Wow Wess there is a lot of good information in there. I appreciate your help, it will come in useful in both cases. Visiting and email. I still tend to think though that email is really a product of a visit (and some socials) rather than emails prompting a visit. But who knows - love is a spin of the wheel. you never know which fishing line you have in the water will catch the fish! Each is as good as the other - whatever works I say.
The sex section was particularly interesting. To be honest I think it applies to many western situations as well. However you can see that the agressive behaviour of western women would negate much of the romantic aspect. Just to be clear, as much as I like an unexpected roll in the hay, it is far more enjoyable (and I don't mean on a physical level) when it is romantic and it is ecstatic when you love that woman.
Now I just have to find that woman to be ecstatic with :) :)
Iz, Wess should have warned you about not mentioning the name of the book here, let alone devoting a thread about it. LOL He was hand slapped by Olga earlier!
but he's a kinky bastid - he actually likes that ;-))
He even prefers it with that book though - mind you, if it's as big as some guy's dictionary he might succumb from a good whack with it :)
No figgy pudding for you dude, guess it was not obvious to you why I was writing you at your personal e-mail address. even when I stated I could not discuss this here. There is no advertising here on the forum. I am not sure if they will get really mad at me for you posting this thread about Elena's E-Book, How to Marry A Beautiful Russian Woman Like Me as long as we do not advertise Skype the worldwide free telephone conference service. Notice it says how to marry not have sex with!
Love by the way should not be approached as a spin of the wheel, if you wait on luck you will get screwed, some guys go fishing to just chill out and drink beer, when I go I target the fish I want to catch and then do everything I can do to better my chances of landing my catch. Love is not a mystic alignment of the stars and planets; it is the coming together of two like hearts and then some hard work. I think love and sex go hand in hand so if you can not find a woman to love and have sex here what kind of girl do you think you will find in Russia the ones you will dump shortly after you have your way. Once again since women in Russia value a genuine hard working man why not build yourself a loving and bountiful relationship with one so when you get there you will know what you are getting. Russian women are smarter than they are here as a whole, I say rational thinking goes like this, why not meet a beautiful woman that you can have all the sex you want for the rest of your life with rather than go to FSU for sex for free. I mean sex for free in Russia is about 4 grand for a two week stay is that really free. So once again I am just voicing my principals you can do your thing, just a thought!
Firstly I didn't know the situation regarding the ebook on this forum. Now I know and it won't happen again.
Secondly Wess have you actually read and digested anything that I have said in any of the strings? I am starting to become irritated with these assumptions you keep making about me. I appreciate English is not your 1st language but try reading a couple times and then just for luck read again will you. I am not going to defend myself to you there is no need. I am human not an angel. I have had casual sex in my life but it is not my prefered course of action. I have many loving relationships in my life and I know the difference between the two and I know which I prefer. Let's see how you mangle that.
Another thing love is absolutely a spin of the wheel. If you have the secret to being able to plan that one out with a result every time my hat is off to you. It is absolutely impossible to predict or plan for with precision. It is something of a hit or miss thing unless perhaps you are Tom Cruise or something then maybe there is an automatic edge.
I agree you can not make love happen. Meeting someone to have a relationship might be luck, fate, or destiny, compatibility is something else, but love is the working to build and sustain that emotional bond. Two Like hearts is what I said, the meeting of two like hearts and then considerable work! Yes I have read what you have said and your writing this thread is no big deal, I was making light of it. I was not trying to put you in a position to defend yourself it seems to me that a lot of the guys that write here limit their thinking, "hey I will go to FSU have some pot luck and if I meet the one great, if not I can get laid, and if not the sights will be great." All I am saying is try what she says in her book and you might be pleasantly surprised, you might just find your soul mate. I was not passing some sort of judgment on you Steve so please do not take it personal.
I was replying to this (I still tend to think though that email is really a product of a visit (and some socials) rather than emails prompting a visit.) I think, just my opinion now that if we select the right woman from here, write letters, meaningful letters, and make phone calls we can win the heart of the most beautiful and promising women on this site. We do not have to settle here. I think writing letters prompt a visit for sure, only a very small percent here are scammers, most of the woman here are truly looking for a soulmate. Best of luck on your quest!
Ok, no problem Wess. I am sure your heart is in the right place and I know you mean well.
"I still tend to think though that email is really a product of a visit (and some socials) rather than emails prompting a visit."
There seem to be 2 schools of thought about this and I have no idea which is correct or even if there is a correct answer. It is going to be up to the individual experience. However, there seem to be far more people here who tend to favor the quote than the alternative. It is best to be prepared with as much ammunition as you can possibly carry though, to tip things your way. Specific information is incredibly important.
Example:
I was teaching a class in Malaysia. In the morning I set it up for theory then the afternoon was practical. There was a really cute female tech called Choo and I always used to base myself at her bench because we were always laughing about something. It was all just fun and I was enjoying myself. This went on and off for maybe 2 weeks or so with me giving advice and flying off wherever I was needed. However I made 2 big mistakes that I wasn't aware of until later. Imagine my surprise when she wrote me an email about 1 year later. She wanted to know if I was interested in her. I was completely shocked, not to mention the fact that she was MARRIED! I was just messing around and trying to make the learning experience fun for everyone. But I was being a complete idiot. If you touch someone in Chinese culture, even casually, like to shake hands, and that person is female, you just made an advance!! Just to make it worse I kept calling her Choo. People there do not have a 1st or last name you can call them whichever of their names you choose. Choo means pig in Chinese!! I didn't know and you would think I would have had a cultural class before I went but no nothing. I was on my own. To complicate it even more. I had Chinese friends there who were nowhere near as traditional and none of this stuff mattered. My 2 best friends were Dolly Ooi and Siew Kee Wong. Dolly!! Yes Dolly, strange but true.
So forewarned is forearmed. I understand this very well. that is where that book is useful.
Also although I am new to this forum I have been tinkering with this since 1998. Just haven't followed through with anything. Now things are very different.
Like Dennis Miller has said several times when poepl wonder why he-s still married after almost 20 years: "...it's up to both of you to turn marital sex into a never ending string of one night stands.."
Taken from Wess..
"I think, just my opinion now that if we select the right woman from here, write letters, meaningful letters, and make phone calls we can win the heart of the most beautiful and promising women on this site. We do not have to settle here. I think writing letters prompt a visit for sure." .
I did and I will be married to her in the begnning of Feb.
=)
It will be four trips halfway around the world spending in all about 2 months living with eachother, countless phonecalls, emails, flowers, English classes and many, many thousands of dollars spent. But be sure there is no dollar figure on finding your soulmate.
Well I hope things heat up for you soon and hope the book gives you an edge! It works for me. The girl in Moldova is requesting my presence for the New Year!
this has been mentioned a while back I think but how do the members think about trying to sort a page where everyone could post photo's etc etc......might make for interesting viewing......especially for the disguise artists lurking!!!!
Glad@UK, u r right! The alias aliens, and speaking of them have you heard from, oh you know who and his/her alter ego and nine friends I can not mention!!
wess:
it seems our regular Karma Chameleon is shedding another skin!!....although I doubt it will be long before he/she/it reappears with yet another alter-ego.