchka or Marinka...
If a russian or ukranian woman is labeled as a hooker when seen entering a hotel to visit a foreigner, what is the label they get when they're seen entering an apartment in a building frequently rented to foreigners for short periods?...Mistress, maybe?
Are these apartments owned individually and rented accordingly like condos in the the states? or are the entire buildings owned individually?
Agrees with the other people that can comment on this, but I would not discount just asking the girl you intend to visit. If there is a good flat that can be rented, she may already know the best ones to look into.
I rented a flat that is privately owned. Got it through the agency I was with and everyone in the building were either owners or renters. When my girl came over she was very comfortable there because there were no foreigners where I was (not to say she would have been uncomfortable if there were). I was the only foreigner in the building. I was only there 10 days though, and we were only there at night and the morning. I was never there during the day.
6 months? No idea where your from but you better prepare for a major lifestyle change. Good luck.
Your welcome =)
Oh ya I just remembered from a past thread you were interested in the agency I used. If you still want to know I will email the info to you. I dont know if I want to advertise them here.
I wouldn't feel uncomfortable entering an apartment. As fas as gossips, well, if it makes people feel better/happy to spread rumors then let them do it.
In Russia and Ukraine all apartments are privately owned, its hard to find a building owned individually.
Usually the agencies offer apartments rented for this purpose. In some places there are apartments that are rented only by the foreigners, thats the way the apartment owners nake their living, its their business. Of course the prices for foreigners will be higher, because they charge per night. For example, monthly rental fee for two room apartment is around 200$. If you will tell the owners that this apartment is for the foreigner, they will ask from 400$ and up to unlimited ;-)
Thats an average apartment.Nothing fancy. For foreigners it will cost 20-30$ per night. Thats why some ladies prefer to rent apartments themselves and save lots of money for their men ;-)
As for being labeled as a hooker...In fact it happens a lot in small provincial cities where people know each other and as soon as neighbours see a girl with foreigner-the house will know about it. But in big cities no ne cares where she goes and who goes with her.
Well I live in Lugansk, which is not a small city after all, and I live in many-storied building, and I know people who live in it, and they know me. And when a friend of mine comes to me, whom they don't know comes to me, they always ask her where she is going, to which flat, and if I'm not at home they don't allow her to enter the house, and make her wait for me. The elderly women are really curious, and they always want to know what is happening in the house they live in. So they care much about who lives, and what life he has. They know that I don't have noise parties and I always talk with them, and respect them, so we don't have any problems with each other.
Yep, there are several Tatyana's in Vitebsk. But now that yours happens to be Tatyana, is her birthday 10/24/1977?
(Homer Simpson: Urge to kill....rising)
:-)
By the way, this site lists several girls that are with agencies that advertise on several different sites. Many that are on this site are not exclusive to it.