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	Create New Topic   My Posts   My forum buddies   Invite friends   Private messages Russian brides > Main Forum > This was fun while it lasted but no more ... Thanks... Author Post AussieInLove Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/12/2012 11:07:52 AM   Hey Guys... I am a simple man with a dream... To find and marry the woman of MY dreams and to live happy for the rest of OUR lives... I have the personality, vitality, character, integrity to make this a reality for the lucky girl... In turn she will make me the happiest man in the world by simply being a happy, honest, sexy partner in my life. So I decided to find this girl in the Ukraine... I researched about culture, personality, values and the fire I was looking for... I am of Greek blood so I am passionate, a go getter, a careful but very optimistic type person, intelligent, a romantic, a great lover, a fit and handsome man... I did not embark on this lightly... The Ukraine woman personality is something that I read about continuously for months, the compatibility between a Ukraine woman and MY personality and temperament is something that I could write about extensively... I did not think this was going to be easy... but I was also never going to be taken advantage of or scammed in the way that I had heard of and read about in this endeavour... and ultimately I KNEW this was going to become my dream come true... my reality for my life... THE MAIN difference between "your" (collective) approach on this forum and mine is this... I NEVER THOUGHT OF THIS IN THE TRADITIONAL foreigner goes and tries to find a FSU woman by using the traditional mail order bride systems in place...!!! I do not know if you GET what this means... So I will try and explain a little more or better... especially for the slow ones in the group... I read so much advice about be careful, have options, you need to spend money, you need to have interpreters, you need to contact many girls through many agencies, do it like this, this way fails, this way IF YOU ARE LUKY yields results... IF YOU ARE LUCKY... !!! WELL... I NEVER DID ANY OF THAT... And I will not do any of that...!!! I never had to rely on luck for anything else in my life... WHY ON EARTH would I rely on luck when it comes to THE most important part of my life? my wife...!... why would I write to 100 girls and HOPE that I am lucky enough to find THE one...? Luck has NOTHING to do with this... This is about being ready, prepared, the right personality, having people skills, understanding women, knowing how to interact with people, knowing how to build relationships, and DOING THE WORK THAT IS REQUIRED... I made my own luck when I rejected hundreds of letters and contacts by hundreds of women that I knew where not the right ones... Guys... a letter from an agency girl is a letter that is sent to hundreds of men waiting to see which one bites... If I liked a girl I write to her... If she does not respond... I go to the next one... if she does, we talk... If I don't like what I hear I go to the next one...simple... UNTIL I met the ONE... MY ONE... So I met a girl...on a dating site...Well ... to be factual...$90 odd dollars got me 3 months membership and that was it. contact anyone write to anyone and when you are happy that you want to talk more you go off the site into private correspondence.... It wasn't an agency... I did not have to pay for interpreters, letters, chatting, or anything of the like... We talked.. the very next day... on Skype... for free... (One of my criteria is "good" english or better... I insisted on this... we know that communication is the KEY to ANY successful relationship yet you think that you can have a relationship with a woman you cannot communicate with...WTF? if the most beautiful girl wrote to me but had no or limited english she got a thank you but no thank you letter...) we will continue to talk.. we have built a relationship... a relationship that is based on compatibility... not just the way she looks... I wanted a girl that was 32-38... I am 45 and I did not want more than a 10-12 years difference... mine is 34.. I wanted a girl that was 160-180cm tall... Mine is 170... (I am tall 193cm so height is somewhat relevant for both of us) I wanted girl that was petite, or athletic... 50-60kg's... mine is 54. I wanted a girl that has a child or two... Why? because I wanted a stable person that knew how to be with kids... I have two of my own and she will be a part of their lives... mine has one... I wanted a girl that was funny, intelligent, cheeky and sexy... mine has all of that in abundance... In the early days I insisted on her explaining to me... WHY ME? What do you like about me...? why do you think this will work with me? and her natural instinct was to just say because you look nice... But I drilled deeper.. I got her to articulate to me (AND TO HERSELF) why ME? COMPATIBILITY...!!! ANother key ingredient for any of this to even start to have a chance of working...! Sure, so far it is only an online relationship. BUT it is still a RELATIONSHIP... we have feelings for each other... it is not some interpreter letters written by who knows who... I