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	Create New Topic   My Posts   My forum buddies   Invite friends   Private messages Russian brides > Main Forum > Standing in line Author Post Bus Stop Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/12/2009 5:31:04 PM   I'm a new member to the forum. I have read some posts on here, some hard luck stories, and a few happy endings. I want to share my experiences with everyone here. I'm starting from the beginning of my search, with a one to two week time delay, for updating here. I don't know what the ending will be; I don't have a specific time frame by which my search will be complete or indeed over. The reason I wish to share this, is the last two weeks have been extraordinary. If Olga feels this would be better on a blog, I'll accept her advice. Bus Stop Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/13/2009 3:17:37 AM   I live in a small town, there are a few single women, but not really my type, so a friend suggested an Eastern European woman. He corresponds often with one in particular, and I made the plunge a few days after Xmas 2008. The first site I registered with has 14000 women, I thought 'good'. After a couple of days my email inbox received a lot of responses, and by and large from very desirable women at that. My profile had some lines about me, what I do, and who I'm looking for. I replied to most of these messages, and it was evident after just two more days, that the photo and profile of the person I was sending a reply to was not real. I asked a question in each of my messages, and not one question was answered. Hmmm So I tried another site, appx. 10000 women, this was the eve of New Year. I placed the same profile, and after a few days I received five messages. The profiles of these ladies were largely similar, less studio type photos, and maybe more honest, I wasn't sure at the time. The system employed on that site is to buy credits to send letters. So I thought I would attempt to send a coded reply, that might sneak through the 'watchers'. Bus Stop Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/14/2009 12:09:32 PM   From the five I replied to, I received two further responses, and from that I selected the one profile. I wrote to her, including my email address, in code. This message passed the site's systems, and later that evening I received in my own email box, a message from a real person who liked my profile. That was 4th January. We exchanged reasonably simple emails; I explained what I do, and my personal situation. She sent me some names of music tracks that she likes. Nothing too complicated. I subsequently discovered she has a computer at home, and I mentioned skype, as a way forward. I volunteered my telephone numbers, so that she could have some confidence before I rang her, if I received her number. It was a surprise then when one evening I received a call from her. Her english is excellent, she told me a few more personal details about herself. In this first week of our correspondence we had written once a day. I have deleted my profile from the site where we saw each other. She told me she has travelled to France, I live there. I have attempted to learn some Russian phrases. I thought the process of connecting to a person would be more difficult, a fortunate encounter, a lucky chance? to be continued..... Maxirat Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/14/2009 3:19:19 PM   You are going good !!! Don’t be surprised or consider this development not the norm. Most have internet connection in their homes and a lot speak English. Try and find out (without sounding like a detective) how she visited France and why etc It is not difficult or expensive for you to visit her. Don’t get to worried about learning Russian, not many of us know much and most what we do know they know in English anyway. The fact she rang you 1st does make me slightly suspicious. Just feel your way and go on your gut feelings. And remember, if it looks to good to be true – it possibly is to good to be true. Good luck Kirkland Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/14/2009 6:21:45 PM   I'd be surprised if a lady from any fsu country was agle to afford to phone you for amy length of time. In my experience this is almost unheard of. To send a text (sms) from Ukraine for example costs here hald a dollar roughly. Even if she can get one sent a 25 cents, if she sends four; you're looking at an hours wage gone. Imagine the cost of a call. Unless she's using a phone she doesn't pay for. She might have visited France while married. The fact that she mentions she visited only once might mean it is a big deal for her. I wouldn't worry too much about that, but would still be interested in how she went about it. I'd go the skype way, get her on webcam for a while. Bus Stop Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/16/2009 6:01:11 PM   Well I'll reply to the posts left, to Maxirat, you're right everything is going good. When I tell you, in fact she telephoned me from a taxi recently, I was surprised. She has explained her job, and that meant a visit to France. She has visited Spain, U.K. and also Italy several times. Without giving her personal details away, she works for a Global organisation. So to Kirkland, the above will reassure you