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	Create New Topic   My Posts   My forum buddies   Invite friends   Private messages Russian brides > Main Forum > Heading to Odessa-Nikolev Next Month Author Post gordonp.gecko Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 7/21/2009 6:28:28 AM   I've met one lady I'm really interested in Odessa. Have talked on the phone as well. We've been exchanging emails and pics for about 4 months. I've been talking to a number of ladies that I'm going to meet there as well just in case. Wanna have back up plans. I'm putting together own travel, my own interpretor, and car from Odessa to Nikoleav. I'm not looking to be dating for long time for this is going to sound funny but don't have time to be trotting all over. To busy for all that. Any suggestions from the more knowledgable and more experienced crowd here? Especially Beemer Will be there for about a week. beemer18 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 7/22/2009 3:19:28 AM   TY..gordon...I'm just one of the guys with some experiences in FSU. No really right or wrongs here just my way and his way and your way. Pick and choose info here that you think is best for you and go from there. I do think it is best to concentrate on an area to become very familiar with it. Over time you will make friends there and have a 'base' to draw from and actually meet girls there NOT in agency's, though many never thought about looking for a guy from another country. What I find best is not to be thought of as a foreigner. I am of the realm of meeting multiple girls, not popular with many guys, many times I do meet all of them because no one stood out. It can happen that you meet first girl and stay with her. I take it your back ups are in Nikolaev. I'll tell you a week is not a very long time. Also, Odessa is small enough in center that it is possible to caught juggling a couple girls( happened to a friend)...stay away from popular restaurants and malls. I do use ukrainefare quite often. Try to book your taxi and apt with same company FSULover Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 7/22/2009 7:07:20 AM   If you like ONE girl enough, you should stick with her ... unless she gives you clear reasons not to stick with her after your meetings. Jumping from one branch to another will not help you accomplish anything productive, especially in a weeks time. The best girls (in my experience) need time to get used to you, and if they find out about your lack of seriousness, they will send you packing immediately. One thing that worked for me was to take a vacation with the girl (Turkey is a popular and relatively easy option) for a week to get to know each other better and to understand her personality while she was away from home and faced with many unknown and unexpected situations. However, you only have a week, and I doubt that she will say yes to that after only the first date. Good luck! But remember that the more honest and serious you are perceived, the better your chances to succeed. gecko Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 7/22/2009 8:08:15 PM   taking a girl on a vacation is exactly the wrong thing to do. if you can't enjoy each others company in a normal setting then what chance do you have. fsulover must be a girl. FSULover Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 7/22/2009 9:20:34 PM   Gecko, once again you have to attack me. What did I do to you? Why can't you share your opinion showing some decency at the same time? If I were a girl I would not be here. That is for sure. GordonP, a trip together to a neutral place helps to take the girl out of her comfort zone, thus allowing you to see her the way she might be in real life. Being within her own environment while you are in a foreign setting makes it more difficult to predict whether the girl is for real. She has more opportunities to put up an fake act within her own environment. I recommend traveling (if the girl accepts it) because it was the best way I had to see the real character of a girl. A couple of times I thought that a girl was perfect for me, but after three or four days on a short trip together to another country, I realized that I had made a very big mistake. And that happened after visiting these girls in their city a couple of times. I would have never proposed to my current fiancee if she had not accepted to spend a week in Turkey with me. However, everybody is different, so do as you please. I am only sharing my opinion based on my own experience and what worked for me. baron555 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 7/23/2009 4:35:59 PM   FSU is actually very insightful. Yes if you can't get along when she is in her comfort zone, then you won't anywhere else. But getting her, actually both of you outside of your comfort zones and seeing how you both respond to planning and pressure and then each other is a true test of how the relationship may deal with these same planning and pressures that would confront every couple in a serious relationship. For me, we two met in Kiev which was a first for both. I had done the preplanning and had read up more about where to go and what to do and she knew the local language. We had a couple of moments as described above and we survived. Mini Cooper Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 7/23/2009 5:54:45 PM   Last month I spent a week at a resort in Turkey with my girl and it was a wonderful holiday. However, when we returned to her city we