hello everyone, i am knew at this stuff, need a little advice. i have been writing this girl from chisinau. two months now, about 6 letters from her. she has not asked for anything, she does ask me a lot of questions, which i have anwsered.she says that age dose not matter, she is 27 and i am 46. dose she just want to get out of there, i live in orlando florida. also a girl from chisinau wrote to me first, same age 26, we have written 4 letters to each other in 4 weeks. says she has always dreamed about getting married to a americian. what do you all think, and what have you heard about girls from chisinau in general. thanks for the help.
Poor economics, bad social standards, half of the population working abroad to supply their families - the best ground for scam and not honest intentions.
Of course she wants to get out of there otherwise she would not write to you. Always dreamed getting married to an American ... I don't think so-:) She has to justify why she's looking and why she's writing to you and she can't say to you face that she wants to get out of there just as so you can't say to her face that you're looking for a juicy twentyseven year old. As long as she doesn't ask for money and continues to behave legit, make you mind fast and go see her (them).
A few people have posted about girls from Moldova, you can search the threads (jetmba was one of them). My impression is that girls from Moldova are no more or less risky than girls from other FSU countries.
Felix I don't normally post here because of all the negative things being said and the bitching between some members.
I met a wonderful woman from Chisinau. She is also younger then me, she is 31 and I'm 46. My opinion is that FSU women are very mature for there age. I also agree with wtrav02 statement that she can't admit to you about wanting to leave. As long as this isn't her first priority. Everyone wants to better their situation in life. Her first priority should be to find happiness with her other half. Of course scammers are everywhere not only in FSU, so use your own judgement and be careful. Yes, I believe you can have the kind of relationship you are looking for but it will require much work and honest from both sides, just as a relationship with any other woman would require. If this are going well I also suggest a visit. I've been to Chisinau twice but only in the winter, I hear the summer is very nice.
Best of luck and I hope you find the happiness I have.
Felix
There is no doubt, not all but some FSU women are perfectly happy with a twenty year age gap.I think being able to offer these woman a better life, gets you a foot in the door but no guarantee of a long term relationship. That will be up to you.
A big thing to consider is children. If they dont have them, they will want them. How is this going to effect your present life style and family?
If all looks good
Proceed with caution and see what happens.
Martin I would say it all depends on a persons integrity. I can't speak for all woman in Chisinau, but my fiance has just as much integrity as I do. We would both rather do without than have to steal it from someone.
there are scammers in every country including the west, to slate one country or one city is utter rubbish. If everyone in one city is a scammer, then they will have trouble scamming each other all the time. Who will work in the restaurants, drive the buses, take away the rubbish, if everyone is a scammer. Naive comment based on prejudice
John,
Yes, it does depend on ones integrity thus it was wrong of one individual to typecast all Moldovians as being the same, perhaps judging others by his own sorry standards.
Tradman,
Agree with what you say, let's put it this way, we are not disagreeing with each other :))
I didn't think you were Martin, I have been to Moldova quite a few times and always found the people there to have integrity. I am sure there are scammers, but there are scammers here in the uk
> have been writing this girl from chisinau. two months now, about 6 letters from her. she has not asked for anything, she does ask me a lot of questions,<
Glad to give a word of advice, I recently posted an answer to a similar question in another thread. Felix 48, the question isn't whether she's a "scammer" or whether to stereo-type Moldovan women as such. The question is whether "she's" actually the girl you think you are writing to pictured in the profile, or for that matter, "she" could even be a "he." The chances of her being a fake profile rise correspondingly to her rating on the "babe-omoter."
As I wrote in the previous thread, "she" hasn't asked you for anything" because you are already being scammed through a commission structure tied directly to your correspondence. We just finished exposing the Nikolaev agency which admin has supposedly dropped. I wrote about all the blatantly obvious fake letters I'd received and pointed out a just posted example of a highly suspect listing. MartinUk then ran with the ball and exposed that profile is already being listed on scam blacklists.
I have been telling this forum and fiance admin that the Moldova and Nikolaev agencies are dirty for some time. In fact, when I first joined this site there was a big broo-ha I had with the Moldova agency on both ladies I was writing. After multiple letters in which I asked for contact info without success, I asked fiance admin to verify her profile. Afterwards I received the predictable letter about how "suspicious I was" and of course she was so offended that she didn't want to meet me...yada-yada-yada.... In another case, the Moldova agency was caught red-handed committing fraud yet they were allowed to continue their relationship with fiance com.
Fiance com admin never expelled the Moldova agency, but they finally pulled the plug on Nikolaev. Who knows how long they are going to let Moldova go. Felix 48, try asking for a phone number she can be reached at, notice I did not say "her phone number." This is to avoid the obvious loophole where they will undoubtedly respond "she doesn't have a phone." Which you are expected to swallow and leave it at that. In reality almost all of the have not only a home phone, but also a mobile. In the extremely rare instance where she didn't have one, any legit girl with half a brain cell would say 'but you can reach me at here at this time." Also, say that "you will be able to visit them very soon, how about in two weeks"
6 letters in 2 months doesn't exactly display too much enthusiasm on her part, even a slow starter is a letter a week, not a letter every 10 days, week and a half, as in this scenario.
