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	Create New Topic   My Posts   My forum buddies   Invite friends   Private messages Russian brides > Main Forum > living and working in Russia Author Post disastronaut Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/2/2004 1:43:25 AM   I am an American citizen, and I want to live and work in Russia. My girlfriend lives in Saint Petersburg, and she invited me to live with her in her flat. (She was interested in coming to America for a visit, to meet with my family and to experience American life, but she was denied a visa from our friend's at the U.S. consulate). My question: How does one become a citizen of Russia? Any advice would be apreciated. t49 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/2/2004 2:49:15 AM   contact the nearest Russian embassy or consulate. I'm sure that there are at least a few Yanks already in St. Pete ( there are over 10,000 in Moscow ) Why not become a rep for an american company.At least that would help you to qualify for a business visa. wessman Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/2/2004 11:52:37 PM   Just for the record, the reason women of foreign countries will never get to travel to America alone. American women have very little problem traveling abroad, so why is it unreasonable for woman of Russia or any other European country not allowed a visa to the states? There is an immigration law that is very versatile though seldom used but the foreign consulates are very aware of it. Form I-485 Application to Register Permanent Residence or to Adjust Status It is this law that goes with this form which by the way allows any man the power to marry any foreign woman on American soil and keep her and her children here with out fear of deportation. If her child or children are not here she can have them brought here from her native country with some stipulations. So no foreign Government will let a female come to America on anything but a Fiancé visa. The best way is to fly her to Toronto on a big holiday and then go to Toronto and bring her over for the day to shop. Just met her at the casino coming over for a few hours to shop after you clear customs then haul ass home to city hall use her passport to get an ID card and then a marriage license and there you are. Married baby no lawyers only $942.00 start to finish! mike1234 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/3/2004 1:58:41 AM   I dont't know how but this is rather extraordinary ...to wish to become a citizen of Russia. sanchopanza Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/3/2004 5:35:32 AM   I don't know anything about this, so I can freely express an unbiased opinion. 1) You can probably live in Russia and work for an employer outside Russia ...(?) 2) Many countries distinguish between 'resident' and 'citizen'... 3) You should probably look into rules about dual citizenship... 4) Have you considered how you would feel, if you were to apply for a visa to visit USA in the future? crashnsplash Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/3/2004 7:08:36 PM   After reading your post Dis, the burning question in my mind is, why was your girlfriend denied a visa??? disastronaut Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/5/2004 1:41:20 PM   Thanks all, for your input. Crash, they would not explain to her why she can't get a visa. She had an 8:30 am appointment with a consular, she arrived at the consulate at 8 am, waited over four hours, because EVERYONE had an 8:30 appointment. They didn't even look at all of her documents, including my affidavit of support, my employment records, etc. They saw her for 2 minutes, and they walked away from her as she asked them, "why?" she was denied the visa. It was a very embarrassing situation for her, and her pride was hurt. She also developed a bad image of America from this experience ( and so have I). I am embarrassed that these assholes at the United States consulate in Saint Petersburg represent my country. Buckeyeman Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/5/2004 6:26:23 PM   Dis, it probably has to do with new information that came to light over her life or situation. I recommend hiring an attorney or calling your congressman. Dont know if it will do any good, but worth a try Thunderdome Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/5/2004 6:39:19 PM   Oh really? I'll tell you what I would do. - First I'd check on her, by means of a hired agency. Let her come absolutely clean, and get those details for you to study, and see what might be bothering the authoroties. Also, maybe some hidden/unknown details might bother you, dunno. - Say she's got a clean slate, then I would do my homework first, at home. Then I'd go over, for a VISIT Dis (you moron!), not to relocation, and have a chat with the relevant persons in that embassay/consulate. Because, and excuse my pun, I would take her denial personal, and I dam well would use all my weight to go & see those making the desicions/interviews, if only for her to stand a fair chance. Ever thought of that Dis? Buckeyeman Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/5/2004 8:03:20 PM   Good point, TD, and there are plenty of 'russian detectives' on the web you can use. Just type in that above quote into google and look. I used a background check on my girl long before I visited her, and I got back the clean slate....Whew, was all I could say then! rdoggy Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/5/2004 9:07:18 PM   Buckeye, Care to share who you used for the background check? And would they check on a Moldovan citizen? (deleted by moderator) Buckeyeman Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/5/2004 9:17:12 PM   Rdoggy, just sent you a private email.... rdoggy Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/5/2004 10:56:55 PM   Thanks Buckeye. ron Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/6/2004 12:09:52 AM   "she was denied the visa. It was a very embarrassing situation for her, and her pride was hurt. She also developed a bad image of America from this experience" That isn't just the us embassy, all immigration and visa offices work that way, some let you wait for months before they send it back, always without the reason. (the Russian consulate in The Hague was at least friendly enough to mention not to staple it (as that would be sufficient grounds)) disastronaut Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/6/2004 1:52:22 AM   Thunder, I spent a month with her and her family in June, and I have been writing to her for about 8 months now. I met her through fiance.com. She has a wonderful, generous, upper-class family, and she has a clean slate. Her family seems to be good, respected citizens. That's why I'm pissed off at the situation. disastronaut Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/6/2004 1:58:26 AM   And when I go back in October, I will (politely) speak with the consulate about this situation. She was very surprised that she didn't get the visa, even after I told her how difficult I heard it was to obtain. She had all of the best reasons to return to Russia, ie: her own flat, a young child, a good job at the railroad, etc... disastronaut Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/6/2004 2:03:38 AM   I really wouldn't mind relocating. In actuality, I would like to be with her and her family. She only wanted to visit with my family, to get acquainted with my mother (She has written to her, also). SO, I think my questions have been answered. Thanks everyone. Ptichka Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/6/2004 2:30:04 AM   I don't know how it is about the visa, but sometimes people who sign the documents make mistakes in the last names, and if the last name is not written the way it is in the ukrainian passport then the person is just denied. This may be either when last names in Russian are translated into Ukrainian or English. My great grandfather was applying for the passport, the girl who was signing them out made just a mistake in 1 letter (and the country didn't want to change the passport) and my great grandfather wasn't able to proof that he is the son of his parents, just because there was a difference in 1 letter. ron Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/6/2004 4:38:16 AM   Ptichka's remark about doing the transcription right is a very important one (not just for passport and visa). I know someone who has done some volunteer work for refugees, if on different papers there are different names you are seen either as different persons or a lyer/(lie-er/someone who tells a lie). If done wrong the first time than stick to it, always use the same transcription. I was thinking get your birth certificate legally translated, but then i thought that that would be different from country to country so you could still run into problems. p.s. some English help please. a person who tell lies is called a .........? disastronaut i suppose you want a job there, but i was thinking what kind of job can one get there? The only one i can think of is be a manager, even for IT professionals i see not that much options. Maybe Ptichka can enlighten me a bit. Buckeyeman Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/6/2004 8:02:48 AM   rdoggy, any luck with the background check? It takes about three or four days for the guy to do his work. If you want a more in depth look at your girl, do a search for russian detectives. There are some who can do a real, deep digging into anyone over there... Your Reply: Your name:   New Registration Password:   Forgot password?   refresh Code:   Russian brides > Main Forum > living and working in Russia
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