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	Create New Topic   My Posts   My forum buddies   Invite friends   Private messages Russian brides > Main Forum > jump4love.com Author Post teddy2012 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/28/2012 7:10:45 AM   Hi all, Im looking some some info, not the usual whois info bla bla, Im looking to find the owner in Person of jump4love.com if not the owner a developer who works for this company, who is presently working in Kiev, put your feelers out)) PM me if you can help on this there could be a nice reward))) Rag'n'Bull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/28/2012 7:50:38 PM   Registrant: Jump4love, LLC 2710 Thomes Ave., Suite 563 Cheyenne, Wyoming 82001 United States Registered through: Go Daddy Domain Name: JUMP4LOVE.COM Created on: 19-Mar-09 Expires on: 19-Mar-12 Last Updated on: 22-Feb-11 Administrative Contact: Sklyarov, Dmitry admin@jump4love.com Jump4love, LLC 2710 Thomes Ave., Suite 563 Cheyenne, Wyoming 82001 United States +1.13073160315 Fax -- +1.13073160315 Technical Contact: Sklyarov, Dmitry admin@jump4love.com Jump4love, LLC 2710 Thomes Ave., Suite 563 Cheyenne, Wyoming 82001 United States +1.13073160315 Fax -- +1.13073160315 teddy2012 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/28/2012 8:56:58 PM   No!!! We need like the house number where the guy will be sitting having his dinner)) or where maybe we will find him at his local bar having a drink)) that sort of info)) Rag'n'Bull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/28/2012 9:22:41 PM   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dmitry_Sklyarov Dmitry Vitalevich Sklyarov (Дми́трий Вита́льевич Скля́ров) (born December 18, 1974) is a Russian computer programmer known for his 2001 arrest by American law enforcement over software copyright restrictions under the DMCA anti-circumvention provision. He is also known for his work showing the vulnerabilities in Canon Authenticity Verification, which was used to determine the authenticity of photos by encrypting photo's EXIF data. Sklyarov was a PhD student researching cryptanalysis and an employee of the Russian software company ElcomSoft, where he created "The Advanced eBook Processor" (AEBR) software. On July 16, 2001, due to a complaint from Adobe Systems, a US company, that copy protection arrangements in its e-book file format were being violated by ElcomSoft's product, Sklyarov was arrested after giving a presentation called "eBook's Security - Theory and Practice" at the DEF CON convention in Las Vegas, Nevada. He was charged with distributing a product designed to circumvent copyright protection measures, under the terms of the Digital Millennium Copyright Act and arrested by the FBI as he was about to return to Moscow. The day after his arrest several web sites and mailing lists were started to organize protests against his arrest, many of them under the slogan "Free Dmitry" or "Free Sklyarov". The main point of these campaigns was that no DMCA violations were committed at DEF CON, and the DMCA does not apply in Russia, so Sklyarov was being arrested for something that was perfectly legal in his jurisdiction. A campaign to boycott Adobe products was also launched. On July 19, 2001, the Association of American Publishers issued a press release announcing their support of his arrest. Adobe initially supported the arrest, but after a meeting with the Electronic Frontier Foundation, they issued a joint press release on July 23, 2001, recommending his release. However, Adobe still supports the case against ElcomSoft. After Sklyarov was arrested he was held briefly in a local jail in Las Vegas; then he was held in the Oklahoma City Federal Prisoner Transfer Center until August 3, 2001, when he was transferred to the Federal building in San Jose, California. On August 6, 2001, Sklyarov was released on a US $50,000 bail and was not allowed to leave Northern California. The charges against Sklyarov were later dropped in exchange for his testimony. He was allowed to return to Russia on December 13, 2001. On December 18, 2002 following a two-week trial in San Jose, California, a jury found that Elcomsoft had not wilfully violated the U.S. law. ragingbull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/29/2012 12:23:05 PM   Are you trying to get him on copyright issues, Teddy? Look at vkontakte. Many current American movies are there now, available to members, dubbed in Russian. I wrote Secretary of State Hillary Clinton about this, but she did not answer. It looks like copyright rules are in place in their TOS, but not strictly enforced. teddy2012 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/29/2012 7:14:20 PM   No)) Firstly anyone can put any name as an owner of a website! So who has any proof that Sklyarov is the owner of this site?? it is probably an alias) Lets be honest would a guy like that, with his intelligence want to set up a stupid Russian dating site? Im sure he could do better than that)) Im not after this guy)) Im seeking to find the ACTUAL owner of the site, along with the ACtual owner of Brachka.net. Brachka.net operates out of kiev, I know this as they hacked my friends web site and we have the log details and IP. Kiev is a pretty small city and sooner or later we will find out what we need. Im not interested in what stupid men have lost $20,000 to jump4love.com thats their problem, a hard lesson for many. When my friend who happens to be Russian has the Actaul address where these guys eat and drink he will finally be able to deliver their late Christmas present) enough said) Rag'n'Bull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/30/2012 4:09:35 AM   Ted, Well I just googled "2710 Thomes Ave. Suite 563 Cheyenne, Wyoming 82001" and happydateonline.com comes up, you can do the whois search as I have