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	Create New Topic   My Posts   My forum buddies   Invite friends   Private messages Russian brides > Main Forum > SCAM Author Post firstknight Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/16/2004 5:42:23 AM   Hey, Just Found a lady on this site that is featured on a blacklist of Known Scammers. So if any members on this site are corresponding with her BEWARE! The ladies ID is 40820 the the URL where you can find this lady is as follow:- freepersonals ru/black.php?PHPSESSID=f7121a2c5310c2d3105fde7e4556403a&&&p age=7 Please take my advise on stop all correspomdence with her. Thunderdome Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/16/2004 12:56:41 PM   Hey, First, you just say that because you know I've got a weak spot for blondes in a too short skirt who's life's ambition is dancing, listening to music and watching movies. She even says she's modest, faithful and trustful - that means she's as safe as Fort Knockers ;-)))) olegnay Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/16/2004 1:00:49 PM   she is from agency in Penza. so we will check if she is real. we are putting her on hold for now. we have discussed this issue a lot already. you can put anybody on a black list. ... interesting black list. created totally to bring traffic to Anastasia and some other banner network affiliate programs. also, there is no any facts that that lady is a scam. somebody said that penza-studi4 is scam agency without any facts. we are investigating. Olga will report tomorrow. Fist, please send such reports to customer service first before start accusing anybody in the open forum. GLTALLTOAD Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/16/2004 2:24:04 PM   First, Who apopinted you F.D.S.C. (Foreign Dating Scammer Catcher)? Can't you see the risks associated with making such a blatant accusation about someone you know absolutely nothing about? You have not met her, you have not talked to her and chances are that she has not even responded to your letters, let alone tried to scam YOU. WHAT IF YOU'RE WRONG??? What will you use to wipe the egg off of your face? What will you do to restore damage done to the lady's reputation? I suspect nothing....Just another fsu bimbo that deserves to be in the scammers list for not being interested in you, right? Give it a rest, for pete's sake. If you're so desperate for getting publically announced credit for catching a scammer, make your reports directly to fiance.com administrators and ask for a public acknowledgement. Then the rest of us will give your well deserved tribute of gratitude for being our personal scammer protector. Ssshhheeeeshhhh....(rolling eyes) toad danny3777 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/16/2004 4:46:16 PM   Greetings Thunderdome, wondered where you'd been hanging out! In response to this thread I wouldn't credit freepersonals with being the world's leading authority on blacklists, they only started their blacklist recently. Because this ladies profile has been removed from fiance.com and the above link does not work I do not know which lady you are talking about nor what her supposed crime is. This said, freepersonals has a policy that no lady should ever ask for money and if indeed, an agency in Penza has posted her profile on freepersonals and then asked guys to pay for correspondence then the agency is at fault for posting her there, not the lady at fault and under freepersonals policy, an agency asking for correspondence expenses warrants a blacklisting. To repeat, I don't know what this ladies alleged crime is but if she were a serial scammer, I believe she'd be on other blacklists and not just freepersonals, a free site frequented by many amateurs who probably wouldn't recognise a serial scammer even if they tripped over her! Just my 2 cents worth! jmoluv Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/16/2004 6:49:03 PM   olegnay, i do know for a fact from my experience with studio 4 in penza is that the lady that i was writing back and forth to for several months when i very first joined here kept mentioning that she could speak no english . but she did mention that i should help her and pay for excellerated english courses that were offered by her agency for 250 dollars. almost none of the ladies speak english or so they claim on that site in penza. how convenient. if you look up that particular site you will see that they offer a menu for men to pay for their ladies english lessons depending on how many weeks you want to pay for. what a crock of shit. you can also pay extra for extra photos. through their site but not fiances. that is where i know now but didnt know then about canned letters. i thought it was just a communication problem. hey, there just making a living, right? all of their women i feel are hand picked are very carefully photographed. GLTALLTOAD Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/16/2004 7:01:45 PM   Martin, On freepersonals, the scammers profile have a copy the letter they supposedly sent to their marks asking for money. In this case, such letter or other incriminating evidence is patently ABSENT. Only the name of the agency that posted her name on the list. firstknight has absolutely no proof this lady is a scammer, other than the fact that someone decided she is for some mysterious undisclosed reason and put her on that one black list. I see egg yokes starting to rot in firstknight's nostrils and on his cheeks. Oleg & Olga How about being much stricter with people who jump the gun to quickly to call someone a scammer? toad shaggy47435 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/17/2004 2:32:40 AM   Careful what you wish for toad! It may come true! Jumping the gun seems to be a pass time here! danny3777 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/17/2004 2:38:02 AM   GL, As it seems we agree, freepersonals is not the world's leading authority on blacklists, a guy shouts 'scam' and they post without evidence it seems. Very amateurish! From what jmoluv says above though, it