about costs. I am reassured that it is not a problem. Skype connection works well, and we seem to pass an evening being very talkative. I will update tomorrow with more details. Bus Stop Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/17/2009 4:20:28 PM   At this time, on reflection over the first days of my new found internet date; I'm going to remark on what she has told me very recently. First she did a sort of background check on who and what I am, she has asked many searching questions on emotive subjects. She has discussed my most recent photo, profile and her own observations with her friends, she sought guidance from a 'Western' personnel officer on cultural differences. She has decided we must meet in person. She stated that she had many many messages for her at the web site, but that she had decided that I looked the most genuine. I actually feel as if I have been in some kind of job interview, stretching over a number of days! This was unusual. Far from the idea that I am the great hope of salvation from a terrible unrewarded life in a drab ex-communist state, the reality is she is fed up of Russian male attitudes. I think it highly unlikely that I can offer her anything that she does not already have access to, materially. The jaw dropper, the open mouthed gape which I have, is if our meet is successful, which will be in France, there is a possibility she will abduct me at a later time to her town, find me a job, so that we can be together. Let me just think about that, because that is a long long way from where I started out from. Two weeks, oh and a few days have gone by. I started out with some romantic notion I could pluck a girl from Eastern Europe. At the same time a woman there decided to get a man. Those are the reasons I began the post. I said "the last two weeks have been extraordinary". She is extremely pretty, very bright, tall, slim, and a girl on a mission. I'll let you know what happens. Dunromin Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/18/2009 4:47:48 AM   Quote: “which will be in France” Hmm, another “Order in” pizza or pieceofarse guy. Dude, get her address and tell her you’re coming to visit next week, if she resists, she doesn’t exist, is she agrees, go start your romance. Bus Stop Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/18/2009 6:21:39 AM   I want to reply to your post Dunromin, since I did not explain perhaps adequately for you, that she will travel to France under her own ability. I did not ask her to visit so quickly, but because of her job, she will have no problem with visa, and in fact her employer's company are providing the hotel accommodation in Paris. I am not being asked to assist in any way with her travel arrangements, nor her personal needs. Because of that I refute totally the notion that I have ordered a pizza, and I assure other readers of this post I am not a 'dude', nor a pieceofarse guy (sic). beemer18 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/18/2009 10:52:30 AM   Nothing personal bus stop....but it sounds like your story is turning more into dreams than facts. Everything you have written has happened many, many times to guys. Always in the beginning the hopes are high, maybe this is the one, only for girl to do about face and never write again, become only a letter writer, disappear when you are visiting or you realize girl is not serious. As Dun said go visit her quickly and find out what is really happening. You sound delusional for thinking this girl would kidnap you and bring you to her country....wake up, snap out of it!!!!! This FSU dating thing is like running the marathon and you are 100 meters into race and for some reason can see the finish line!!!! Long journey buddy, pull up a chair and just take a few deep breaths. VNVnation Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/18/2009 1:00:06 PM   With all due respect, Bus Stop, I would literally be amazed if this girl shows up in Paris on her own without asking you for money at some point. I've got to agree with Beemer here, this story is sounding very unrealistic. There are just too many things that sound wrong. FSU women generally want men to take the initiative; it is highly unusual for a woman to be so aggressive. It is very strange for a girl to call you first and to arrange your first meting. The woman wants to know that you are a man, that you are strong enough to make the first moves. Also, despite what your lady has told you, it seems unlikely that she has the ability to travel freely to Paris, and that her company will pay for her hotel. I have been to Russia 7 times and currently live in Odessa. I know of only a few single women who went to Europe, but it was for a very specific work assignment, and they certainly did not have the ability to go whenever they felt like it. In fact, I know a very successful businesswoman in Russia who has a French boyfriend. She has never been able to get a visa to France. And, I've got to agree again with Beemer, it is ridiculous to think that she will take you to her town and find you a job. It just doesn't work that way. I hope I'm wrong, but despite your assertion that you are a not a "dude," I can't help but think that she's setting you up for the old scam of telephoning you from the airport and telling you that she needs