rented an apartment for three days. I learned much (much) more about her when we were not "vacationing". Next month I'm returning to her and I'm planning on renting an apartment again... I have to find out if she can cook! beemer18 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 7/23/2009 7:36:51 PM   Guys, where exactly is going on a vacation or getting out of comforts zones going to really show very much. Jeez, lot of pressures in figuring whether to get up at 9 or 10 am.....or should we eat at 12 or 1.....that day trip we planned, I don't know if it is worth our time...... Vacations are like honeymoons, where things normally go very smooth....no kids to take care of( usually), no work to have to go to, no worries about bills, pressures at work.....you get the idea. Best way to know a girl is to see her in crisis, how does she react? what does she do? how does she deal with pressures. And this will only happen at.......yes, home. In relationships, toward the beginning it seems wonderful, you are right for each other, you seem to match (almost) perfectly. And since you only are with each other maybe 10 weeks a year, no troubles seem to appear. TIME is the best way to know a person, the more time the better you know them. Yet in long distance relationships its a killer. They are inverse to each other... you just hope to find a happy medium and get lucky and find the right person............... Texasdude Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 7/23/2009 11:36:30 PM   Beem...absolutely correct about seeing girl in her environment but I learned a lot about my girlfriend on vacation. One example...my flight home left 4 hours before hers. I arranged a late checkout time for her so she could relax, swim, eat or whatever until her car arrived. She refused and wanted to ride with me to the airport and wait 4 hours until her flight. It was hot and she wiped my brow with her tissues. Otherwise, she was using her tissues to wipe her tears. You are right, you hope to get lucky and I think I did....and she said yes! gecko Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 7/23/2009 11:57:54 PM   congradulations Texasdude! nasfan6 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 7/24/2009 1:50:15 AM   FSU lover, a disagreement isn't an attack. I'm in the same camp as gecko and beemer. You need to spend time in her environment. Though in some cases it will give some indications of her reactions it won't give a clear cut one, especially if she is relocating to the USA. It's a whole differnt story there. Things will be totally foreign and even at her home, these issues will not arise because of cultural and language issues she will face in a foreign land that she will not have in her home country. Early on it's fun, she's giving you an look into her culture and some personality traits. I've found overtime some guys make a wrong decision on what they called being spoiled. What I've learned with my wife is, especially in Ukrainian women they are somewhat logically emotional about certain life issues. What may seem to be spoiled or pouty is nothing more than a release for frustration you are not used to from your women at home. It took me a little time to understand this personality/cultural quality. At first to us in the West it seems like a spoiled brat syndrome. When in reality it's an expression that's difficult for her to express even for the ones who have a grasp on the English language. Spending as much time in her environment is crucial, but until you cohabitate in the place your are going to call home it only reveals a little about her character. Patience is the virtue and don't be quick to judge until she can express it in a clear cut way. FSULover Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 7/24/2009 1:58:47 AM   Beemer: Let me give you an example of how traveling together helped me: crisis situations! We were running late for the train, so we had to run across town to not miss the train. In the process of hurrying up, the handle of her suitcase broke, but we had no time to think about it at the moment. We just had to run. I did not stop hearing the complaints and what an idiot I was for breaking the suitcase during a few hours, even though I had already agreed to buy a new one. Talk about a woman who only cared about what SHE wanted. The beauty of my trips is that sooner or later we have to deal with the unexpected, because the trip may bring new experiences to both of us (like deciding what is the right time to go to dinner) and that shows the real character of the woman. Something that is easier to fake when the woman only experiences very familiar situations. With my current fiancee it worked perfectly. Tez Tours screwed up our reservations, and when we arrived to the airport in Moscow we were told that we had to wait in Moscow an extra day. We spent four hours at the airport dealing with the tour agency. During the process I played the role of the angry customer and she played the role of the cool and understanding customer. It worked excellent for us and we even got the tour agency to pay for our extra night of hotel in Moscow. Talk about working as a team. When traveling together to new places for both people, there is often one or two situations that will help test the patience of both people, and sooner or later, the true character and motivation of the girl will certainly show. Cooper: I am self-sufficient. I do not need a woman to show me that she can cook or even clean the house because I