Again, I spent a lot of time in Moldova and the agency staff that my wife initially went through, I could all now count as friends. I met loads of western men out there actually meeting their girls through this agency. You can only get scammed if you are gullible enough to get scammed.
I met 6 girls through this site, some I met in Holland, cyprus, Egypt and Turkey, all were real, all were lovely girls, they didn't ask for money and they didn't want to leave their countries.
The USA and the UK are not paradises that people lust after to coming to.
If you are a fat middle aged western man and you really think a 25 year old babe is interested in you, then you are the fool for being scammed. For every scammer to succeed, they need a self deluded fool on the end of the hook.
Agreed: without the idiots who send money and thereby encourage this behavior, scammers wouldn't exist. Without the idiots, there wouldn't be scammers. The problem for the rest of us is the enormous time drain it causes having to sort through thousands of profiles, wasting hours on end writing intro letters, etc..
tradman said "... and they didn't want to leave their countries" then why they dated you? why didn't they stick to the local dating crowd?
if you want to believe in illusions, fine, but don't fill us with that crap please!
the truth is all of these women are looking overseas because first and foremost they want to leave from their countries. I am not saying they don't like their countries, but each have their own reasons to want to leave.
also said: "The USA and the UK are not paradises that people lust after to coming to"
Since you're native, I'll take your point about theUK. However, the USA in comparison to any FSU country IS a PARADISE! to me the USA is a paradise in comparison to any other country, but that is my subjective point of view.
I disagree strongly wtrav. Your society is even more a fools paradise than the uk. materialisms, women and men in each others role's, only chasing the dollar. You think people in poor countries lust after our lifestyle, maybe the naive do. When they arrive they find a nation of individual, no love of family, no simple pleasures.
Maybe I am different, but I did not meet any Soviet girls that could not put bread on their table or feed themselves, only those that couldn't find a good man in their country.
My wife would happily go back to Moldova tomorrow and my friend and his wife are moving to the Ukraine.
They move to our countries because we are the main breadwinners and they want children, I would have a hard time supporting a family in Moldova, I only speak English. It is incredibly conceited of you to think women will marry a foreigner just to come to your lovely country.
You judge your country on how you were brought up as a child, but the lack of morality and and understanding of why we are here on this earth eludes most of your country and most of mine.
. I hear talk on here of how to import a Russian woman, it's just a buy and sell culture, your country amd my country are woefully undereducated in comparison with most of the former soviet union.
I will wager that more than 50% of the men on this site can't attract a young attractive woman in their own country, thats why most of you are unsuccessful. You occasionally tempt one back to your country, then after seeing your country and how you measure up to the rest of your countrymen, they leave.
tradman...I couldn't agree more. Lena has asked if I would think about possibly opening a marriage agency in her town (yea, right) so we could live in Ukraine instead of America. When I asked why she did not look for a local man, she told me she has, and if she could find one that did not drink, went to work everyday and actually felt uncomfortable if he didn't,and would treat her son like his own...then she would gladly accept him. She indicated that in her experiance that most of the men like that already have wives.
tradman,
#1 i'm not unsuccessful, the exact opposite-:)
#2 i measure up pretty good against my fellow countrymen and the euros-:)
#3 i never mentioned women leave FSU in search of american dollars, british pounds or euros, aussie dollars and so on, i said they leave each for their own reasons. You contradict yourself by saying that your wife did not want to leave her country, but regardless she left. She wanted to leave because she couldn't find a man who would measure up to her, whatever the reason, she wanted to leave, she had her reasons (not necessarily money). That's all I was saying. If a woman doesn't want to leave, she doesn't put ads on the net, she rather sticks with the locals. My wife has Russian friends who live here, they would all rather live in their countries ... of course, but the conditions there are a bunch of crap, their husbands have jobs and businesses here, they have jobs too, they stay here.
#4 Have you lived in FSU? go live on a ukrainian or moldovan salary (if they pay you whenever they wish) and benefits (or no benefits to be precise) for a year, then come back and tell me you loved it, then I will admit i was wrong.
#5 My wife's father had a heart attack and died in Kharkov, Ukraine a short while ago. It happened in a public place, none gave a shit, their health care system is crap, they didn't do anythting to save him. I know if he was in america, he would not have died. You see, in this materialistic society of uneducated ignorants, life is valued, which is a good thing, wouldn't you say so?
I ve lived in far east Ukraine for the past 16 months, it's been a dream of mine to live here since my first visit to the FSU in Sept. 1992, and my dream is a reality, and I have absolutely no second thoughts whatsoever, do I live on a Ukraine income, no, I have a fairly good income esp. by Ukraine standards, in Ukraine many people have a diffiuclt time living on the middle Ukraine wage; but, in the US, ask anyone who lives on a Wal-Mart income if making ends-meat is difficult, esp. if they have a child. As far as the girls wanting to leave for the US, I really don't see alot of it, girls i come across talk about visiting places like Ireland, Austrailia, and New Zeland, much more that visiting the US, of course many would like to visit the US, but I snce it's really not their number one destination, they would also like to visit places in West Euro as well, as far as the medical standards here, thus far I ve had dental work done (a bridge on my lower left) total cost about 730 гна, and eye glasses, I needed reading glasses, the eye exam and glasses totaled 57 dollars, I was satisfied on eash occasion. In summary, life here is good, and I am not leaving anytime soon,