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	Create New Topic   My Posts   My forum buddies   Invite friends   Private messages Russian brides > Main Forum > No disrespect, BUT.... Author Post slydoug Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 3/14/2002 9:26:44 PM   I mean no disrespect to this site or any of the girls with this question. How do we know if the letter we write is actually being responded to by the girl we write and not a site representative? and, are our letters being screened or edited by anyone before they are viewed by the recipiant? I am concerned only because of privacy reasons. po7 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 3/15/2002 9:59:33 PM   I also have this question - I use an agency in the US which forwards electronic messages to ladies in Russia and charges me a fee to send and receive. The Russian agencies receive a payment from the US agency for each letter message - how do I know if the message I am getting is from the lady I sent it to or from someone else in Russia? Pepe28 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 3/16/2002 7:05:47 AM   If your worried about being scammed by the girl or writing to or by one of the agencies. Then you should remember that no russian girl would ever ask you for money, if she does then she(or who ever is replying to your letter) might be a scammer. Agency scams are harder to detect, but you can always write to the girl by postal mail or just phone her so you have a good idea that she is real. To be certain you can use another service from other agencies which sends flowers to the girl but also takes a photo of the girl when she recieves the flowers you sent her. They then send you the photo to you which proves that she is real. If you write to a girl by postal mail then enclose a self address envelope with the postage paided so she can reply to you. If you learn to speak some Russian then you can speak to her by phone without a translator. Understanding Russia and Russian culture will help you understand that Russia is a great country because the people in Russia are a great people. olegnay Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 3/16/2002 8:13:00 AM   Dating-ru.com is the interface between you and an agency. Eleview runs this business since 1996. The whole idea was to provide clients with protection against the scam. Starting with own offices in St Petersburg and Ekaterinburg, where each girl was screened when she submitted her profile personally our system grew to have a partner agency almost in every city of Former Soviet Union. We have special team that reviews each agency when they apply to post their member profiles to dating-ru.com. if any of the agency or girl is noticed in the fraud actions, they are removed, and money spent for mail forwarding are refunded to the clients. We have 24X7 customer service center that can react very fast on your request. And as Pepe28 said we can take photograph at the moment of delivery. Eleview operate Service Network Flamingo (SNF) http://ww.russianervice.com – flower and gift delivery, mail-forwarding service in Russia and Former Soviet Union. It is independent organization from marriage agencies. Basically dating-ru mail forwarding is handled by SNF. At dating-ru.com you have a chance to write first introduction letters and receive answers free of charge to any lady. So, this is your choice how to continue communication with the Lady whose answer you liked, via dating-ru.com, SNF, first class mail, express mail telephone… We do not ask for money when answer is arrived for you as some other sites do. Agency is getting paid for letter/answer delivery only for eligible letters. Never sent money, or provide any material support, until you know her very well, and she has removed her profile from dating sites. Does she need English classes? Money for operating, doctor visit, purchase of something?? Do it via SNF, we will pay directly for her, so you have total control where money are spent. Privacy issue. We do not screen your first letters. It is done automatically, but we have special filtering system to catch empty, abusive emails and send it for review. If translation is ordered , then letter is reviewed by interpreter too. Review is done by administrators who check only body of the email and do not see your address details. We review letters received from the agencies and girls the same ways. If it looks like a scam, or generic email we start investigating that lady or agency. But, it is your whole responsibility to be careful. We are mail gateway not an investigation agency. Another thing that you have to remember: Not only you can be a target of the scam, but Russian Ladies too. I hope I answered your questions. slydoug Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 3/17/2002 12:03:56 AM   you were VERY good with your responses and I thank you. You were also very quick as well, it only took a couple days for me to see the responses considering all the messages you have to reply to. Again, Thanks dennis Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 3/25/2002 3:11:37 PM   Dear Olga i send two letters to the same girl but from a differend sender and i got exactly the same response letter how is this possible and i also did not got any responce on my questions only a standert bla bla bla can you explane me this . thank you in advance Olga Moderator send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 3/29/2002 4:07:16 AM   hello dennis! Please contact me directly at service@dating-ru.com and I'll check it with the lady or with her agency. olegnay Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 3/29/2002 12:09:45 PM   Dennis, I think she is not interested in you then, and she is not good to continue any correspondence. IT IS WHY we have FREE first letter answer delivery. if you see that her answer is no good, do not write to her. and yes you should report to Olga in this case. so we can investigate. what is happening there. sometimes, the following happiness. she gets a number of letters. her English is not good. she has one prewritten letter and send it to every body. again, I think it is her lost only. nobody will write to here again. I just want to ask you ALL do not be paranoid about somebody is trying to cheat you here. www.dating-ru.com team is here to help