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	Create New Topic   My Posts   My forum buddies   Invite friends   Private messages Russian brides > Main Forum > Wearing shorts in Russia and Ukraine Author Post DavidUSA Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/3/2006 10:47:49 PM   For you guys who are planning or want to travel to Russia and Ukraine this summer, I have some advice. Leave the shorts at home. Even if it's going to be hot over there. The men there don't wear shorts. At least I didn't see any. If you wear them in those countries, you'll stand out like a sore thumb. My first trip to Russia was in the winter time, so shorts wasn't an issue. My second trip was to Novosibirsk in June. It was very warm there. Despite the warm temperatures, I didn't see one man with shorts on. I sweated it out in dressy pants and during my week there. I left my jeans at home. I love wearing t-shirts and cargo shorts on warm days. But that's a no-no over there. If I decide to go back, I'll make sure it's the spring or autumn only. I don't know how the guys over there can where pants year round. I'd go crazy! I guess that's just one of many cultural differences. What do you guys think about this? jetmba. Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/4/2006 7:03:47 AM   I've been to Eastern Europe six time withing the last three years and I HAVE noted that things are slowly changing. On my first five visits, I wore nearly exclusively black or dark black dress pants but I was beginning to see a few guys wear jeans and I even saw a few pairs of athletic shoes, as opposed to the black narrow tipped boot style shoes that are by far most common. My most recent trip was in July and August of 2006. I expected it to ne hot as airconditioning is still a luxury over there that can never be taken for granted in any store or restaurant(the minibusses certainly DON'T have it). I mentioned this fact to my lady before departing and lamented that I could not wear shorts as I did in America. She told me that OF COURSE I could wear shorts, that she saw them on a regualr basis on well-to-do men in Chisinau, this year more than in past years. BUT she told me - if I intended to wear shorts I would have to shave my legs! as all of the men she had seen wearing shorts had perfectly smooth legs. Like most men in America - I have never shaved my legs. I am not a bicyclist, or a marathoner or a serious swimmer, all of shom I understand shave their legs. And I didn't intend to start at his point in my life. But as it was hot - I packed the shorts anyway. Chisinau was unbearably hot, setting record temperatures, I understand, during my visit. For the first time ever, I did see several men who appeared to be native and well-to-do wearing the same sort of shorts that I had brought along. And ALL of them had, it appeared, shaved legs. So I ALSO took the plunge one night, shaving my legs only as high as would be neccessary for the shorts to expose. Turns out that the beard attachment for my Remington electric razor has an altogether different use than I ever inteded for it when I purchased it. And it worked quite well. SLOWLY Eastern Europe is changing. And shorts MAY be increasingly acceptable. But they do require additional preparation/sacrifice. 9davo Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/4/2006 7:48:46 AM   As long as they do not start to copy other degenerate western customs such as wearing torn jeans, wearing baseball caps back to front they will be alright. jetmba. Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/4/2006 9:05:06 AM   Sorry Trav: After you wrote such a nice post talking about getting back to respeceting one another etc. and writng about the subject matter at hand (a very decent, respectable and responsible post) I give you the above, which has some potential for.... commentary. I thought about this after I posted. The temptation is great but can you resist? nasfan6 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/4/2006 12:51:25 PM   I spent last July in Crimea and saw plenty of guys wearing shorts, though they may have been visitors since it is full of foreigners. jetmba. Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/4/2006 5:17:07 PM   When I went to Latvia in 2004, which is a member of the EU and NATO - I was struck by how different it was than Odessa Ukraine where I had been at the end of 2003. Ukraine, at the time of course, required a visa for entry and Latvia didn't. But Latvia seemed so much more western and there were so many guys there from EVERY European country. To them it was just a short hop and a fairly inexpensive place to visit. And the women seemed much less available as they had the unending attention of every European man there. One guy I met came every few weekends. Now you mention all the foreigners in Sevastopol, which I had been cosidering as a destination for my next trip. It seems to me that best place to go would be one where there WASN'T as many foreign guys. Molodova, I understand, will no longer require a visa for entry as of January. But Russia still does. I may just go to Russia for that reason alone. danny3777 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/4/2006 5:37:39 PM   jetmba, Go to city(s) that do not have a recognised international airport, so many a guy will go where it is convenient to go, ask of him to get a connecting flight on an FSU built aircraft, 'no way Jose' :) jetmba. Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/4/2006 6:37:42 PM   Martin: I dare say that even the nonFSU built aircraft aren't doing all that well in the Former Soviet Union, in the hands of smaller regional airlines. I believe that several Airbus planes have gone down in the last couple of years. I am always asked by friends and relatives whether or not those particular airlines are the ones I fly. So far I HAVE flown on Air Moldova six or eight times - but on no other regional airlines. danny3777 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/4/2006 7:17:14 PM   jetmba, I have worked for the airlines, behind the scenes, since the 1970's, I could tell you some stories but I won't! I have no knowledge of any Airbus's going down in FSU in recent years, never mind several of them, but I do have to note that an American will only make mention of Airbus's going down, not Boeing's going down, and I hate Airbus and particularly the most ugly flying machine ever, namely the A380, you'll never get me on the bl00dy thing, totally unsafe :) Admittedly maintenance might not be quite up to spec in FSU but my attitude is that if it's going to happen then it's going to happen and more people get killed crossing the roads than in aeroplanes. I fly regularly on AN-24 aircraft but only recently a pilot that works for me told me that AN24's do not stay airborne for very long if they lose the power of one engine. 