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	Create New Topic   My Posts   My forum buddies   Invite friends   Private messages Russian brides > Main Forum > Economics in the FSU Author Post scottlf Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/3/2004 12:29:15 PM   Just ran across this site, and found some very interesting information. It is basically an index of economic freedom based on countries. http://www.heritage.org/research/features/index/countries.ht ml At this point, almost all of the former Soviet Union countries are still considered "Mostly Unfree" or "Repressed". In order, the mostly free countries are listed as below: Lithunia Latvia In order, the mostly unfree countries are listed as below: Moldova Russia Ukraine The only former FSU country listed as being economically repressed is Belarus. It's interesting that Estonia is listed as an economically free country. Seems to follow the bulk of where these women are from. The summary on Ukraine was noteworthy. Any comments, Ptichka? Ukraine’s political system is gripped by maneuvering to succeed President Leonid Kuchma, who has ruled since 1995. The March 2002 parliamentary elections did not lead to the formation of a majority coalition, and the opposition remains divided between the center–right and left. Ukraine has become embroiled in corruption scandals. President Kuchma has been implicated in scandals involving the disappearance and death of Hrihory Gongadze, an investigative journalist, as well as the surreptitious taping of conversations in his office. Former Prime Minister Pavlo Lazarenko has been indicted for money laundering and corruption in both the United States and Switzerland. Ukraine depends almost entirely on energy imports from Russia, and the Kremlin has been using this dependence to gain political influence. However, there has been moderate progress on economic reforms, including land reform, price liberalization, and reducing barriers to trade, and tax reform is expected in 2003. Rising industrial outputs and falling inflation also have contributed to the recent improvement in GDP growth. Most Western observers are hoping for the formation of a pro-reform cabinet following presidential elections in 2004. Ukraine has expressed an interest in joining the European Union and has been an active member of the NATO Partnership for Peace program. In May 2002, it announced that it planned to move away from its position of neutrality and intends to apply formally to join NATO. Ukraine’s monetary policy score is 1 point better this year. As a result, its overall score is 0.10 point better this year. dreamfinder Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/3/2004 2:35:42 PM   It is not by chance that Russia stands by Ukraine - Paul Klebnikov (editor of Forbes Russia) was shot dead in Moscow less than a month ago (researching "crime-ridden, oft-murderous worlds of business and politics" as said by steve Forbes)! wessman Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/3/2004 6:55:03 PM   I'm so glad I live in America where nothing like this can happen. I could not imagine what would happen here if we had rampant corruption, or my god a corrupt politician or even say, I dread to say a corrupt President. "Let me make one thing perfectly clear" crashnsplash Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/3/2004 7:06:24 PM   Look at what Russia is doing to that oil company, Yukos. There basically strangling that company into submission just beacause they want it for themselves.I find that to be very strange and disturbing. In my personal opinion Putin needs to be replaced and I don't see that happening anytime soon. Media is becoming more and more less free to report and say things as they are in reality. Personally I didn't like it at all when we were stopped by the police and all they were interested in was how much money we could give them to let us pass. Russia is a very beautiful country but I think the Kremlin would like to see everyone repressed and under their control the way it used to be.. Ptichka Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/3/2004 7:11:05 PM   And what do you wish from the President who is ex-KGB worker??? I think that I'm not mistaken, and Putin worked there for many years... crashnsplash Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/3/2004 7:19:26 PM   You are very correct Ptichka. I would hope that Russia would go into another rebellion if it comes to what its starting to go back too KR Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/3/2004 8:02:48 PM   All very interesting! My impressions, from being well away from Moscow, is that the 'real' Russia is on the verge of an economic boom! The pieces are all there or in process. But, I am an historian and financial analyst, so I know that a big, expensive, and corrupt government can quash economic expansion by fiat. There certainly is a danger of that happening in the Russian Federation. I am anxious to see how things develop over the next five years... Buckeyeman Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/3/2004 8:33:57 PM   Crash, I never got stopped once on my trip. And this was in Rostov, known for corruption. I just blend better than others, I guess :-)) Knowing some russian never hurt either. Did you find customs to be a breeze? I showed them the passport (USA) and they just let me through without a second glance, going and coming back...I was ready for anything, but it was so easy. Makes me bolder for my return trip in early december while we wait for her visa. KR, as a recent returnee from Russia, and speaking with a lot of Russians , both young and old, Russia is not on the verge of an economic boom, per say. The reality of it is without proper infrastructure, non-corrupt leadership, and the general lack of idealism associated with good economic times, it will be a long time coming before the Russian Bear rears its head as a global economic powerhouse. Ptichka Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/4/2004 4:08:00 AM   Buckeyeman Russia is not to have the economic boom, but Moscow does. There are actually 2 countries in Russia, Moscow and other Russia. And Russians say that for themselves... I know that not people are the same, but my opinion is based on what we saw in Rostov region, where my parents spent much time as they were selling different things there, I think that if people stopped drinking so much (and they really do drink so much, without any food) they would have a better life, but again, there