Alright this my thread to attempt to consolidate some of the info found in various other posts.
The goal of this thread is to get all the various sites out there that target the typical guys that frequent this forum. I'd like to accumulate first any domains/sites that I am missing and secondly public opinion on them from users who have REAL experience on these sites, whether that means they got ripped of, they got married, or they just hooked up for the weekend.
I realize a lot of this you guys may have answered elsewhere but the data is scattered about so lets make a thread so others do ask the same question over and over...
rwglobe.com -
anastasia-international.com -
AOB - I don't know what AOB stands for yet, please enlighten me.
elenasmodels.com
fiance.com
interdating.ua
mamba.ru
anastasia-international.com
I think we all can agree that Anastasia has some real beauties on their site, but they charge something like $7 an email so your first communication is going to run you nearly $15 and there is no way to tell if you are writing a real girl or someone they have locked up in a letter-writing sweat shop somewhere. They also strip out your phone number and email address from your communications with the girls. I don't like the idea of someone filtering my emails, but I guess i'll need to get used to that since I probably require a translator at this point. I definitely do not like the idea of $7.00 emails especially considering that we all know the great majority (if not all of them) are fakes.
rwglobe.com
More Realistic selection of girls. Better free options when viewing a profile as compared to the site above, though the interface is clumsy and the search could use a lot of improvement...for one, it has limited options, and for two it forgets your last search preferences even if you are logged in. The prices here are not much better than anastasia where a "token" runs you $2.99 and sending an email runs 2 tokens. Same thing to open an email, 2 tokens.
Those are the only 2 sites I have experience on so far. But does the comparison really matter if the emails that come are bogus?
Please, chime in here and add whatever I may have missed on these 2 sites and please add your comments and experiences on the other sites I have listed above. Also if I missed any good domains or sites for MEETING women (not reporting them as scammers) and you have personal success or failure with said site, please add it to the list.
myusername,
as Ukrainian who work in field of accomodation and transportation foreign visitors, I guess the problem is not in sites, problem in men heads.
If you will read scam sites, you will see 80% of scam stories had such scenario - men coressponded with very young ladies.
Last summer I accomodated one man (he looked like about 60 y.o.)
His interpreter said me he told all women he is 45 y.o.
he wanted to meet girl not older than 25 y.o.
When interpreter adviced him to meet older women (about 45) he said he dont need her advices.
another client, about 50 y.o asked me - what girl will meet him?
I said, young girl - 20-25 y.o will meet him for money...
women - 30-35 (divorced, with children) will meet him for making family and emigration (for happiness their children).
women - 35-40 (who has adult children) can meet him for making their own family.
After my words that man was very sad, he said me he dont need my advices.
You asking What are the best sites for meeting real ladies?
All sites have real ladies.
Now all sites like anastasia-international.com (anastasiaweb.com) require from women their domestic passports, ( for women with children) children birth certificate and (for divorced women) document about divorcing.
Young pretty girls receive tonns of letters from mature men every day.
And mature women receive couple letters per month.
I've met several girls through anastasia: one was an out and out pro-dater/scammer who I know took some of the other men she was seeing for many thousands of dollars of "living costs", another though was completely genuine but the problem was I got totally the wrong idea about her personality because most of our comms was via a translator (even though she spoke english reasonably well).
The irony is that I've had several women tell me (that I know though other sites as well as anastasia itself) that they actually like anastasia because from their perspective the fact that each letter is payed for means that it filters out "keyboard Romeos".
At the other end of the spectrum you have direct contact sites like Elenas where most of the women are genuine but firstly, you have to be prepared to fend off a lot of competition for the decent girls, and secondly many of the girls on there are quite sceptical about men's intentions as there are apparently a lot of time wasting men on there.
Wouldn't touch the aforementioned with a barge pole.
Even as a newbie a while ago I considered the deal with Anastasia (their advertising is ubiquitous enough to have banners on Myspace) and dismissed them as too expensive.
I can't even remember if I ever completed a profile on there but got far enough into the process for them even to this day spam me with their offers of lithe beauties
I think I will bump this post to the top every day
Could save men Thousands !!!!!!!
Well said Kherson
as Ukrainian who work in field of accomodation and transportation foreign visitors, I guess the problem is not in sites, problem in men heads.
If you will read scam sites, you will see 80% of scam stories had such scenario - men coressponded with very young ladies.
Last summer I accomodated one man (he looked like about 60 y.o.)
His interpreter said me he told all women he is 45 y.o.
he wanted to meet girl not older than 25 y.o.
When interpreter adviced him to meet older women (about 45) he said he dont need her advices.
another client, about 50 y.o asked me - what girl will meet him?
I said, young girl - 20-25 y.o will meet him for money...
women - 30-35 (divorced, with children) will meet him for making family and emigration (for happiness their children).
women - 35-40 (who has adult children) can meet him for making their own family.
After my words that man was very sad, he said me he dont need my advices.
You asking What are the best sites for meeting real ladies?
All sites have real ladies.