'Oh thanks mate' but I have still booked a further two flights on AN-24's, probably safer than travelling across Ukraine by taxi. But the bottom line is, the more guys that think like your post then the more the regional cities are open to 'he who dares, wins'! It doesn't really matter which country you're going to, indeed Moscow flights are probably the cheapest flights from USA, it's the city that counts and one needs to venture somewhere off the beaten track. danny3777 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/4/2006 7:26:51 PM   Correction, Just recalled, an Airbus A320 went down operated by, I think, Armavia, an Armenian airline. I stand corrected. gladiatorUK Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/4/2006 7:32:00 PM   Just curious Martin.....why do you hate Airbus? danny3777 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/4/2006 7:44:08 PM   Because they're French and can you imagine trying to get out of a beast of an A380 in an emergency and when god knows how many people are panicing:) Whilst on the subject of aeroplanes and to the Australian audience, Australia's first ever jet airliner, the 29th B707 off the production line in 1959 and the first ever jet airliner exported from USA shall very soon be on it's way home to Australia. Having been sitting and rotting in UK for the past 6 years it did an air test on Saturday, picture link below, and is expected to depart UK later today via Dublin and Montreal to Seattle where it will pair up with John Travolta's 'Qantas' B707 for a formation flight, via a few refuelling stops, to Sydney. http://www.jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php?id=5867744 wtrav02 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/4/2006 7:58:24 PM   I've only been to Ukr five times, that's it, so you guys have more and more recent pictures in the back of your mind of what people wear in that part of the world. I asked my wife, she said just as in hte states it is acceptable for guys to wear shorts in Ukr but not too short. I do recall in the beach in Crimea guys used to wear those swimming suits that we lost since the 70's, you know the ones that to your @@ and ass:) of course in some parts of Europe, it is not uncommon men to wear the thong, but I believe not Russia. timmy21 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/4/2006 11:06:03 PM   i ve lived in a provicial East Ukraine city the for past three yrs, and there is no problem, none what-so-ever, with guys wearing shorts, this past August the temps soared well above 100f, for 8 straight days, the hottest day was like 107f, couple this with above 90 percent humidity, this was like living in an oven. People here are going to dress what they feel comfortable in, the basic attitude is that, it's your buisness, if you want to wear shorts, no problem, wtrav02 makes a comment about guys in Crimea dressing in swimming trunks which were out of style in the US in the 70s, it's not only in Crimea, but lakes, beaches along the rivers and streams, all over this country, that's their style for most of the guys here, young and old. gladiatorUK Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/5/2006 4:23:59 AM   Martin:.....ah the french connection,perfectly understandable then!Funny how our closest neighbours invoke such loathing here in the UK.Got to agree though, on many visits to France,I guess the only thing that spoiled a lovely country was the people.:)) Mr Micawber uk Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/5/2006 6:02:24 AM   Martin Im no expert but surely Airbus is a joint venture, assembled in France, wings built UK, and other bits, It is now owned by Germans, French and a bit by Spanish ? Bae systems having wisely sold thier 20per cent recently. There is more money to be made making armaments and Airbus is a very long way from making a profit. The 1st A380 was powered by Rolls Royce trent engines (UK) although this was not mentioned on BBC ,a very large proportion of the total value of the aircraft. we are so modest :)) So its really a matter of pride for the French,it is government subsidised just the same as Renault and many other of the leading French companies, one day they will come down to earth with a bump, but not on an airbus I hope. danny3777 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/5/2006 7:42:24 AM   Mr Micawber, Yes, Airbus is supposed to be a multi national entity and as you mention the A380, guess what nationality the entire crew of the A380's inaugural flight were to be? When uproar broke out they included a solitary German into the crew, he wasn't part of the operating crew, he just sat there to make it a multi-national rather than entirely French crew. It was Airbus Industries that grounded Concorde. It was known about that an exploding tyre could penetrate the wing/fuel tank, the British Concordes were modified but Air France couldn't be bothered and lost a Concorde and circa 100 lives as a result. Thereafter Air France didn't want Concorde but if they're not going to have it then nobody is thus a quick word in the direction of Toulouse and guess what, Airbus withdrew the maintenance support that was essential to keep Concorde in the air. Xelebes Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/5/2006 7:04:15 PM   Many people in Canada (like myself) wear pants year round. I do not have a pair of shorts, except for those that I swim in. danny3777 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/5/2006 8:10:40 PM   A Boeing pilot :) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3UDCoQnXjA Mr Micawber uk Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/6/2006 5:07:06 AM   I was in RU in April sun was shining and I was wearing a light fleece over a T shirt ( and was hot ) and felt out of place as I was the only one not wearing a dead animal !! When in Moscow during the summer, high 20,s I did not see a soul wearing shorts. Here in my village we have a postman who is still working in shorts in December and I have a workmate still wearing shorts to work ( we work nights ) How times have changed in my youth shorts would have been for the beach or the young. Your Reply: Your name:   New Registration Password:   Forgot password?   refresh Code:   Russian brides > Main Forum > Wearing shorts in Russia and Ukraine
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