Wouldn't it be better if you knew before hand what you are getting into?
There are several ways to verfiy the sincerity of real profile.
Google "scammers" or "scam" & you will find many good professional websites.
Secondly register many agencies & search for the same girl on different websites
& if you find the same girl on many websites than you already know or have idea about what you
are getting into.
It is just advice for those to find out
why a girl has been on a dating site for so long period of time!
It takes only one correspondence to begin a fruitful relationship.
Why waste precious time on her?
Why waste money on correspondence on her?
Why put in the effort write letters everyday for something that is not there?
Why call her in the first place?
Why have a videochat?
Why go all the way to meet her?
Be smart & do your research, some of us don't have time on our side.
If anybody needs assistance please feel free to private msg me?
Good advice there, Some sites do not display the girls surname. Also it takes a little time sometimes to get the girls surname in order to do a google search on her name. If the girl does not display her surname or will not give it to you, red flag. Also if she is on many sites and has been there for a long time, red flag, If you do correspond with her and she gives excuses about having a phone and says she does not have one, red flag. Of course many of us have been there done that and bought the T-shirt but these are the first signs that the girl and agency are not entirely honerable. I would make it law where a girl who has a confirmed profile has to display her full name, not a made up name like inno-wants-to-bounce-on-you. That would make life easier and yes google is now getting quite good at outing these girls. It worked for me a girl i dated her name came up on google about 4 times, so it is a good way to find a way to let you think before you act.
good daytime!
sorry for cutting in your conversation, but i would disagree with this "why a girl has been on a dating site for so long period of time!" and this "It takes only one correspondence to begin a fruitful relationship"
a girl from a dating site is a human too and she also has a right to chose. the fact that some man drew his attantion on her and wrote a letter, doesn't mean, that it is the certain beginning of long happy relations.
it may be also found out durind the correspondence, that they don't suit each other. if she just doesn't like the man - red flag ?
and about being on dating sites for long time... what's bad in it, explaine please ?)
searching for a soulmate is not going for bread to the nearest market. it takes time and efforts. one can meet with dishonorable people and disappointments, so she's just going on with her search...
I know of many very real women that are still listed on dating sites.
You must understand that less than 5% of the men she will correspond with will actually get on a plane and go visit her.
My RW perused the sites for 2 years before we met each other. She had corresponded with many but I was the first to ever go meet her (and she the first for me).
And a while back I received an email from one of the women that I had been corresponding with, just asking how I was and if I had found someone yet.
I was truthful and told her yes and haven't heard from her. But I was saddened because this is a very nice lady, perfect in all ways, who is still out there searching. Most of us here wouldn't be worthy of her consideration.
They are there, you just have to keep searching (and be worthy on your own).
I disagree with a girl having her surname on a website. This would leave her open to many kinds of abuse. Any person using dating sites or internet sites in general has a right to a little bit of anonymity.
I’m pretty sure there are some legitimate girls who have found themselves on blacklists just because some guy didn’t cut it with her and wants his revenge.
There is an all too common scenario playing out here where a guy who has been conservative with the truth about his age, looks, income etc…turns up in the girls home town and she, from the first moment of impact, decides she would rather have the guy she thought she’d been writing to.
Whether she refuses his advances point blank or lets him down gently, if they guy chooses to he can crucify her when he gets back home.
Easy for him to do…not so easy for her to set her record straight again.
yes and of course with the previous correspondance and all photos being exchanged the girl also happens to not notice the balding middle aged man with a gut in the picture. Yet she has the miraculus ability to feel bad for herself after you turn up and happen to be the guy in the photo the guy that she has corresponded with for several months prior to meeting her. Howether there is some truth to it some men must blag it and use some old photos and yes i am sure some girls must get pretty disapointing men turn up sometimes. I know of a few guys that cried scam without fully trying to understand the girls feelings before reacting. Just dont see a problem with a girl having her surname displayed, for example if a girl found out that i was not entirely honerable from googling my name i would accept it and it is only fair.
" I know of many very real women that are still listed on dating sites."
I believe real women are those you have written to and met and it is the same women.
Writing is such a small part of a relationship. IMHO
I have heard the figure of men actually jumping on that plane is between 5%-10% but I wonder how many men have started the process of looking to FSU girls....thousands????? tens of thousands????
It seems the longer you are in the process, the more people you find out have attempted this.
"And the guys that seem to take years and years and make trip after trip also have a lot of self-reflection to do."
Is there something wrong with a person that takes their time in the marriage process Baron????
I don't want to jump into anything, which lets say is 1 year or less. How do you really know a girl until you actually spend every day with her...not just holidays? Best way to know a girl is to see her in crisis...how does she react? I wonder how many guys have married a girl in their own hometown
in the same time frame as a girl from FSU. Not likely!!! Most every one here has been married at one time, and she was the 'right girl'....passionate, in love, together forever......well over time you either come closer or drift apart. I don't care how one feels at moment, tell me in 20-25 years if she was the 'right one'?
I do agree with you Baron, many losers do go to FSU to find a girl because they can't find one at home and thinks by flashing some cash girls will come running....well they will....but only until $$$ runs out!!! It all comes down to what you can offer(not $$) and what girl can offer(not that).
Kirkland said: "I disagree with a girl having her surname on a website. This would leave her open to many kinds of abuse. Any person using dating sites or internet sites in general has a right to a little bit of anonymity."
