I heard just the other day on some news talk program on the radio that somewhere a judge overturned some pre nups. Apparantly she took him to court to get the money and one the case. She had become physically disabled and the husband divorced her. So the principle has been set. Watch out!
TimH,
Come now...where is the logic to sentencing a man to eternal singlehood just because he wants to protect his family assets?
Prenups that protect both partners are everywhere and all over the place.
In fact, designing a fair prenup that protects and provides for both parties is the best way to keep it within the 'ironclad' status.
I'll send you a copy of mind if you want to leave the oor open to information.
Are we now doing "The Greatest Hits of Fiance.com" or Fiance.com reruns?
Usually those sorts of things happen when there is a contract dispute or the players are getting old and decrepit! We have to give our fellow forum members fresh up-to-date biting edge NEW material, the kind of stuff that can only be written TODAY!
..... like me referencing a simple webpage and writing one ridiculous correction after another complete with mathematical figures until I finally got it right the third time.....
On second thought - hey lets go into that archives. There's got to be something good there....
This is rediculous. EVERYONE WHO GETS MARRIED IS ACCEPTING A DEFAULT PRENUP! That's what marriage is. I have been watching pitchka post for a while on different topics. This one I will chime in on.
No way around it kids. You get married civily then you have accepted the governments default prenup. All that a person is doing is saying they do not agree with the default laws and rules that are there in place if you do not mke your own. (Which pitchka stated she wanted to avoid)
In fact it's adding to ramonce by saying.. the money does not matter I am in this for the person.
Also, there is no reason to protect the poor partner. I enter a marriage to benfit myself and that other person. I do not enter a marriage to benefit that person after I leave.
Tim is frankly just not educated that if he has ever been married he simply acceted the default prenup of his gorvenment. There is no way of avoiding it. You either specify what will happen or you allow some one to make it up for you. Ina prenup you can also sepcify that marriage can not be divorced exept for cases of provable abuse or infidelity.
Anyone who says prenups are bad does not know anything about the reality of the situation.
Also, if I don't post and some one thinks they actually can defend not getting a prenup email me tonyfennell@mail.ru or tony@theblackbeltbody.com and I'll come back to help people who's minds obviously lack the mental capacity to understand this.
I realize you guys defend pitchka like a godess... ok whatever. Do what you guys gotta do, but seriously she's wrong all the time and in fact I have used a lotof her comments in my book "love without limits". One another thread I read was concerning her and her guy friends. Holy god... Kinda pissed me off (Dont; worry I'll comment i needed) She speaks about being in the moment and having no rules on this one. sorry dear. You get 2 choices #1 you make the rules #2 the government tells you how to live. If you wanna get married you do not have another option. so! 1 or 2? make your choice.
It's not stating that the marriage will fail to ask for a prenup. What it does do is allow people to define the rules governing their marriage instead of just accepting the governments rules which most people don't understand anyway. Also, if anything it makes divorce harder and less likely. It strengthens a marriage and for the poor one... if they truely intend to stay forever then there should not be any hesitation is saying I am in this for you and not the money.
Frankl7, I am 26 very attractive with a perfect body and I only make about $40,000 USD a year. I am moving to Poltava to give American wages to Ukrainian people. My wages are insane in comaprison to The typical ukrainian. If a girl wants to be with me she with me and I share eveything 50-50... but if she wants to leave or break it off she leaves with exactly what she came with... not an item or penny more. In fact my Natalia said she would give me complete control of everything becaus she trusts me and it has only made our relationship stronger. Also if I cheat or if I am abusive and I am convicted then she gets 70% of all savings. I forgot that, but no alimony ever and otherwise I am the husband an dthe head of house. It's my family.
wessman, most my fiends aren't getting married or the demand a prenup. Simple as that. It's an ever increasing trend as Feminists trick more men into think there is something noble about destroy the family unit. A prenup is manditory for all mariages, but people are given the choice to write their own or be given a REALLy unfair one. Also, I have been communicating for my Ukrainian prenup. Ukrainian laws about seperation are not fair to me either. I Seiously do not feel the woman should get anything unless she contributes to the marriage with equal funds without working for me. That is unless I am unfaithful or abusive.. Her part is she enters marriage trusting I will never do that, but being protected if I do. My friends, good looking guys by the way, are trying to end the trend of old guys going for 18 year olds in Ukraine. I have a network of thousands of students. None of us will get maried without prenups an dthe only girls who have issues are ones in it for the cash. Ukraine has a better chance of finding a woman proud to be a wife and mother. Thats who we look fo and the prenup I have is a instant pass or fail test of that.
I'm not necessarily casting a vote FOR pre-nup agreements. And I do have to agree, at least in part, with the commentary which suggests that the mere existence of a pre-nup is like taking your wife to a cocktail party and introducing her as "My future ex-wife Svetlana." But I can't help but wonder if they are easily dismissed by those with little to loose ?
25 years of very hard work and a lot of risk taking which pays off can easily lead to a bank account with several million dollars. The possibility of tossing half of it away could be a daunting prospect, whether to a American woman or someone from the FSU.
I think I'm on the fence on this issue. How do you feel about a pre-nup with a "sunset" provision ? i.e. the pre-nup is void in 10 years.