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	Create New Topic   My Posts   My forum buddies   Invite friends   Private messages Russian brides > Main Forum > Success Rate Author Post blu_craze Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/28/2012 5:54:15 PM   Just wondering what the success rate for men finding women in the FSU and it actually working to a long term relationship? Well, I was premature about my girl, she flaked out, but being a bitch it wasn't unexpected. I swear it seems like there is only a 1 in a 100 chance it will work out, once you filter out all the scammers, then all the girls that go crazy on the rag each month, the ones that get cold feet, and then lastly the ones just looking for men to take them to dinner and spoil them for a little while what is left????? 10,000 man and maybe 500 genuine women? Well I'm just saying out of pure curiosity and maybe a little frustration. But I can say one thing, that is my second and last Russian I am fooling with, there like cold blooded lizards in my eyes, the damage is done and my mind is closed. In a year or so I'll start my trips to Argentina and Peru, I dated a Mexican girl several years ago and love there culture!!! Well good luck fellas!!! moyarishka Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/28/2012 6:22:59 PM   What are the chances of working out with US woman? 1 in a 1000? 1 in a mln? lonelyranger1701 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/28/2012 6:26:39 PM   It’s not easy to stay positive about something that only has a 1% success rate! beemer18 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/28/2012 7:12:08 PM   This was 10 days ago...... "After chasing this damned girl for 6 years she is finally fine ;))) Persistence pays off!!!! Shes flying here in March. Its funny how things work out, I was dating a Russian girl I met at Bush Gardens in Williamsburg, when I got back to the states from a 7 month Navy deployment she told me about myspace (before there was a public facebook), was amazed I never heard about it, well I was just curious and browsing around and saw a girl that went to the same beach concert as me and struck a friendship, as at the time we both were dating someone. We are always drawn to each other, over and over again, we both at points tried to give each other up, but it never works, time and distance was just never ever right. But now in the stages of life we are in now it just clicked, all the language barriers torn down and true understanding at last attained,...we are not just friends obviously, duh I like you, duh you like me. And I know her as a person, from the time she was 21 to 27 we have communicated and watched each other mature over that time. I like how she puts so little faith in material things, money, etc. how she is willing to leave anywhere, or me go there for that matter if need be. How she has her masters degree and still willing to go back to school to learn more,...a smart cookie, all the other little things. Well thats my ramblings, I am just finally happy to have my soul mate on board, somehow I always knew it would happen eventually, even in are separate relationships I knew that they would not work for either of us and I never let go, I am glad I didn't!" The best laid plans of mice and men....how does that go??? I have heard stories like this....where everything is peachy-keen and all of a sudden boom.....just goes to show, do we really what is happening???? ragingbull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/28/2012 7:59:10 PM   There are also success stories. How about wishing him well, rather than this negative stuff, Beemer? jonas Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/28/2012 8:13:42 PM   I was found by a girl from Kherson in facebook, she met me in the most important and "honest" marriage agencies locally. From her I learned about how this places make money... The girl who translates the letters are constantly insisting the girls to continue communication with old guys, I can tell you guys that 99% of these girls are not interested in men 10 years older. She told me some of her friends were using the agency to get gifts for clients, they have local boyfriends since long time ago... I sent evidence to the agency and they said "we are not against girls with local boyfriends, they just need to be single". The girl I meet doesn't speak very good english but she was able to have a conversation... however the agency includes all time the interpreter. I spent months and months of conversation by skype, she added me to facebook, she use to woke up in the middle of the night to speak with me. She use to go to internet clubs when she has no internet in her house. I never sent money, when I arrived to Odessa she was waiting for me, she bought me the SIM for my telephone. She spent all month I was there with me, even the nights. We rent a 2 rooms apartment in the center of Kherson, we also traveled to Odessa, Kiev and Lviv. We always used the train and the public transportation... even in Kiev and Lviv... they only time we had to use the taxi it was on Odessa, it was very cold and after my constantly insistence she accepted to use them. I meet the family, I ate probably 90% of times in her house, her mother cooked for me all times. I spent time with the brother in law and her ex wife (her sister). This was a really god man who use to stay 9 or more months in the sea for work... but as soon as he has time he was spending quality time with his son.. he was abandon by his wife (my ex girlfriend sister)... this girl is now workin in France... nobody know what she does but she has constantly pictures in beaches an night events. I met the friends, we went to karaokes, cafes and restaurants. I never payed for all, excepted when I invited the family to dinner. I traveled to a village 2 hours from there to meet the grandparents, we took a really old bus and then we walked a