just done, happydate comes up with some different registrant details yet shares the same suite 563 etc. as jump4love. That's as far through the google results as I got but from known information it's always worth a try to google names, addresses, phone numbers or whatever. lonelyranger1701 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/30/2012 11:56:43 PM   Teddy,,, you really disappointed me!!! I was looking forward to reading or hearing;,,,, “Deranged American gets revenge with scamming website!!! “ Ivor,,, when you posted all of that info on here for all to see,,, instead of a PM,,, you took that option away from teddy!! Think next time!!!! If I were you,,,, I would just wait six months and no one will be the wiser!! newJason Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/31/2012 7:12:31 AM   Hi Ted. As anyone can "own" a website by simply registering a domain, as Ivor pointed out. This info has little to do with the actual operations of the site. Can I assume you are after the person who is collecting the revenue from that site? The first place to begin looking is at your Credit Card statement. (assuming that you spent money on that site.) A lot of sites use a payment processor, like CCBill for example. You can write the payment processor and ask for the information of the account receiving payment from them. Payment processors are pretty good about giving info like this. If they give you any trouble, you tell them that you would like the info without getting the IRS involved, and you can usually get an address that way. If you know someone in management at your bank, they can help you track this information also. You should also have a very good reason for doing an investigation of this sort, as you could very easily be seen as a hacker trying to get all this personal info. teddy2012 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/19/2012 3:04:53 PM   Silly People))) Problem with this website all people do is cackle on about getting ripped by the same dating sites over and over, actually it gets boring seeing the same threads here all the time) this is their problem, some people never learn from mistakes, and the world is full of idiots) As for revenge from dearanged American gets revenge on scamming web site, I have never been scammed a penny off any site! Actually I do not need any site, I already have a long term Russian GF, have been to more of the Former Soviet Union countries more times and spent more time there than most of the fools in this forum, I live 10 months a year in ST Petersburg, I can assure you there is nothing I do not know about Russian life bla bla than most of the fools searching for a Russian wife here know) "Lonelyranger" you really have no idea! I was never interested in usual shit people find on net)) My problem is solved)) I found exactly what I needed and what needed to be done has been done) All I can say to all the fools still playing around with scam sites, is the usual "Get a life" ))) Spaceebo)) Rag'n'Bull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/22/2012 6:51:53 AM   teddy2012, If you have a gripe with any particular individual the correct phraseology is "Silly Person" rather than "Silly People" whilst typecasting 'us' as all being in the same or similar scenario. But who's really "Silly"? ... All the, apparent, no-hopers present on this forum or the fucking idiot that popped in to ask us "Silly People" for assistance? kiwinorth Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/22/2012 10:52:21 PM   funny guy,,, asking the help of cackling, boring one shit-less, they need to get a life, of deranged Americans when wanting something. then once finding the answer, his balls are filled with an urgency of needing to thank his common fellow man in a way to remind all, his shit dont stink like yours. but glad you found a place you can call home all reminds me of a book "teddy bears picnic" good book if ya have kids or need a prezzy(seriously) no the book has no liking to you ted it seems, its just a good kids book where all the teds get along just nicely, and one needs to put some positive spin to this time wasting stupid thread.. Sydneylover Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/29/2012 4:56:22 PM   My experiences with jump4love Certainly writing letters to sexy, busty beautiful women and receive an answers is an exciting undertaking. But is it real? Even if it is fun, I ask myself about the Results for Money ratio. Writing to some women is a complete waste of money and it is also insulting, as it could be deceit. Many women wrote to me and try to seduce me to go on their chat-cameras, as they will receive a commission. So for a sexy busty blond, you are nothing more then a money-bag with legs. Sorry Guys. They are not interested in you. Even after you wrote these 15 letters, many will not give you their details, and even if you received details (phone number) and you SMS them to provide email and skype address, they will never write to you (I think it is in their contact). So, you are back to square ONE. But they got your money. I am not saying that all the girls are like that. You can experiment and see letter-writing as PURE entertainment (and you are willing to pay for it). If you find a decent woman, ask yourself, how much effort does she place in relationship building? What kind of questions would you avoid to prolong the letter-writing? A woman who is interested would answer important questions. Thus, when you discover that the woman is keen and honest (you get a feeling) then try it out. Sexy photos: Let us say you are a multi-millionaire and are tired of scammers. What kind of photos would you place on your profile? Your red Ferrari or you in your gum-boots planting roses? What would a woman do to attract a de c e n t guy? Show her tits? I don’t think so. Motto: