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	Create New Topic   My Posts   My forum buddies   Invite friends   Private messages Russian brides > Main Forum > Russian Women and Men to be Banned from Talking to Foreigners on the Orders of Dictator Putin Author Post dcv Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/14/2012 3:50:40 PM   New Law in Russia-There goes the Foreign Brides business... http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2232949/Back-dark-old-days-Putin-brings- law-makes-treason-talk-foreigner.html Rick4girl Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/14/2012 5:51:20 PM   Much to do about nothing. This is what happens after years of American interference and attempts to undermine the Kremlin. Groups like Golos that were heavily funded by the US spent millions of dollars trying to influence the last presidential elections. blu_craze Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/14/2012 11:04:53 PM   Has nothing to do with foreign brides and such, unless the bride to be knows any top secret information, then she is fukt. Also anybody who bads mouths Obama's homeboy Putin. durak Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/15/2012 1:40:31 AM   @dcv: The article has a (typically) sensational headline. But the text also says, "The legislation allows Russians representing international organisations to be charged with treason, as well as those working for foreign states and bodies, and expands the range of actions that can be considered treasonous." I suppose this could be interpreted to include employees of dating firms, IF those firms are international (as opposed to purely Russian), and IF the government decided that they somehow were working against Russia's national interest. But it's not obvious that the law would be used against marriage agencies. In any case, it would not apply to individual men and women meeting for personal reasons! If Russia made the maximum application of this dreadful, vague law, it would have an exceedingly chilly effect on Russia's business relations with other countries, at heavy economic cost to Russia. But this law (and other repressive moves made by the Putin regime) are a tragedy for Russia. I predict that the practical effect will be improve the dating picture for us: the amazingly large percentage of Russians who want to leave the country will only increase. @blu_craze: George W. Bush said of Putin: "I looked the man in the eye. I found him to be very straight forward and trustworthy and we had a very good dialog. I was able to get a sense of his soul. He's a man deeply committed to his country and the best interests of his country and I appreciate very much the frank dialog and that's the beginning of a very constructive relationship." Whose homeboy? lonelyranger1701 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/15/2012 2:26:50 AM   In the short term this will be a very bad thing for Russia. But long term,,,,,, perhaps someone with a first-middle and last name will become famous over there??!!! It’s way overdue!! Hopefully this will become a lesson for the Russian people,,,, they suffered under the Iron fist of Stalin, communism, and the KGB,,,, then,, they elect someone who worked for it proudly! Durak,,, I don’t remember that quote from Bush,,, but as I read it,, it seems to me, something a person would say to back another person off?! (I’ve said great things about you,,,,,, don’t embarrass yourself in front of the world?!!!!) I’ve said on here many times, that I will never return to Russia,,, this is one reason why! They are NOT our friends in the world! It would be in everyone’s best interest to boycott Russia,,, and wait for sanity to set back in! jetmba. Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/15/2012 6:20:51 AM   Not to inject too much politics into this forum, but I remind everyone that under the new NDAA (National Defense Authorization Act), the President, through the military has the right to hold indefinitely (in prison) anyone acting against the US government, without charge, evidence or trial (due process). This unprecedented new power flies completely against the due process clause of the Constitution but Obama's attorney are arguing that it is neccessary. It doesn't seem that the new Russian law has anything on NDAA. And America is moving the same way. blu_craze Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/15/2012 3:19:44 PM   Bush did say that, but then Bush was not good with words and was doing what he though would improve relations with Russia. On the other hand Obama in his first time was accidentally recorded saying to Medevdev that in his next term they can accomplish something, and then Medevdev said he will pass that word to Putin who even before elections knew he was going to be replaced by him. American leadership and the Russian leadership are working together and pretending not to and this might or might now be part of that, but it seems eerily close to the Patriot Act and NDAA, only if both act to take away freedoms slowly bit by bit. I believe this is just a small fraction of a much larger plan and it is not just America and Russia, lucky in America we have a divided Congress and White House, thank GOD!!! ragingbull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/15/2012 3:42:44 PM   What Obama and Russia can accomplish, as Obama was recorded as saying is to reduce the missiles to shoot down the Russian missiles aimed at Europe. Obama is scheduled to go to Russia, Putin says. I believe he will make concessions. jetmba. Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/15/2012 10:00:35 PM   " lucky in America we have a divided Congress and White House, thank GOD!!!" We had a divided Congress and White House when NDAA was passed, by a wide margin, too. And divided government or not - it is now the law of the land. blu_craze Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/15/2012 10:15:08 PM   Its not a perfect world. If Congress passes a law it has a chance of never getting the Presidents attention and he will sign it or not based on his feelings that day, he is just a single man, and he did not veto it so it passed. Congress on the other hand will scrutinize anything coming from the President, and we need that buffer. lonelyranger1701 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/16/2012 1:07:56 AM   When I say that Russia needs to change,,, it doesn’t mean that America doesn’t need to change also. Why did they call it “The Patriot Act” ?? Because if you’re not for it,,,, you’re not a Patriot?! Bullshit!!! Who was it that said; If you are willing to give up one freedom,,, you deserve none. Or similar. We need to change the way campaigns operate in this country. No outside money, and limits on how much any one corporation or person can give. We need to change the voting laws too,,, new citizens should need to wait at least 4 years before they can vote, so that a flood of emigrants can’t sway the results of our elections. I can almost understand Putin’s desire to curb outside influences,,, but making it treason if their people talk?? Bolshevik!!! jetmba. Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/17/2012 10:17:03 AM   Stalin, Hitler and many dictators all over the world, past and present, have been able to do in their enemies, or any opposition, by simply declaring those people to be "enemies of the state". No questions asked. Enemies could simply disappear. They could be held indefinitely. Or they could be killed, with no charge, evidence, trial or any sort of due process whatsoever. Well "enemies of the state" is far too much of a Cold War term. We don't use it anymore. Today we simply declare those people as "terrorists" and it means exactly the same thing. Under the Patriot Act" and NDAA - those people, even American citizens on American soil, can be killed or indefinitely detained, without charge, evidence, trial or any sort of due process at all. Never before has a President sat down with two of his "National Security Advisors" as scheduled on Tuesday mornings, to establish his "Kill List" for that week of people who are to be assassinated without any sort of due process at all. And this is not conspiracy theory. The Justice Department admits this right up from. We are living in dangerous times. blu_craze Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/17/2012 8:29:32 PM   My thing is both the NDAA and the new Russian law passed with both laws being scrutinized by both countries, both Presidents "said" they would look into it and fix the holes in them, yet both passed it without changing it or looking at it... coincidence? Maybe the globalist theorist have something here, this is right in your face! Even my girl is brainwashed into thinking a little loss of freedom is worth the security,...and I hope that is all it is to give the governments more room and a little bureaucratic red tape, but on the flip side of that another leader latter on in life will have full reign to abuse it. And that I think is truly the long term goal of these laws, we wont see any change in this but bet are children will! Regardless though hopefully in a year I will be ready to move my girl here to the states, that way I can start saving (with her help) and we can both move elsewhere, at least she is open to that!!! ragingbull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/17/2012 9:44:30 PM   The quote by Benjamin Franklin is: "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither safety nor liberty." I believe the Patriot Act has prevented many terrorist acts on US soil. When they are caught, they have not caused much damage and therefore not much news coverage. I looked up Patriot Act just to refresh my memory. It has prevented terrorists, among other things to participate in the world financial markets. I don't believe there is much detaining or killing of US citizens without evidence or trial. My issue with Russia is why they have those missiles pointed towards Western Europe in the first place. I had a problem understanding peace through strength in my younger days. But, President Reagan demonstrated it very well by responding to Soviet arms expansion with expansions of our own. That helped the Soviet collapse. When Obama is through, those missiles will still be pointed towards Western Europe, but we will have no missiles to shoot them down. I hope I am wrong. Rick4girl Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/18/2012 12:38:14 AM   Our congress just passed a repeal of Jackson-Vanik but then put a provision to restrict alleged human rights violators...whatever THAT means. All they did was succeed in straining relations even more. Rag'n'Bull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/18/2012 4:56:14 AM   USA and Russia regularly, perhaps daily, test each others air defences with, so called, military exercises but it's merely "playing the game". During the 9/11 incidents, when much of the US Air Force was airborne, the White House/Pentagon thought they'd better contact Moscow just to let them know what was going on and that they weren't airborne to threaten Russia. As they phoned Moscow the Russian's reply was "Yes, we're watching you and we've already cancelled our exercises for today" ... That would have been opportunity for Russia to really test US air defences had they wanted to! Like a few years ago, and on a number of occasions over the years, UK has found it's air defences being tested by Russia's TU-95 bombers ... does one really think they're going to bomb the UK? ... No, they're just "playing the game". Shoot down nuclear warheaded missiles over Europe, have nukes exploding in midair spreading the fallout, by the upper winds, even further than a mushroom cloud would? If one side launches nukes then the other side launches nukes and nobody wins, everybody loses, so what's the point? Over the years USA has earned a reputation, so to speak, of being an international bully, not my personal opinion but a general opinion. Last year, as an example, France & UK, on the face of it, led the attacks on Libya whilst, on the face of it, Obama and USA were taking a back seat. Well who the phuck fired off, most if not all of, those 100+ Tomahawk missiles on the first night because it certainly wasn't France and/or UK, of course the USA were heavily involved in it but give credit where credit is due that Obama tries to take a back seat rather than play the international bully. ragingbull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/18/2012 11:02:22 AM   Taking our missiles away to shoot down theirs leaves Europe with no defenses. At least the Russians do not have control of who and where to shoot if the missiles are shot down. They too can worry about the fallout because it might be close to Russian soil. The question should not be whether or not the west will take the missiles down. It should be both the west and Russians taking all of the missiles down. Again I hope I am wrong, but Obama is about to take the missiles down without Russian concessions. Take a back seat is fine, as long as we, the US still have the strength to defend ourselves in which we are still capable of. You are either in it or out of it. If we, the are going to be anywhere at all, we should at least have the necessary means to defend ourselves. ragingbull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/18/2012 11:14:12 AM   Obama is quiet so far on Israel. It is looking more and more that he said he was pro-Israel just to get votes. smart a Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/18/2012 3:52:28 PM   Hey Martin ( rag'n'bull ) If Putin had placed those orders in about 10 years ago, look at the money and misery it would have saved you and jetmba and Lonelyranger1701. Ha,ha,ha,ha, durak Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/19/2012 11:28:39 AM   A story from Russia, about the process in action: http://latitude.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/11/19/kremlin-pressure-o n-a-russian-american-ngo/ As usual, edit out any spaces this forum may have added to the URL Your Reply: Your name:   New Registration Password:   Forgot password?   refresh Code:   Russian brides > Main Forum > Russian Women and Men to be Banned from Talking to Foreigners on the Orders of Dictator Putin
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