lot. The grandmother was waiting for me, once she saw me she was very happy and constantly touching my face, my eyes and all... she has a very big table with many food. After some hours of conversation she brought the pictures and show me all the family, she also showed me my letters translated to ukranian. My ex girlfriend spend the last night in the airport, my flight was at 4:00 am in Odessa, she stayed with me in the airport in a really inconfortable chair all night. We say goodbye while she was constantly crying. She was going to come to my country, but 2 months after I came back from Ukraine she decided not to come. She told me very stupid excuses of things that I asked her previously... I lost the airline tickets of she and her son. Around 2500 dlls. Some days later I knew she has a local boyfriend... when I talked her for last time she admitted it... Why I tell all this history? Because I feel very bad about how most of men here are cheated... I know horror histories about girls that go to America just to get all the money of old men. I'm 31 I'm in shape I speak some Russian I'm very lucky with woman, even when I was in Ukraine 2 girls asked me for my telephone in the street... and even that I was scammed. So for all those who think that Ukraine is a place to find the love... well... is not. For all those who are 50 years and are looking for a 20 years old hot girl... nevermind. It wont happend. And if you base your attractive on money you will only loose money and wont get anything from a girl because they dont care about you. Ukranian guys don't consume more alcohol than girls... in fact, is easier to see girls drunk in a nightclub than man. Ukranian guys are not cheaters... not more than their girls. Ukranian girls has internet, computers and all this things agencies tell you they have no access to. Ukranian girls are not interested in old man, no matter how many times you read about that, is not true. Rick4girl Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/28/2012 10:03:24 PM   Ok guys, I can be honest? For many it really is an exercise in futility. While Ive personally seen many successful FSU girl-western men relationships do well its simply not the rule. The average guy WILL fail in this quest to marry a slavic girl. There are a myriad of reasons why. The most common reason is that most men with this dream simply cant afford it. Getting a wife from the FSU isnt cheap. The successful men will often spend $50-100k in this quest. If you make 40k or less per year then reality says its only possible in EXTREME cases. If you can only afford to visit the country once or twice per year then please, just save your money, its NOT gonna happen. Whether its a girl in your country or abroad, the ability to spend time together to develop a genuine relationship is paramount and once or twice per year isnt gonna get it done. Secondly, why on earth would an FSU girl come to your country only to struggle when she can do the same in her own country and not have to fuck you? They may wish to work in your country but they sure as hell dont want to be involved in your daily struggle to pay your bills. Most girls are willing to work to enhance your lifestyle together such as traveling, eating out, etc but not giving you her paycheck to pay the rent. If you cant spend time in her country, learn her language, customs and traditions and give her a good reason to trust you will take care of her if she leaves everything she knows and travel 5000 miles, then why should she waste her time with you? She will think she is making all the effort, sacrifices and doing all the work in the relationship. Everything Ive just mentioned is just what happens AFTER you find a girl. TO meet a girl you will have to make multiple trips, spend money on dates with different girls and impress her when you go out. This may come as a shock to some of you but these things cost money because odds are you will date several to find the right one...just like at home(gasp) All this being said, the simple truth comes down to this. these girls dont want a brokey-broke. There is plenty of those in their own country and their dick is bigger than yours so dont think you will impress them that way either. Chances are very good they've already had better than you sexually with local guys. Just because you are an American is inconsequential. You have to bring the total package. Be attractive. be successful in life and be confident in yourself and your ability to treat her better in all ways than what she has now. Have I offended anyone? I really dont give a fuq if I did but seems to me a reality check was badly needed here. You are NOT her savior. she doesnt NEED you but she needs to want you and spend her life with you. But isnt that how it is anywhere? the FSU is no different. lonelyranger1701 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/28/2012 10:56:17 PM   Blu, when you told your story 10 or so days ago, I thought it was a little far fetched but possible . The thing that stuck out in my mind was;,,,, why now/then?? What was so special about that week in a six year period?? With my ex,,, what’s on my mind the most is;; What is wrong with you?? If you/her don’t want to see me,,, tell me! If you never plan to marry me,,, tell me. If you want a future with me,,, why play such games? And if you are a scammer,,, why aren’t you doing a better job of scamming?? I’ve spent many nights thinking about this,,, and came up with;,, entertainment?? I think they get a big laugh from this! Play/fxxk with the poor fools life,, make him think he’s got a chance,,,, and watch him squirm! See how much he can take before he breaks!! Last year I posted a story that got pulled by the moderators,, the most polite words in it were;,, Cold blooded heartless bitxxes. durak Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/29/2012 3:13:21 AM   blu, I sorrow to read your news -- it seemed that you were close