does sound mighty 'crook'. I've seen that scenario many a time, buy English lessons etc. USD250 are bl00dy expensive English lessons, I would never pay for such for a lady until after such time as a metting and subsequent relationship established and even then, I would expect to be given the opportunity to volunteer for such and not expect a 'pimping' agency to force their overpriced product down my throat. firstknight Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/17/2004 5:29:35 AM   Toad.....She replied to all my letters.. She is a scammer l am sure of this, just as sure as l am of you being a idiot!!! firstknight Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/17/2004 5:36:16 AM   Sorry for the broken link: Try this link and then proceed to page 7 on the blacklist menu: http://freepersonals.ru/index.php Olga Moderator send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/17/2004 8:42:49 AM   dear firstknight please understand that when you send a feedback asking us to investigate we can't tell you results immideately. we need some time to contact agency and to investigate. also understand that there is a time difference. now about this lady. I reviewed her letters and orders history. she never asked anybody for money or english classes. We have scanned copy of her passport with address record, so we can prove that she is real and that she lives in Penza. Her agency in Penza says that she didn't scam anybody. I sent an official request to freepersonals asking them to provide evidence that she is scamer or contact info of person who was scammed by her. as you noticed there is no explanation next to her photo at their black list. I'll let everybody know when they reply danny3777 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/17/2004 1:11:48 PM   GL, In fairness 'the jury is still out', whilst there is every indication that the defendant (she) will be found not guilty perhaps, to avoid egg on more than one face, one should wait for the final verdict before passing judgement. This said, I wouldn't hold my breath for that verdict, the admin at freepersonals seems slow on a good day so it could be quite some time in coming. GLTALLTOAD Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/17/2004 1:36:43 PM   Martin, I inhale and exale comfortable with every breath I take knowing I will never be accused of hurting anyone's reputation. Everyone who's been scammed by any FSU woman is mostly responsible for their own loss. Period. You send money to someone you have never met in real life and you are asking for it. Ask and you shall recieve. Period. During this search process, I've learnt that among the gazillion cultural value differences between east and west (US), the mere act of sending money to strangers is sinonymous of slightly less than plain idiocy and worthy of disrespect and sustained fleecing...while in the west we call it an act of 'charitable compassion' Despite all the warnings available everywhere to western men, they keep doing.....and what's worse, they expect the eastern woman to RESPECT and appreciate them for it with western values perspectives. Does that make sense to anyone? This is a simple concept to understand... Is it the pig's fault for being a pig....or the one who feeds it and keeps it in such messy living conditions? toad danny3777 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/17/2004 1:56:40 PM   GL, The British have a reputation for being 'tight' with their money, did you ever read the story about the American who sent his 'fiance' something like USD20,000 for her to ship her personal effects, bed included, across to the USA with her. The jerk actually posted asking anyone if there was a problem with flights from Russia, I can't recall for how long he'd been waiting at the airport for her and he just simply couldn't understand why she hadn't arrived! Reading these blacklists becomes so frustrating and 90% of it is guy after guy who meet a lady on Yahoo Personals or similar international websites and these guys, most of them anyway, send hundreds or thousands of dollars before engaging their brain. Yes, you're right, they deserve everything they get but there are so many idiots out there, the scam business has to be the biggest growth industry within the FSU and is likely to continue that way for many years to come. Nisse Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/17/2004 3:51:06 PM   I think it's feckin amazing that anyone would even look twice at that's girl that's halfnude on an internet datingsite...how seriuos is that?? nasfan6 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/17/2004 10:09:42 PM   Gee, if you girl named Anna sends you pictures of Rebecca Stamos as her own, would that be a hint of a scam? Or maybe I just blue a date with Rebecca Stamos because she was using a psuedonym? Thunderdome Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/18/2004 5:27:50 AM   Nisse, I looked at her THREE times - how serious is a twat? And Nasfan, it would seem to me you lost out - make up to her immediately and send her a plane, never mind bothering with a measly $20K. Martin, you lie - 20K??? What was his name - Bill Gaves? ;-)) idiotdetector Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/18/2004 6:03:37 AM   firstknight- you are in breach of copyright unclebuck Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/18/2004 7:54:48 AM   Martin, I think that you British have an edge on us Yanks in that you had to do business with the rest of the world while we were still growing up! Your not tight with money just careful. Americans think that if we pay in advance it gives us an edge but in the rest of the world if you offer in advance it is taken as an invitation to ask for more. Some countries actually think it is ok to take advantage of Americans. So many of us are not aware that the rules change with the home field advantage. “If there is a dought, there is no dought” is the best rule in the game. I learned that from a friend in England and it works. 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