Just found this site and as i have returned from a recent 15 day stay in Dnepropetrovsk i feel the need to relay my own experience of ukranian women though i think russian women are similar in mentality.
I was corresponding with woman in Dnepropetrovsk for about 15 days decided to go and see her she said she would be happy to meet me. Very pretty lady age 30 no kids great .We got along great every day for first five days, then i notice she loses her temper with waitresses or waiter., for absolutely nothing of importance. Then she tries the same type of temper tantrum with Me later -"Why you not know price of taxi" she screams.- "why you not take shoes off in apartment" other expolosions from her about trivial stuff. "what time your flight go"-about 11.30 i think i reply. "you not know" she screams. trivial arguements. Super sensitive. If she is like this after 6 days i thought what is it going to be like after 6 months.ENOUGH.that was it.
i stopped in my apartment re thought my strategy PLAN B.
there is no plan B. There is No other lady i arranged to meet.So i went with interpretor to internet cafe and arranged to meet another lady from another agency called rbrides com (crap agency mostly fraud profiles) anyway i got to meet this ONE lady she actually turned up .Told her i was here on business with mining company in Krivoy Rog and she believed my story.
Did meet her every day great seemed very nice bought her food drinks everthing.Then on day 7 .she picks arguements loses temper about nothing..super sensitive.Bizzare. That was it with her too.
Did meet an American chap fom Lousiana while there. He was on his fourth vist to fsu countries.He says there is a lot of this maniacal tantrums from women there whether it be ukraine or Russia is typical BUT you can eventually find a sane woman there-about 10% chance.
My own conclusion is the men drink a lot of alcohol in Ukraine/Russia because bizzare behaviour of women drive them to do so.
My girlfriend is the same. So what! It blows over quickly. Its sort a sport for them and give them an opportunity to be a primadonna. I usually ignore it, next day they barely remember it.
I was in St. Augustine, Florida this past weekend on vacation. There was a fire at the hotel where I was staying. We got booted out at 4:30am and had to stay in a different hotel down the road. The next day, I went back to the hotel to get a few items that I forgot to take with me. A girl from Lviv, Ukraine was in charge of cleaning the rooms. She spoke English, but had rocks for brains. She showed no interest in my concern over my belongings. She had a basic, flat demeanor with no bit of warmth or charm. If someone like her wants to work in America and make the big bucks, go work on a farm and get your hands dirty, ya loser!
I was discussing the temprament of Russian women with my friend who is married to a Russian, and we agreed that they can sulk like children if they don't always get there way.
You guys were describing the lady I visited in Ukraine in 2005 and Russia 2006. I thought it was just my bad luck with tempramental women from the FSU.
Venezuelan women are hot but tempramental too. Seems the hotter they are the bitchier they can get.
Cycle......it was over 100F last couple weeks here wit high humidity and I wouldn't even come near a hottie!!!
I had same experience with Ukrainian girls but they were young( under 20) so I just figured they needed to grow up!!
All rest of girls were not temperamental...I am talking 10-15. I have heard that if you stay the course and show your will, it will diminish.
Hello guys! Your quite right - all FSU women are scammers and bad tempered bitches, so why to bother? Just stay safely at home in your blessed country and try to befriend your fat shapeless neighbour - she will be happy to sort you out when "you stay the course and show your will". Good luck!
Thanks for the kind words FSUfemale. Troll?
I'm busy following the pennant race and fantasy football. But you wouldn't have a clue about what I'm talking about.
you are a hard man Dave,
most women are temperamental are they not.
yeah these woman do have a temper, some a lot more then others, this is a Slavic race. people there have been brought up a little different then our typical spoilt up bringing we have had and not to forget our PC environment.
short temper like you experience jgreg is something none of us need, it sounds like she was showing contempt for your personality, one has to wonder want life she has walked.
what was noticeable is how some speak to persons that are there to do a service for them like waiters or waitress, i wonder if we could use this for the fist signs of showing mad cows disease, but do not forget this is a Slavic race and they do speak there mind generally.
The posters on this board mention maybe a handful of women out of hundreds of millions! Jeez, some of you have sh*#t for brains. Yeah right, maybe we can convict a whole population on the basis of the microscopic sample size you have presented.
And of course, you have no proof other than the most narrow of conjecture.
Sure women can be bitchy and irrational just as the above posters have pointed out. But does this also mean when those same male posters, who draw such broad conclusions on the basis of such pathetic evidence that it must follow that all men are unreasonable dolts! Nope.
Why don't you all just marry your right hand or maybe even marry another man!
FSUfemale
What I dont understand is you can be right bitchy all day and then still expect wild sex at night. Is this a cultural thing?
Its just that its not what Im used to. A western woman is quite the opposite.
I have a question about how you chose your username for this forum. Umm, nevermind.
Bottomline. The FSU women need to show more sensitivity and friendliness towards men who have traveled halfway around the world to meet them. The FSU women don't have to fall in love with the men, but at the very least, show them some respect during their stay. Is that too much to ask?
Its entirely likely that FSUfemale is a GENUINE FSU FEMALE.