Now all sites like anastasia-international.com (anastasiaweb.com) require from women their domestic passports, ( for women with children) children birth certificate and (for divorced women) document about divorcing.
Young pretty girls receive tonns of letters from mature men every day.
And mature women receive couple letters per month.
Something to bear in mind, and it doesn't matter from which site he chooses to greet, if a guy is only targeting ladies in UKraine, probably because he is too lazy or too tight to get a visa for elsewhere, then Ukrainian ladies will be receiving circa 10 times the letters than ladies from other FSU countries will be receiving.
There could be two identical ladies, one in Ukraine and one, let us say, in Russia, the guy has got nigh on bugger all chance of attracting the Ukrainian lady's attention but every chance of attracting the Russian lady's attention.
I never have problems meeting girls.I dont take them shopping.Just a meal in the John Bull and a few drinks.If i really like the girl Sushi.Maybe some of you guys should meet up with me in kiev sometime.I was told this by a Ukraine man if a FSU girl drinks alcohol with you.This means shes up for sex with you and likes you.It works most love to drink
Are you inferring that Ukrainian women by default get more emails than women from Russia? I don't see why it would be harder to Travel to Russia than Ukraine. In fact I'd think one would have an easier time in Russia.
Anyways back on topic, who has actual experience from these sites:
rwglobe.com -
anastasia-international.com -
AOB - I don't know what AOB stands for yet, please enlighten me.
elenasmodels.com
fiance.com
interdating.ua
mamba.ru
Is everyone in agreement with leonfromkherson that all these sites have real women? I cant imagine that all these profiles are legit on some of the sites like anastastia. It looks to me like they took the hottest girls they could find, gave them a makeover and photoshoot, then post their profiles online so a guy thinks they are writing some overseas goddess and really they are emailing someone in a room somewhere trained to read and write responses.
If these agencies have storefronts over in Ukraine why not just walk into the agency and deal direct?
myusername...it is not the agency or site that is important...it is the girl.
It is all hit and miss and with some experience you slowly find out who is sincere or not. Usually doesn't take long to find out what girl is up to. My technique is to write for a short time and visit....that is only way to find out about girl.
Many girls are on multiple sites, so it doesn't matter about individual ones. I tend to now look toward free type sites, although that is flooded with upfront scammers.
I think age is not the overriding issue here. It is more that older men 'think' they are more desireable than they really are and money is their best trait. Problem IS in mens heads!!!
The problem in my head is that Ive taken the time to write a few girls now on a few different sites and i just feel like I am being ripped off before I even get there.
The way i look at it, yes the problem is in the Man's head(s). I mean lets take a stap back and look here at what we are being sold...
The fantasy that every man wants which is that they can pick the girl they choose, the one that is maybe 20 years younger than them, right off the Internet, know nothing of the language or culture, and get married.
Hello? Am I completely wrong in thinking this is quite impossible?
Just so you know my goals here:
I already anticipate getting scammed, or having to buy gifts in exchange for the opportunity to meet and hang out with a beautiful woman for another country. Sex involved? Great, that is even better. And marriage? Well, I'm not counting on it but surely am receptive to it.
The way I look at it is it is the cost of my fantasy.
My problem lies in getting the initial communication lines open and I dont want to pay 500 bucks to find out I am writing to some fictitious person.
So back to the original point of this thread.
What sites have you guys had success on? I'm not getting much response to that so i am guessing the answer is "none" and my best bet is to just go there and go to an agency or social or whatever and spend the money there face to face....
"I cant imagine that all these profiles are legit on some of the sites like anastastia"
Thats not what leon said, he said "all sites have genuine ladies" (which is true) do I really need to spell out the difference in meaning to you ?? :-).
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I said, young girl - 20-25 y.o will meet him for money...
women - 30-35 (divorced, with children) will meet him for making family and emigration (for happiness their children).
women - 35-40 (who has adult children) can meet him for making their own family.
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Very wise words anyway and the insights of a native always very welcome.
The cost of the visa to Russia is small beer compared with all the other costs of making the trip. It is a pain in the arse though to have to plan everything months in advance in order to allow time for visa processing, and to have go through all this registration bullshit in the city your staying in. My main objection though is that what with the end of the cold war etc its all so f****** pointless.
In spite of that though probably half of the women I've met or corresponded with seriously have been in Russia ...
The majority of westerners need no visa whatsoever for up to 90 days in Ukraine.
On the other hand most FSU countries require a visa, at cost and inconvenience, a tourist agency sponsorship voucher, at cost and inconvenience, perhaps confirmed accommodation voucher, at cost and inconvenience, registration once there, at cost and inconvenience, blah blah blah.
Oh it's so much easier to travel to Ukraine or Moldova, trouble is that all guys are thinking the same making the Ukrainians more like escort ladies rather than one on one girlfriends!
Martin, most FSU countries require a visa? Of the popular ones, only Russia does.
Problem I have with Russia is the registration and the constant hassle of police wanting to see my papers. Also, for visa it takes some advance planning.