can do those things myself. That is not what matters to me in a relationship. Her character and how it matches with mine does matter. I am not looking for a house wife. I am looking for a partner in life, who helps me be happy most of the time. Cooking or cleaning for me will not change my level of happiness. Nasfan: An attack is calling me a girl or calling me an idiot (he did that in another thread) Rag'n'Bull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 7/24/2009 9:50:18 AM   FSULover, I'm not about to 'attack' you but if I, or any of us, were to write to a dozen 'suitable' ladies asking them if they would like to vacate with us in Turkey then perhaps 6 of them are likely to say "yes". On the other hand, write to those same ladies suggesting a meeting in their home environment then only perhaps 1 or 2 are likely to say "yes". What message might that convey to you FSULover? baron555 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 7/24/2009 10:58:02 AM   Funny how nas at first contradicts himself but then later has a consitent message. And I don't understand the barrage on FSU. Fellas, he's only saying that besides meeting in their environment a trip to a new place together allows both to see how they work as a team, especially if both have a hand in the planning. SM, I don't think he said that is the ONLY way to meet a woman but going on a vacation, or whatever, provides additonal insight. And yes as nas concluded, only being together over time will tell. However, as he alludes to, with international relationships, we don't have the luxury sometimes of taking our time and one must draw conclusions. So FSUs suggestions, to me, are very relevant and can be used IN ADDITION to meeting in her town. FSULover Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 7/24/2009 3:34:52 PM   I am not suggesting to talk to a girl in Internet and immediately ask her to travel with the man on vacation. I am suggesting the vacation avenue only with a girl that the man is seriously considering for a long-term relationship, especially after seeing her face-to-face in a previous opportunity (even during the same trip). If a man really likes a girl after being with her in person, because we usually lack the time to develop a relationship slowly, a trip together (in my experience) allows the man to see many things that will certainly surface in a future relationship together (good and bad). Mini Cooper Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 7/24/2009 5:18:43 PM   FSULover... "I am looking for a partner in life, who helps me be happy most of the time" Please tell me how your "partner in life" helps to make you happy? I'm curious, what is your definition of happiness? FSULover Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 7/24/2009 5:41:16 PM   Happiness is different for everybody, because everybody has different values, beliefs, and expectations. For me, like I said before, it helps to have a partner, who is supportive, understanding, and fun. Somebody I can really trust in any situation. It has nothing to do with doing chores for me, or being the hottest woman around. Does it makes sense now? That is why I always paid attention to her character, until I found the person who matched my expectations the best. So far I do not know if she likes to cook or clean, but I do not care if she does not. Land of oz Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 7/24/2009 8:03:36 PM   Another travel option that would be close is a black sea cruise. My wife tells me that right now $500 will get you a 2 week cruise. I am not sure what accommodations that is. Sometimes local accommodations are less than Western Standards which may cost more. I do not know Mini Cooper Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 7/24/2009 8:08:45 PM   FSULover, I think you are a very serious and sensitive person. I believe this because of your epic search for quality of character and your intense valuation only on the emotional aspects of a relationship. Since it's common knowledge that the elaboration of emotions is an involuntary process, of which you are only partially conscious and in control of... do you sometimes cry when you are angry? beemer18 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 7/24/2009 8:17:51 PM   FSULover....you did give a couple of good examples of seeing how a girl can react to a situation but remember you were on vacation with no other stress' having to be dealt with, in some cases, yes, it can be a large flaw in a guy's eyes. Anytime you are with a girl you do learn more about her no matter where you are. For some reason ALL of my trips I had no situations like yours FSUlover, so I didn't need to deal with crisis. Getting back to original post, gordonp has only written for 4 months and is going to visit for FIRST time, so why was this 'take a girl on a vacation' ever brought up? This is funny FSUlover: "because the trip may bring new experiences to both of us (like deciding what is the right time to go to dinner) and that shows the real character of the woman." Reeeeeeeealy........I thought that more to do with being hungry or not. "However, you only have a week, and I doubt that she will say yes to that after only the first date. Then why did you bring this up FSUlover? Were you gloating???? Your Reply: Your name:   New Registration Password:   Forgot password?   refresh Code:   Russian brides > Main Forum > Heading to Odessa-Nikolev Next Month
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