you to send her money immediately or she won't be able to leave the country. Dunromin Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/18/2009 5:13:17 PM   BS: There is a very long road ahead. Adman Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/18/2009 10:29:46 PM   BusStop Half of Ukraine is now living in Europe, so it is quite possible that all your girl is telling you is true. Ive met many Russians and Ukrainians that have travelled to Paris for holidays and for work. Its not unusual. I think one can be more lucky first up, before you become jadded and cynical about E/W dating. It sounds a great start and it will be interesting to hear what happens when she arrives. devilmaycare Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/19/2009 4:20:08 AM   She sounds very serious and genuine to me. No scammer is going to waste precious mobile credits phoning overseas. Hope it goes well for you. devilmaycare Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/19/2009 5:18:29 AM   Well I still think the odds are that this woman is genuine and my reasoning is this: scammers have to play the numbers game, grooming dozens of men, because only a very small percentage of "marks" will ever yield anything. So by my reconning it simply isn't economic for a scammer to spend a lot of effort (not to mention some money) calling you and grilling you about your background because they have no idea if its worth their while. Still, just be on your guard and don't send any money, and youl be fine its not as if you have anything to lose. Mondelo Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/19/2009 8:14:11 AM   When I had my connecting flight that went from Paris to Kiev last fall, the whole plane was filled with Ukrainian people returning to Ukraine from France. So to me it seems this might not be that far fetched that she is able to do this. I would just be on your guard if any "surprise" talks of money come up from her before meeting. But if she is being honest and can come to France on her own without your financial help to meet with you then why not go for it? Bus Stop Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/19/2009 2:32:37 PM   Thanks for the responses, to Beemer..If there was a chair under me to pull up, I'd be relaxed about that. There are some good ideas in what you say, yet I reiterate it isn't me driving what is happening, in this instance. It wouldn't be possible for me to up and go anywhere quickly for a week, since I work in Agriculture, and I'm reliant upon the weather to do certain tasks. This means that I haven't said I would like to visit her in the shortest time frame. She has understood what I do, and to facilitate her desire to meet me, she has booked the dates, a long weekend soon. I didn't have such expectations for this scenario to happen in this time period. She may arrive or she may not, but that will be her decision. I used the wrong word 'abduct', perhaps a better one would be entice. To VnVNation I know about other stories, I have read on scam sites, here, and in some other places. If, when, she asks for money to complete her journey I did say (to her) because of what I had read that it would lead me to believe that I was being set up. Her response was typical of someone when challenged about their capability. So I can find out in mid February, if she walks the talk......or not! But I take on board what your comments are about. Thank you Dunromin and Adman; your messages help. They help since all of this is new to me. My situation is I am a widower, my wife died almost seven years ago, yet I'm only in my mid-forties. I searched in the age group 34 to 40. With a wry smile I am expecting something to go wrong, we'll see. shaz444 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/19/2009 11:28:43 PM   I think you are lucky to have found one genuine girl, I actually send messages to girls on FSU or Anastasia-I with the ones who have videochat only!! If I have a doubt just videochat with her and ask her what ever is in your mind. Its like a guarentee. If you have more money to spend than there are a few websites with only videochats available for $3 per mintute. It depends how much you are willing to spend basically. GeminiDreams Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/20/2009 1:06:50 AM   Getting a visa to both France and Hungary were relatively simple for my now wife. If you have the money the rest is a formality. I have travelled frequently to Kiev from Europe and Dubai and the planes usually have a high percentage of Ukrainians. Whether this means she will turn up is another matter but. Bus Stop Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/4/2009 7:41:47 AM   Hi, during the last ten days or so, we have communicated every evening, often for as long as three hours at a time. She has her visa, her plane tickets. The hotel (four star) is reserved. There is even a limousine collecting her from the airport to take her to the hotel. All of the above is courtesy of her position with her employer. Just wanted to let you know. I'll update again after our weekend, that of St.Valentine's in Paris! Your Reply: Your name:   New Registration Password:   Forgot password?   refresh Code:   Russian brides > Main Forum > Standing in line
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