am going to meet HER... my girl... not just SOME girl that I corresponded with for X number of letters ... when she meets me in real life she will fall in love with me... (how do I know? I know this because everybody loves me... I just have that loveable personality... and I am a good man, a man of my word... she is already in love with me... she knows it and I know it...) the only thing that I need to do to solidify it in her mind is land in Odessa on the 6th of July)... and then we will embark on the next stage of our lives... getting her to come to me here and we live happily ever after... .... to be continued... beemer18 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/12/2012 12:10:02 PM   One question.....then why are you here?? No need to defend yourself!!!! I know a forum site where there are actual ladies involved from FSU, I wonder what they would say about your situation!!! I doubt you would like to hear their opinions.....just a thought.... lonelyranger1701 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/12/2012 12:18:04 PM   beemer,,,, he wasn't here to have questions answered,, he was here to boast and help his little dyslexic friend!! D-1 and D-2 Aussie,,, if there is anything I can help you with,,,, just ask!!! Aloha AussieInLove Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/12/2012 7:19:26 PM   continued... The fact that this girl is from Ukraine is simply a manufactured coincidence... If I wanted to find a Greek, American, South American, German, French, on Chinese girl I would have done it the same way... Find someone I liked, get to know her and then get her to fall in love with ME... I have not spent 1 cent on this girl and I will not spend 1 cent on this girl to MAKE HER FALL IN LOVE WITH ME... IF she does;t already love me for who I am then she is not the right one... After we are together, AFTER we are in Love, after she is mine for ever well then I have the means and the ability to give her whatever she wants in her life... BUT that is AFTER.. not BEFORE...! And IF I choose to give someone a gift AFTER... well then it is a GIFT... I am a man that if I give a GIFT... I DO NOT EXPECT ANYTHING IN RETURN.. so if then things don;t work out for WHATEVER reason I would never begrudge the GIFT... It was a GIFT... II was not scammed.. I chose to give a GIFT to another person... One of the things that get my blood boiling is this "I gave her this and that and I took her here and there and I visited her 3 or 12 times and THEN she told me that I was not the one for her... THEN SHE LEFT ME... SHE SCAMMED ME..!!! What a lot of BS... FIRST be a man and don't talk about what you give to anyone.. you only sound like a looser which you probably are.. and second if you try to buy anyones love or affection it will ALWAYS fail... because it is one of the VERY FEW things in life that cannot be bought...! My trip to Ukraine is to meet my girl but then I am also going to Greece to visit my mother and my family there... It is a trip I would have done anyway this year... I do not need and I will not have a second option... I am not looking for ANY Ukraine girl just in case it doesn't work with this one... I AM ONLY INTERESTED IN THIS ONE... I am not going to be scammed, taken advantage of or be ripped of by ANYONE... I am way too smart for that... and I work way too hard for my money to give it to ANYONE else... Frankly I do think that the word SCAMMED is overused by way too many people... A more apt description to what is happening to you is "IDIOTIC MAN GIVING YOUR MONEY AWAY TO INFLATE YOUR EGO" If this girl works out to be different to what I know she is... well... her loss.. not mine... but I don't think this will be the case... I have not spoken to her for over 250 hours on Skype, over 20 hours of face to face webcam, over 300 sms's back and forth to be surprised in 2 months time... I just need to learn how to treat her the way she NEEDS to be treated and then teach her what she needs to learn to be in a relationship with me and she will fall in love with me and be my woman for the rest of our lives... I know she is temperamental, passionate, jealous, fiery, cheeky, sexy, hot, ambitious, intelligent, funny, smart, argumentative, temperamental (yes twice) and THIS IS THE WOMAN OF MY DREAMS...!!!! I do not want some sexy blond bimbo... I do not want some stay at home damp rag of a woman, I do not want some pretty but cold woman with no emotions and no fire in her belly... I do not want some woman that will be boring... I do not want easy... I want heart racing, blood pumping, mind blowing, exciting, argumentative, hot blooded, cheeky, sexy, beautiful inside and out woman...!!! I WANT THIS WOMAN... MY WOMAN... AND I WIL HAVE HER... So you might guess from the above that I am getting a little frustrated with a few of you guys... some of you have given me INVALUABLE advice about how to go about GETTING MY WOMAN... and for that I THANK YOU and I will be forever indebted (you know who you are)... The others, the nay sayers, the negatives, the mail order bride aficionados, the scammed, the to be scammed, the critics of the process without any intelligence to understand what and why is happening to you, THE