Fully agree with that. See the "Alevtina Vasyanina" thread for a fine example (er, not) of a so-called "guardian angel" who did not do his work nor research seriously, and has smeared some fine woman's name in public. That thread is exactly the first thing her family members, potential or current employers, friends etc will find about her when they google her.
interesting to wonder if a girl will post her name. and then agencies say it is for the protection of the girl. I can empathize with that. We all - most of us - do our best to keep our anonymity. Why not allow the same respect to a lady. Sure there are a bunch of untrustworthy females. But there are just as many untrustworthy men. Give a girl a break already. But it should be fair to acquire some real information about a lady after you have established a good repoir with her. Just do not expect that she post her name, address and phone number for all to see. Would you if you were a young single girl/lady from Kiev or wherever? I think not. This whole dating FSU women thing has been tainted. There may be just as much frustration on both sides of the coin so to speak. Face it, it ain't easy and it is a gamble. But not so much of a gamble if you go to the table knowing the odds and which dealers have a reputation for cheating. Meaning 'agencies'. As it has been said countless times, do the homework, do not expect more than you would in your own neck of the woods and also -- do not misrepresent yourself. It is a two way street.
I don't see a problem with a gal only posting their first name on the dating site but would want to see the full name signing the first personal email back and forth. Just like they would want to see the same from you.
"Is there something wrong with a person that takes their time in the marriage process Baron????"
No there isn't but it also will depend on the age of both. If you both are in your 20's then yes take your time. But, if you are both older adults, and if both are there truly for the purpose of getting married, then that, to me, breaks down a lot of the barriers up front. I think that may be why some men take so long, it is because they themselves are not that serious and/or the women they go to visit see the same and then are not that interested in them. There is a large element of trust here and, at least for the US, the long visa process allows extra time during that journey.
"Most every one here has been married at one time, and she was the 'right girl'....passionate, in love, together forever......well over time you either come closer or drift apart."
Personally that was not my case. We both came to the conclusion that was not the case and we both agreed to it and became divorced.
"I don't care how one feels at moment, tell me in 20-25 years if she was the 'right one'?"
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i would have thought jumping into a relationship in your first or second trip would show more of a persons limited idea of what it takes for such relationships to work, its possible this sort of person has self issues and just wants something he can call a partner or wife,, and then decides he now knows all about mail order brides or what Russian women really are like when things go wrong..
how many guys and girls suffer from their own insecurity's and decide to blame this on something else other then themselves is just far to common in this game..
any new person finding a partner so quickly and having it work is very lucky..
i would think it would be most wise to take your time like most good things..
if you haven't learnt something about yourself plus much more doing this, then really you will more then likely to become another of those statistics we constantly hear about.
I'm forty three and i don't really give a rats backside if I'm fifty five when i finish with this, this isn't about age or pegging a supermodel,,, this person has to be very right, its that simple,,,
ohh yeah and very Russian.
not that i use them but one good thing about these pay letter sites, it makes you have to start thinking for yourself very quickly,, i don't really see a issue will long timers on those sites for i do or did know some,, its just a pity these girls think they have to use such to find him..
GOOD ADVICE... Google her name BEFORE you write to her, especially if you are on pay per letter sites.
These sites are absolutely crammed full of scammers and only exist because of mugs and novices with too much money who don't know how to spend it wisely.
I bet if she is on EM's site as well as ppl sites "she" will be so happy to write to you from the latter, but probably won't want to know you on EM's
So google the name before you send a letter or join a scam website
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okay , i had been cheated from this web-side that you should pay by letter ))) ... i can not believe i was that fool
then any way one day i search for such a girl in the picture of this side and some how i find her and she told me that she did not register there and she don`t want to talk to strangers ))))
so i asked her how can her profile is there she told me that this photos was take in a photo shoot by a photographer and he may be sell it to this side later on
and after that i know a model from the internet and when i told her what happen she told me that this agency offer her to take photos for her and put it on the this side , as a fake I.D. and she refused , cause they offer her a few money )))))))))))) !!!
and usually they give you the girl contact after 15 letter you open , so most of the time they still talking to you till the 15 letter and they give you the contact and some times she don`t answer or she answer for only one letter , and by the way all the 15 letter she is talking about how she loves me and she`s dreaming of out children and house and she`s waiting for the day i got her direct contact so she will send me her photos of family and house and i will send the same and i will call her and go give a visit )
the only web-side who works was the one where you pay per month or year , where you have a chat program , so even after the girl like you or you like her
you will ask she for her mobile or having a web-cam so you make sure she is , and it works and i may see one this Week if GOD want ))))
don`t let any one fool you and tell you to open a letter with money , cause even if the girl is real and this is a very low percent , she open your letter for free , imagine how many letter she will open and how many other she`s talking to !!! ??
Good point, Mr. alcapon. It's best not to mention the ladies names, but I think you should mention the website name who is putting the fake ID's. As I mentioned before, my gf is on Natasha Club. All other websites I know she was in was deleted shortly after my visit, but not Natasha Club. She was shown as logged in sometimes when I am talking to her and when she went to Moscow and Italy where she could not find a computer.
If you must go to a pay per letter, your writing first is best. If she wrote to you, it means she probably wrote to at least a dozen others. One of the first things you should ask her are her phone number and email address. You then have other means of communicating. Use the website for translation, if you must.