you. dennis Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 4/7/2002 5:33:30 AM   thank you olga,i am not paranoid i just wonder still i think your site is exellent! one eye Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 7/26/2002 4:07:11 PM   Your answer to Dennis is unsatisfactory. I also received unresponsive answers and other comments to my initial letters which indicated that my specific letter was not read by that person. Then I got one negative response thrown in to make it look real. Of course, now you theives want $10.00 per letter. Take a walk. I'll go down to the strip joint and find a beautiful Russian dancer from Brooklyn who'll do anything I say for much less money, time and effort. Take a walk, One eye Pepe28 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 7/27/2002 9:02:08 AM   One eye you seem to have no respect for the Russian people or Russian women for that matter. Talking to foreign women requires a lot patience and time. If you go to strip joints then the problem is clear. The problem is with you and not the dating agency because they do not offer you the sad services you require. Olga Moderator send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 7/29/2002 2:10:21 AM   This is for one eye.First of all we are not theives.It is clearly stated on the site that the cost of the message is 10$. If you didnt like it then why did you start using our services? You are not satisfied with the answers you got? But the first answers are free, and nobody forced you to pay your 10$.Moreover, if you are not going to spend your time and efforts( I am not talking about money now, I can understand when people dont want to waste money on search of their lifepartner...but I cant understand those who dont want to spend their efforts on this process)what made you begin this process? People like you use our services,start playing games here ( they'd better play those games in strip joints) and after that thay blame the company and Russian girls that thay are theives ? Does it makes any sence? gary496 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/6/2002 8:18:16 PM   Here's a question for the moderators - For those like me who are honest and sincere, and only wish to be a good husband for a Russian lady and good father for our children, how can we tell if the lady is honest and sincere as well, and not just looking for a green card? I don't mean to imply that most RW are not honest and sincere, and I don't really believe that at all. In fact, I'm sure it's a small percentage. But, there are dishonest people in any country, and like I said, how can you tell? Certainly you know you are in trouble if the RW asks for money in the second letter (duh!), but I have heard of other cases where the man even went to Russia to meet her (and sleep with her), arranged for her to come to the US and get married, and then she just took the money for her trip and dumped him! So, is there some magic formula we can use to figure this out? I'm just looking for helpful hints. Olga Moderator send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/7/2002 6:58:48 AM   well.. if there was some magic formula for figuring those things out, many things in life would be much easier.Mind reading machine was not cretaed also so far...So the only way to figure out whats going on between you and your lady is to be more attentive. Sometimes when men tell their stories about how they were deceived by dishonest RW, I start thinking:<<<Its so evident that she was going to use you. Were you blind not to see that?If you were so stupid yourself to miss lots of important signs, whom do you blame now?>>> Some people can say: but a lady can pretend to be loving and honest, and make a man beleive her , and then poor man wants to marry her...I dont beleive in things like that also. I am agree, that its very easy to deceive somebody by correspondence,but I dont beleive that when they had a personal meeting with those ladies, men didnt see any signs that this must be a deception. Moreover, fiancee visa paperwork takes lots of time, 6 months or so, its enough time to understand her real intentions.(I am not talking about cases when men make a proposal and start arranging trips after 10 messages sent and one 3 days personal meeting. We are taking about normal communication proceess that tales some months, that assumes that people really got to know each other).So what I am trying to say is: one who wants to be deceived, will be deceived for sure.I strongly beleive that one adult person always can understand what the other adult person is doing. If he is not blind. Very often foreign men become like that. They write to young models who are 20-30 years younger, they swallow all the lies that those models feed them, and after then they yell that they were deceived.Thats what I see in the agency very often.Men permit that themselves.You are quite right that there are dishonest people everywhere, and nobody can ensure you that you will not one of them. It doesnt mean that one must be suspicious to every RW who is writing to him. It just means that when your heart is ful of love( or whatever it is), try to keep your mind operating ;-))))))))) gary496 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/7/2002 8:43:05 PM   Olga - Thanks again for your thoughtful answer. In the US we have the sayings "people believe what they want to believe" and "love is blind". Hmmm, maybe we should say "lust is blind"? ;-) Do you have any sayings like that in Russia? Olga Moderator send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/9/2002 3:03:09 AM   there is a same saying in Russia-love is blind. And there is an other one right for this topic. To say it literarily it sounds like "love works in mysterious ways"( but word per word translation from Russian sounds like: Love is a wicked thing, you can fall in love even with a goat" ;-))))) gary496 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/9/2002 9:39:38 AM   So, maybe an American man could fall in love even with Baba Yaga! monolith Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/13/2002 10:22:28 AM   Fall in love with a goat....... hey there are some cute goats around you know!!!! Your Reply: Your name:   New Registration Password:   Forgot password?   refresh Code:   Russian brides > Main Forum > No disrespect, BUT....
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