EXPERIENCED but still lonely old men ... you have nothing to contribute to my life... (you know who you are) I will now cease to post on here... congrats to those that wanted me gone... you have your way... The rest of you that I value your experience and advice I will be in touch privately... Good luck to all and God bless... (feel free to comment on this post for the benefit of others but if I can I will resist the urge to respond ;-) ) Rag'n'Bull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/12/2012 8:05:07 PM   "I have the personality, vitality, character, integrity to make this a reality for the lucky girl. In turn she will make me the happiest man in the world by simply being sexy partner in my life. I am of Greek blood so I am passionate, a great lover, a fit and handsome man. I will try and explain a little more or better... especially for the slow ones in the group... I never had to rely on luck for anything else in my life Luck has NOTHING to do with this This is about being ready, prepared, the right personality, having people skills, understanding women, knowing how to interact with people, knowing how to build relationships I wanted a girl that was funny, intelligent, cheeky and sexy... mine has all of that in abundance" WHAT A LOAD OF BOLLOX, YOU'RE NOT ONE FOR BLOWING SMOKE UP YOUR OWN ARSE ARE YOU ... MUCH, AUSSIE? YOU'VE GOT ONE HELL OF A LOT TO LEARN, YOU DECLARE TO BE IN LOVE WITH A LADY YOU HAVEN'T EVEN MET!!! THE EARLY FSU DATING VENTURERS HAD A SAYING "NEVER FALL IN LOVE WITH A PHOTOGRAPH" ... WELL TECHNOLOGY HAS MOVED ON AND YOU'VE ALLOWED YOURSELF TO FALL IN LOVE WITH A WEBCAM GIRL! WOULD YOU LIKE US TO TRY AND EXPLAIN A LITTLE MORE OR BETTER ... ESPECIALLY FOR THE SLOW ONE(S) IN THE GROUP? ... :) This forum gets funnier and funnier :) smart a Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/12/2012 8:09:12 PM   Aussie, Learn Russian langauge, so you'll know what is being said around you. Cheers! AussieInLove Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/12/2012 10:32:09 PM   Rag'n'bull.. .you haven;t yet seen my next post... I am simply pointing out why people like me succeed in life and in this.. and why people like you FAIL MISERABLY... Because people like me (see description above so you really understand) women from anywhere in the world actually want to be with... Where as people like you and Lonely women from ANYWHERE in the world would run from at a million miles an hour... But you guys are too thick to understand all this... You think you can spend money and buy your bride... You still haven't worked out it is you (physically and emotionally) that they do not want... your money.. well that is useful.. but YOU... no way on earth...!!! If I have a lot to learn, which I do, (I am only young after all unlike you losers) I will CERTAINLY NOT be learning it from anyone on here...!!! Have you EVER stopped to think why it is that ONLY you failures sit here and criticise, abuse, threaten, call names, swear, at people like me? because intelligent people, people that succeed in this are a threat to you... If I succeed where you have failed then that ONLY PROVES how big a failure you guys are in life... You are a waste of time space and energy... all of you.. !!! with the exception of one or 2 intelligent people on here this whole forum is a waste of time space and energy... the only thing that is surprising is how a couple of weeks ago I thought that maybe you guys could help me... Now there is one mistake I will never repeat... In 2 years... I will be happy... In 2 years... you will still be here, lonely, bitter, scammed losers abusing the next person to come along... In 10 years... nothing will have changed... because losers like you do not understand the importance of learning and changing... You go down the she path over and over again... you repeat the same things over and over again... The definition of insanity, as many of you people should know by now, is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result...!!! Rag'n'Bull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/13/2012 2:13:21 AM   AussieInLove, Sticks and Stones and all that ... I was sitting with my Aussie neighbour last evening, as he called to his Filipina wife "Where did those Pommie guys go" I just burst out laughing joking with him "You mean where did those English gentlemen go", it was so funny, he had temporarily forgotten my nationality. :) Excuse me for correcting you and your 'know it all' attitude, other forum members that have been around longer than five minutes are fully aware that I have been living with a beautiful, both inside and out, lady of approximately half my age since early January of this year and as each day passes we grow stroger and closer with each other ... and we just happen to be developing our own business on this tropical paradise of a Pacific island, I just frequent this forum to chat with old acquaintances and/or have a laugh when imbeciles like you pop along ..... "Oh, I'm in love with someone whom I have never met, please try to take me seriously guys". :) Cut the "My love is to be from Ukraine" bullshit, you investigated and learned that of most of the USSR countries Ukraine