was a department of a bank in one small village, the majority of people worked there, the bank was closed, almost the whole was left without any work at all....as there are no other opportunities for work. OK, there is a police departament, in which only 2 people. There is no hospital, but a doctor lives there and he cures everything....so I don't think that at least that village will have an economic boom very soon, and there are many many such villages in Russia. wessman Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/4/2004 10:57:36 AM   Ptichka, It is sort of sad, I mean really sad that whole towns have to suffer like this, we have this in our country too Ptichka, children starving, young adults that can not get an education because they are too poor. We have whole towns that are depressed economically like the one you are talking of, believe me America does not shine from sea to sea. I won’t trade her in but she needs some work.. There is much sadness and grief not just there in your region, here too. You are right!! It is the drinking; and many will say no, but I work with families here where the alcohol has destroyed everyone and every thing. I did want to say to you that I have noticed some good things about you through your words. One of which is your great reserve of self discipline, I know you see and know way more here that what you could tell. wess Ptichka Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/4/2004 11:19:36 AM   Wess thank you for sharing my point of view, here not many people would say that this point of view is correct, and that they are not drinking much and so on and so forth. I know that the USA is not the paradize...how??? I have a very good friend there and she told me many things, though she lives in a very good city, with nice people around, caring husband. And also I do watch the news, follow what is happening in the world, and thanks to my dad who knows so much about history of different countries, I know many things as well:) crashnsplash Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/4/2004 11:35:26 AM   Buck, we got stopped in traffic but I was in the back seat with my fiance. Our driver got taken into this little booth at the street corner by a cop that couldnt be older than 20, he looked very very young. When our driver came back he told us what happened and I found out it is a common occurance there. Customs was no problem at all, but when I was leaving Russia me and my fiance were kissing and hugging and we really didn't want to let each other go. During this I noticed an officer at the gate watching. When I went to pass through he took my passport and pulled me to the side for questioning. I didn't understand a word he said and I could sense some hostility with him. My translator came to my rescue and said something I didnt understand, but he did let me pass. That was about the only problem I encountered. wessman Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/4/2004 11:56:55 AM   Ptichka, please tell me about your name is the p silent or is the t silent, how is it said, I know nothing of the languages, I was reading the other threads and I know it means birdie, maybe little bird, so with my imagination I was thinking that in some form your name is like chicka, chicha, chic, sort of the universal word for girl, derived from chick the baby bird. Little baby gilr birdie. Ptichka Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/4/2004 12:08:32 PM   Wess, in my nick name Ptichka all the letters shold be pronounced, there are no silent letters. In fact in Russian there are no silent letters, just some letters make the sound of other letters softer or harder, but their influence is also very clear:) And Ptichka is just a pet name for a bird (Ptica), and the little bird is called Ptenchik (pet name for Ptenec - the full form of the word). wessman Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/4/2004 12:31:41 PM   Great thank you, as you wrote Ptenchik the little bird, see at the end of Ptenchik it is chik in english when a baby bicd is born they are called chicks or a single bird a chick in spanish the young girl is called chica and here in the states we say hey she is one hot chick if you go out with her take your asbestos suit you will need it. So chik, chick, chic is universal for bird and girl. Thank you for the lesson, I will have to work on that Pt combination sound, that is not used here. Neonred Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/4/2004 1:50:42 PM   Wess Ptichka My girl in Russia calls me her "little Ptichka". I knew what it meant, but now I am wondering if it is a compliment. I'm finding myself looking in the mirror a lot now! wessman Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/4/2004 4:25:15 PM   Ptichka I think she is saying to you "my little girl friend" the little baby chick is always idealized as sweet, cuddly, fragile, innocent, so let me guess you are 22, young, little, 5 foot 1inch in height, about 106 lbs, maybe petite and very feminine which is mis-construed as fragile maybe an Aries or a Leo friendly and a dark haired and attractive. I'm getting the libra thing going on! Ptichka Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/4/2004 4:56:23 PM   Wess if you tried to describe me you're completely wrong:) I'm about 5 feet 9 inch in height, about 125 lbs, I'm Capricorn, and my hair is brown with a little bit of red. wessman Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/4/2004 5:55:07 PM   I sure was. So much for my the little bird theory huh? Well I've got a pretty good visual of you now. When you see your friend and you ask her why she calls you her little Ptichka let me know cause now I am very curios too. Can you speak english as well as you compose. I apologize for being so curious, I just can't help it. Wess Buckeyeman Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/4/2004 6:00:53 PM   Ptichka, You misunderstood me. It was I that said russia is NOT on the verge of economic boom, but perhaps Moscow is, that I am not as aware of. My fiance lives in Rostov region, and since visiting her not three weeks ago, I am well aware of the hardships there. My fiance works 13 hour days for 150 bucks a month. But not for long! She quits in two weeks to work on english and getting ready for her big move here! :-))))))))))))) Your Reply: Your name:   New Registration Password:   Forgot password?   refresh Code:   Russian brides > Main Forum > Economics in the FSU
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