Well i met her in kiev.This time a different woman.
After corresponding for just over 2 months.
On this my 3rd time visit to ukraine I decided to stay for 14 days.I figured it would make me look more dedicated and serious through her eyes.That was the theory.
I am 37 . She is age 38 divorced with a 19 year old daughter that lives with her.everything went nicely for first 7 or 8 days then I noticed we had different likes and tastes.We were not quite as talkative to each other Her daughter spoke english far better than her mother and she acted as translator many times for us.
This was when I noticed that me Ingrid her daughter becoming more friendly.Then much to my surprise her mother suggests I go take her daughter ingrid out for a drink.This is too long to type out here.
I am cutting it short.
I am returning to kiev May 24(volcano dust permitting) to see her daughter ingrid.This has astonished me the way it has turned out.
Is she a gold digger?I dont know. gold diggers are in britain too not just FSU countries-I was married to british gold digger.
:))its a 3nd world country,, they tend to think more logically with some things, i wonder how you are thinking:))
most people are gold diggers buddy, its how much scruple's one has when gold is involved.
The daughter and her mother certainly talked :-) A menage-a-trois is not out of the question, and the secret can stay within the family. If you marry the mother, you can bring the daughter too, as a bonus :-)
A 19-year old daughter would have been too much temptation for me :-)
Joking aside, mothers usually want the best for their daughters. Therefore, if the mother saw you as a good catch for her daughter or the daughter expressed interest, I have no doubt in my mind that the mother wants to see you two together, no matter that she loses the chance herself.
bryn,
this is very interesting predicament that you find yourself in.
seems as though you landed the better prize though.if you continue with her daughter I would suggest you get mother and daughter to consume some nice wine with you .get them drunk.
get them both into bed then empty your balls into both of them.
The chances are not good for a happy marriage with a 19 year old, let alone with a 37 year old man. You can have fun with her, but that's it IMHO. Psychologically, they are not ready for marriage. Their morals are still being developed. The chances of divorce drop dramatically if marriage happens after the age of 26 for both male and female.
are you sure you were corresponding with the mother? maybe you were corresponding with the daughter all along? maybe it was the daughter that wanted to find her mother a match.
tell them your thinking out accepting an english teacher position in kiev for one year. Tell them this will give you more time to get to know them.
if they are sincere, they would be delightted. if they are gold diggers, they will know that english teachers in ukraine don't make much.
whatever you do, you need to be clever. i guarantee you that they are.
The daughter may not be a gold digger, but you're better off with the mother. The age difference and how young the daughter is, that's a disaster waiting to happen. The girl may become bored and leave after she becomes a citizen.
neoKEN,
You would be better off on your own forum where you promote yourselves.
You know which one I'm talking about, russianwomen forum.
You allow people to 'bag' sites like Fiance.com and others, while you still have the ' partner programme' in place which allows agencies to buy profiles and get a cut from the letters. Isn't this correct?
By the way, has wifey seen the ' Dotemp' vid that you saved on your ' youtube' site.
:)
Nice tit's eh!
;)
Interesting...reminds me of that calf happily chomping away on the expensive feed they're giving, unaware of the preparations for the feast of which he is guest of honour.
I'd take the offer of the daughter as a poison chalice.
Some fun could be had if you keep vigilant and be aware of the need to keep one eye on your possesions.
Just caught up with this thread but would like to make a comment.
I agree with other poster that its likely that mother wants whats best for daughter - 20 year age difference and is not unheard of (actually it seems to be more rare that the MAN is a year younger than the woman). If you were to marry daughter and even then to get divorced - daughter would certainly benefit.
To mother you are #1. YOUNGER man (bad), #2. have different preferences and values (bad), #3. difficult to communicate with, due to language barrier (bad).
To daughter you are older, established, serious man.
I'm not a bit surprised she passed you on to daughter.
Jet; your scenario may ring true and in alot of cases it is true in poorer countries. I don't think the matchmaking intrigues of the mother don't bode well for a future of bliss for the daughter.
I notice that the OP hasn't returned.
Of course my interpretation of the situation pertains to the norms of poorer countries - but that is what we are talking about here. Having more wealth though doesn't preclude something similar happening in a richer country. Its long been a dream of many American mothers that her daughter marry a doctor for instance.
If a young, well-to-do doctor happened to enter the life of a single mother (of an adult daughter) and doctor just happened to be younger than the mother, shared different values and only spoke a foreghn language (that the adult daughter also spoke) - it wouldn't be out of the realm of possibility that rather than for the mother to kick the doctor to the curb, she fix him up with her daughter.
The most intriguing website that I have found recently to actually meet REAL women that exist, where to can exchange messages for free and that seems to be very popular with Russian women themselves is lovefoto.ru.
You can also access the data base and sign on, using the same name and password though numerous other websites - but this is the one I have been using recently.
And if you pay just (I think) $5 to $15 to become a VIP member (has to do with how man days you wants such membership) you can do some very specific searches.
I’m totally in agreement with you; this scenario takes place across the globe, but as you say more in the poorer countries.
My opinion remains the same; I’d prefer not to be coerced into an arrangement just because the mother wants the best for her daughter..it’s Victorian and I made a personal decision to live in the read world quite a number of years ago.
Of course it’s nice to be pampered and be the centre of attention, especially by someone with younger flesh, but in my experience the older woman will offer more of what I’d be looking for. (19 year old girl…37 year old guy?...get real.)
This arranged marriage makes both parties a commodity, and true depth of relationship understanding doesn’t come with such disparity.
The man in this scenario is the centre of attention for one particular reason. Do you think the mother wants a grandchild? Or does she consider herself entitled to a share when daughter returns to Ukraine with the gold?
Arranged marriages were the norm for many many many years before Victorian times. Through out almost all of human existance marriages between two people were generally arranged in Roman culture, Egyptian culture, you name it.
"Falling in love" type marriages are the new jids on the block.
to "fall in love" prior to marriage is a luxury only recently developed and completely contingent on a nation being developed enough that nearly all unions can survive based entirely on the efforts of any two individuals.
But just because it MIGHT be THEIR preference for you and th daughter to get together - YOU certainly have a right to a say in the matter! You you can convince then to reconsider or you can step away and find someone else. You certainly have the choice to "fall in love" with the one you desire regardless of human history.