is the one significant country where you don't need a visa to travel to, you can get there lazier and/or cheaper than the other USSR countries and that, alone, is the reason why you have selected Ukraine. Have you ever been to any of the former USSR countries Aussie or are you like a former forum member of your country, Aussieman41, who learned everything he knew of the USSR by reading about it and/or googling? And of course I hadn't seen your next post that you hadn't yet posted you fucking idiot! :) Please keep up the good work 'AussieInLove', we haven't had such an imbecile as you around the forum since the likes of Aussieman41, MIKE00 and/or Nooga ... all of which happen to hail from Australia lonelyranger1701 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/13/2012 2:43:57 AM   Aussie/D-2,, IF YOU SUCCEEDED AT EVERYTHING IN LIFE, YOU WOULD NOT BE HERE! NO ONE SUCCEEDS AT EVERYTHING. THEY ONLY SAY THEY DO! BELIEVE IT OR NOT, MANY MORE PEOPLE TRIED TO HELP YOU THAN YOU REALIZE!!! BUT YOU ARE IGNORANT! YOU CAN ONLY HAVE LUST OR INFATUATION ONLINE, YOU CAN NOT TRULY LOVE SOMEONE FROM A VIEWSCREEN. BUT SOMEONE CAN TRULY LIE OVER THE INTERNET!! WOMEN LIE! AGENCIES LIE! MAYBE YOU WILL LEARN?? YOUR PLAN IS TO GIVE HER NOTHING???? I THOUGHT YOU AGREED WITH APAL?? REMEMBER,,,,, APAL IS NOT MARRIED YET EITHER!!! BECAUSE YOU HEARD THAT WE GAVE WOMEN THINGS OR MONEY, IT IS YOUR PLAN TO DO THE OPPOSITE??? YOUR MOUTH OPERATES FASTER THAN YOUR BRAIN, THAT’S WHY EVERYONE IS CRAPPING ON YOU!! I THOUGHT YOU WERE A FAST LEARNER??? WHO SAID WE DO THE SAME THINGS OVER AND OVER?? HAS D-1 BEEN TALKING TO YOU?? COULD HE BE USING YOU??? IF YOU WANT TO GET THROUGH YOUR MESS IN ONE PIECE, FOLLOW MY ADVICE. 1st TAKE AN ASPIRIN EVERYDAY,,,, YOU SEEM TO NEED IT! LEAVE YOUR EGO BEHIND, IT WILL GET YOU FxxKED UP!! TREAT YOUR GIRL LIKE A PERSON, NOT A PIECE OF PROPERTY! FORGET EVERYTHING D-1 HAS TOLD YOU! PEOPLE COMMIT SUICIDE AROUND HIM! CONFIDENCE IS GOOD AND VALUED BY FSU WOMEN, ARROGANCE IS CONSIDERED (UGLY)!!! WE SIT HERE AND CRITICIZE MORONS!!! YES, WE SPENT A LOT OF TIME ON YOU!!!!! WHEN DOES THE IGNORING BEGIN?? JayH Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/13/2012 4:57:16 AM   Rag'n'Bull--mmm-- stick and stones and ivory castles- I have no idea why you aim so much vitriol in your posts-- and I do not care-- but-- why bother? Your tilts at Australians are tedious,ignorant-ridiculous.No more comment on that nonsense from me. Specifically what incited me to write is a piece of ignorance in the post above--Australian Passport Holders do need a visa to visit Ukraine-- and is a painfull ,inconvenient,time consuming,costly exercise . Not sure if I am reading your situation correctly or not-- a UK passport holder who also has Australian Passport(ie residency) will still need a a visa to enter Ukraine--even as a a tourist..Before everyone starts to state the obvious--please read the above words again.That is exactly how it was interpreted in entry attempt-- based on concept that place of residence is nationality-- and Ukraine non recognition of dual nationality. Aus-in-L -- I am genuinely interested to hear the details of your adventure and the outcome-- I love hearing of good outcomes-- and we all learn from both good and not so good results. apal1 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/13/2012 12:57:51 PM   Good luck Aussie. Don't worry about these guys. A lot have had bad experienes. Some have had unrealistic expectations and tried to meet the young beautiful girl who was out of their league and didn't like being made the fool. Some try to give advice based on their own experiences. I have actually met more than one or two or ten girls who explained to me their own difficulties meeting a nice guy from the agencies... I will list their problems: #1) Most men are very old who come to the agencies. #2) Most of the men who join the agencies are not attractive #3) Most are cheap and those who aren't think that their $50,000 a year job makes them akin to a millionaire in the FSU. #4) Most have no social tact, rude and crude. #5) Most men in the agencies just want to talk about sex all the time and are not sincere. #6) Men that visit want sex and to play games. Some are even married. #7) Men rarely visit that they have written and do like. #8) Men stop writing and give up, because of all the BAD BLACK PR that comes about from when we meet the beautiful gorgeous playboy playmate model and doesn't show up to the meeting or the meeting goes bad. or the guy tries to impress the girl by buying her gifts and she was a scammer/schemer girl. If you don't pay attention and give the girl credit and play on her or you fit any of #1-8, well you encourage the bad in the agency from the agency girls' point of view. If you are: #1) Sincere and decent looking and take care of yourself. #2) Make very good money to support a girl. Not one agency girl I ever met said she'd like to marry a poor man, even if she was highly attracted to him. That is why they joined the agency to find a better life. Else they will stick to finding the attractive FSU men. That is about as realistic an argument as one can make. #3) In good to great physical form (muscular, healthy, etc.) #4) Not overly old for a young girl. Realistic? I never met a 18-25 year old who would consider marrying someone over 55 years. A 2-5 age gap is extremely lucky for the girl, 6-10 is normal, 12-20 is rare, 21+ years age difference is extremely rare but occurs if there is lots of trust, sincerity, support and attraction. I am sorry that I make others think I come across as arrogant. I don't tolerate fools who give others advice, when they don't have what it takes to find the quality women and go to FSU 10-30 times with no luck. You would take advice from a gold prospector who has never found an ounce of gold, but is giving you advice? Really? Or are you also going to listen to other prospectors who failed and gave up? Sure there were miners like that who left Klondike, Eureka and San Francisco during the age who gave up too. Or would you want to hear the real life story of someone who didn't give up and gave you all the tips on how he came up with the motherlode, telling you advice on how to get more, because he seen more gold there, but didn't get greedy? Your choice. When you follow advice here, listen to these guys advice who succeeded, not the advice of those who failed. Some of you get pissed at Nasfan, sure he's strong-minded as I am, but he succeeded. So don't throw good advice out the window. JayH Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/13/2012 8:45:07 PM   Apal-- you have nailed some excellent points again. #9 should be-- guys that have no intention to ever go and actually meet in person. Being a skillfull attentive writer may get a girls attention on the internet-- but if you fail too many of Apals tests-- time to get honest with yourself. The issue with forums like this seems to me( I have only recently posted here-- but have read from time to time over the last few years) that there seems to be a lot of rubbish directed between some posters-- I wonder why they bother to do that-- nobody cares . Forum can be a usefull tool to assist those with the benefit of advice from experiences of others. Not wishing to blow too much smoke in Apal1 direction--- he has gone to the trouble to write some very good advice-- gained from his own journey. For me-- I have so much in common with what he says it is incredible series of co-incidences and attitudes. I also got close to a lady-- argued,went different directions and somehow came together again.When I look at this-- it is not unusual in normal life-- so why is it any different just beacause we are seperated by 1/2 the world.In effect-- we now have a "normal" relationship.None of it has been easy!! There are still some big hurdles to overcome. Rag'n'Bull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/13/2012 11:38:57 PM   Apal1, How many of your more than one, two or ten girls got naked on webcam(s) to guy(s) that they have never met? Just asking :) lonelyranger1701 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/14/2012 1:00:57 AM   Apal, who are you referring to?? Rag N bull is on an island with his girl right now! I have seen them,,, she’s cute!! Who has gone there 10 to 30 times and failed???? Who? Have you asked me how many times I have been there? Maybe you did ask and I just missed it in all of the spam on the site. I don’t remember telling you how many times I have been there either!!! Apal,, you have what it takes?? You have succeeded?? You are married??!!! I must have missed that! I thought you were only engaged,,,, well congratulations!!!! Did you save me a piece of cake?? Do you have photos of this joyous occasion!!! You will cherish them forever!!!! I keep mine in the wedding photo album! Oh,,, did you miss a memo???? You didn’t know??? Do “I” even consider my own marriage a success???? NO! apal1 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/14/2012 1:05:41 AM   3 or 4 but just panties and stripper dances. Told my fiance about them. apal1 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/14/2012 1:07:17 AM   Did have one girl who really tried hard to have me meet her. Each time we chatted she would do her sexy dance. She was really sincere. So what are u actually asking? lonelyranger1701 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/14/2012 1:08:34 AM   Watching webcams while engaged?? The guy must have real class!!!! LMFAO,,,, NOT!!! Rag'n'Bull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/14/2012 2:25:48 AM   Funny ..... I'm on an island furnished with scantily clad women and some guys need to get their thrills from watching it on webcam. lonelyranger1701 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/14/2012 2:32:08 AM   Rag N Bull,,,,, but how many of the girls on your island, still have their; “Do not lose for anyone other than Apal-stay fresh seal????” lonelyranger1701 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/14/2012 2:56:15 AM   suc·cess [sək séss] (plural suc·cess·es) n 1. achievement of intention: the achievement of something planned or attempted Your Reply: Your name:   New Registration Password:   Forgot password?   refresh Code:   Russian brides > Main Forum > This was fun while it lasted but no more ... Thanks...
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