There is another forum, associated with this one, except that it is geared toward Russian woman (and written in Russian of course). A lot of those women vist us from time to time as lurkers, and see what we have to say. How do I know this? Because they comment on our forum in their own forum. And of course many of those women speak English (certainly better than we speak Russian).
FSU females tend to be a bit sarcastic in their humor and they are fiercely protective of themselves, as a group, meaning that anytime you say something negative in this forum ABOUT FSU women, past history has shown that you are likely to receive a comment like the one above.
She's basically saying - if you don't LIKE the typical high strung nature of SOME FSUwomen - then stay home and date western cows. FSUwomen are very much aware that they tend to be in much better physical shape than their western counterparts. Its a fact that is not lost on them.
I don't think most women give a crap about pennant races or fantasy football. Since baseball has watered down the playoffs and they went on strike and took the world series away in 94 I could give a shit less. I made a promise never to walk into a major league ball park again. I used to go to at least 15-20 games a year in Chicago. I remember a buddys wife telling him on his way to his fantasy football draft, to pick up his trading cards along the way.
Typical response, Aussie calls her/It a bitch for speaking her mind. What form of tantrum is that.
David thinks they should show him respect for traveling half way around the world meeting them. Typical, here I am, you should bow to me since I'm here. Now maybe some of you guys can understand why guys fail over there.
The girl in St. Augustine had rocks for brains? She's living here and surviving here David, I doubt if you could do such in her country. She's supposed to show concern about your items, Why? See your arrogance is why you failed, these ladies were supposed to kiss your ass, get on bended knee because DavidUSA showed up to their impoverished country. Maybe you should put down your anal retention pills and you might have done better in the FSU.
Better yet, take care of your credit cards, look up this weeks IR list and take your two lovers to bed at night.
Women in America sulk and bitch and carry on when they don't get their way. Far worse than any females in the world. Majority are ungrateful, if you think they aren't think of the ones who had nothing coming into a marriage and then want it all during a divorce. Are ladies in the states are the Queens of Predators.
JGregory knows shit about the culture of the men in the FSU. I would like to really see his indepth analysis regarding the social ills and why men drink, it also is probably why men cheat over there with great regularity.
Nasfanny is now the official cheerleader spokesperson and defender of all ukranian and russian women according to his previous post here.
i agree with Jgregory and Davidusa and his observations on female personality traits of many slavic ladies i think generally the ARE ungrateful.
I remember meeting a lady in Ukraine she said i was to young for her. apparently she wanted an american man age 60 years. well of course i thought of Nasfanny naturally, But i did not know the full postal address for nasfanny at the Blue oyster Bar in sanfrancisco But hold on in there your luck might change.
The more you learn, the more you realize how much you don't know. And pro sports? Maybe it is not like pro wrestling, but in the back of my mind, it may be indirectly rigged. There is just so much money involved and human nature being what it is, I do not think it is out of the question to believe this. Perhaps it doesn't happen all the time, but it can and does happen with the refs (NBA), players (Black Sox), or the coaches (Patriots), but the notion is there even though it may be entertaining. Almost like looking for a FSU wife! Naw just kidding! LOL
Nasfan I enjoy reading your posts and getting your insights on your experiences, especially since you managed to do what most men haven't which is actually get married to a nice girl from FSU, but I have to say that it seems kind of hypocritical to me for you to say negative things about American women after attacking people on here for doing the very same thing but to Russian women. I am no great lover of North American women, it's partially why I looked for a FSU woman in the first place but there are good women here too I know. Usually they are spoken for of course. :-)
As for the girls I wrote letters to and met from Ukraine, I ran into the same things some of the other posters on this thread did. They we're hot and cold, got angry and upset about the strangest things, sulked when they didn't get their own way, and had no appreciation for how much it cost to meet them and that you we're paying for everything with them. Basically they acted like spoiled little children. I came to the conclusion that the girls I met (after spending a lot of time with them) we're also mental cases that lied a lot and saw no problem with doing it. Something I have also concluded about some girls I have written letters to for a long time there but never actually met (and didn't ever want to :-) ) They can definetly fly off the handle for absoulutly no good reason at all and I found it kind of difficult to deal with as I don't like conflicts especially with someone I like and care about. I think it just depends on how you deal with it and how bad she can be. Gemini's advice sounds good to me. I'm sure all of them will be like this to an extent (some are better than others) and you are going to have to deal with that kind of behaviour from them no matter what, especially from the younger girls.
But on the other hand I find women from North America can be just like this too. I also met other Ukrainian woman on my trip there (I've been 5 times) that seemed very normal and nice and didn't show these bad traits that I found in girls I wrote to then met and in girls that other men on here have obviously met too. So I think there has to be some Russian women out there that aren't crazy, irrational, gold diggers, they just might be a little harder to find is all.
As for why the men in Ukraine drink a lot? Who knows, I don't know enough about Russian men to even guess. Maybe they just drink a lot because they like it or maybe there is some truth to what JGregory says. After all of the crap I went through with them in the last few years I sure drink a lot more than I used to so maybe he is on to something there... :(
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