Stay successful!! Think!! Your money is better in your wallet, then in theirs. When you find a decent partner, take the risk and spend small amount of money, then see what happens. Think with your head and not with your cock. Written by Norbert / Frohmood.com Sydneylover Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 3/21/2013 8:56:54 PM   Update 22-3-13 I am a determined guy, so I tried again and again. I received many phone numbers (after 15 letters) and some phone numbers were wrong. Only two became skype contacts and out of that one woman was a scammer Anastasia Demianenko, or Anastasia Avramenko (here other scammer name) I don't believe anything. It is all to good to be true. Webbman Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 4/12/2013 11:44:47 PM   Tell me what you know about Anastasia Demianenko I have been writing and visiting a woman with that name. BillGBurt Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/26/2013 3:44:00 AM   stay clear of those sites. I was tired of dating here in America and tried the online thing. Even used the site Jump4Love. I undertook several months of communications. Out of 700 or so letters received (and many responded) about 6 or 7 turned out to be the genuine thing. That's a pretty damn low percentage. Some things I learned over the course of this expensive experimenting: If the girl asks for money early in the game, flee!....If she has photos of herself looking and appearing normal, especially at the beach or with family or friends, chances are good she's real, but still be careful....Twenty-something pretty girls don't chase men twice their age--they don't have to--they are to busy being chased themselves....The economy in Ukraine is not great--Out of the real ones I spoke to on the phone or visited with in skype or yahoo web cam, they mostly reported making anywhere from 100 to 300 dollars a week (300 being the high end).{a very decent home in Ukraine costs about 400 to 500 a month. Some families get by on only a few hundred dollars a month}. My point being here, that some will do about anything to make more money....The site requires that you send a certain amount of letters before you are able to request any contact details from a female registered on their site--If, once the specified amount is reached and she puts it off or you get a bad feeling, run for the hills.... There are a lot of signals and warning signs to watch out for when it comes to sites such as these and I don't need to repeat the warnings i've already read in this post, so keep your wits about you. I did visit Ukraine on several occasions, and even met with a few of the girls in Kiev. One showed me a small run down place that houses laptops equipped with web cams where they can go to use the Jump site. They don't pay for this opportunity, but it is required they send out a certain number of letters or chat requests. Each "chat" site has a "regulator" that monitors their activity. The one I saw, I was promptly escorted out of for obvious reasons, but they do exist and there are real ladies there, but beware some of their intentions. I was cautioned by the girl I went to go see that some of these girls only income is from this web site. BUYER BEWARE! After 6 months and a pile of cash, I suggest you try dating a little closer to home. I cannot even count the photos I received and some emails as well and some may ask, "was it worth it"? I will answer; "no, the ride is not worth the cost of admission". Bill Rick4girl Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 7/5/2013 5:12:58 PM   Im guessing ol Teddy never found who he was looking for. Contrary to his claim, both web servers operated(still do) out of St Petersburg and NOT Kiev. If he really lived in St Petersburg then he might have had a clue. Im wondering if Teddy got a little beat down taking on Russian "businessmen", lol His story was so full of holes if it was a ship it would have sunk. He tracked a hacker to Kiev???? really???? hackers expose their actual IP address??? since when??? Im not tech savvy by any means but I can spoof my IP to anywhere in the world I want people to think Im at with a couple mouse clicks. Teddy sounds really bitter about something. Im guessing the guy he is looking for screwed his girl with a bigger shlong and now she cant feel him,lol madhat23 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 3/18/2016 2:00:18 PM   Hehehe, of course it is a scam site. Watch closely. You can sometimes see that in a video chat, the woman is not really there... it is a video. And at other times, you can see the woman for real, but her motions do not coincide with the motions you see. Lastly, during one chat I had, the woman I was communicating with made the comment that a woman next to her, who was engaged in conversation with a customer, was lesbian... make your own conclusions. However: If you have never been to Kiev, or any other city in Ukraine, you are missing one unbelievable experience. I was to meet a woman from the site. Naturally, she did not show... (think about this). In my extra free time, I roamed the city of Kiev. In reality, it is less expensive to go there on a trip than to spend time on the dating site. And you will find an atmosphere better than most college towns. I stopped spending money on the site and am preparing to make my fourth trip to Ukraine... with a big smile. If you need help with tracking down the crook that runs the site, give me some pertinent information and I will see what I can do while in Kiev xvvx Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 3/20/2016 10:07:51 AM   Sydneylover, BillGBurt, madhat23 all the same person. enough said zema Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 9/15/2017 8:53:20 AM   Teddy, can you pm me the details of j4love? 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