to finding the "real deal." It may be of little comfort, but you can be sure that you are not alone in your disappointment. Just a few months back, a younger-than-average man posting in this forum wrote about his high hopes -- quickly followed by crash-and-burn. I've taken my lumps more than once. When I read your words "like cold blooded lizards," it brought to my mind the lines from Yeats "cast a cold eye on life, on death..." There is an awesome quality to the detachment, hardness and cynicism I've seen in some women Over There -- as though their sentiments were dominated by calculation. Surely plenty of women have these qualities here in the West. But somehow, the way I experience such coldness in former Soviet countries has a more startling quality. As a friend from Russia and Ukraine once explained to me, in the USA you have an idea by the look of things when you go into a bad neighborhood -- in Russia, the bad and good neighborhoods can look alike, and a good neighborhood can turn bad quite suddenly. To respond directly to your question, I don't know what the statistics are, and I doubt that anyone has collected enough data to have an answer that's worth a damn. I reckon your number of 1 out of 100 isn't far from the mark, at least among first contacts -- the average man must go through a lot of them, to find the gold. And beemer asks the key question, "do we really [know] what is happening?" For myself (an admitted fool), I often "see what I believe" (like the Doobie Bros. song) -- so my challenge is to try to keep my feet on the ground, and be realistic -- not to let my hopes fog my glasses. I've notice that at least a couple of the men who have made successful marriages (at least, so far!) showed a decidedly unromantic turn of mind -- they were pretty businesslike and matter-of-fact about searching for a mate, and refused to use the "l-word" before marrying. This probably seems a strange attitude to most people in the West, but perhaps men who can "cast a cold eye" on the world of relationships are at less risk of falling into self-deception. paulx Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/29/2012 3:36:31 PM   Blu sorry to hear that . Hopefully then second attempt will work fine. I find more time you spend upfront to qualify and weeding the bad ones better are your chances of finding the right one. Be upfront to them what are your expectations and what you can deliver. That will weed out a lot. Btw where was she form russia/ukraine and what site did you use.? Don't give up. I heard good things about Peru. Has anyone noticed any differences in warmness.coldness for Ukraine vs Russian women. Is there any difference between the two or they are equally cold. Anyone..??? blu_craze Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/29/2012 9:46:12 PM   I think I am more disappointed that after six year of being friends and on and offs that when things became the way they were recently that it was the right time. Then she is in the middle of a mid life crises, goes crazy every time she has her period, and her mind is a mess, one minutes she happy as a flower and the next shes crying (bipolar) I guess. I guess I fall under Einsteins definition of insanity. I keep putting my hand in the fire expecting a different result but getting burned over and over. Maybe its time to look elsewhere, from my experience Latin girls are very traditional with great family values, and the food is excellent ;))) While I believe the fundamental aspects of people are the same, the Russian culture tends to lean more on the stern side and none of the Russians girls I met are really close to there family, sure they love each other, and they will meet, but they can do with out each other all the same. Almost like it is here in the West but a little more severe there. They do not have traditions like Thanksgiving, and Christmas dinners the eat meals on Holiday but its the same meal they eat every night, nothing special, its just shows a side to that its just not important to them. I just need a culture that fits my personality, and it is a personal choice, but I think Latin America has more to offer. They celebrate everything!! And family is always around for support and company, nothing is asked or expected of you. Hope I am not offending no body, a Russian woman is good for some, an Asian for others, or Latina for me ;) I have dated all and for some reason always fallin for the Russian girls even though they were two of the worst relationships I have ever been in hands down. Well, good luck to all of you guys. kaiserdag Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/29/2012 11:46:22 PM   Just to share my success rate, Within the past 2 month since a find out about Fiance.com I am 0 out of 50+ girls I have exchanged letters only. I did not incur in video chatting. I ask them to contact me on other venues with little to none success. This is how I know if there are not serious or not. I had more success connecting and video chatting with them on another dating site before. After we got the basics and more, I went to meet her for over a week. Since I live in Germany is only a 2 hrs. flight to KBP. She was for real, but we did not close the deal. So we move on. I would have greater success with Latin girls,( I am Latino) and Latin girls are as beautiful as Eastern European girls, but I am not going to be dating in American continent while I am living in Europe. I can say that I am familiar with FSU girls, after working and living in Ukraine. I have pick up a little Russian and Ukraine and recommend learning Russian regardless. Since English is not as abundant as compared to Western Europe I agree with Duak …”I've notice that at least a couple of the men who have made successful marriages (at least, so far!) showed a decidedly unromantic turn of mind -- they were pretty businesslike and matter-of-fact about searching for a mate, and refused to use the "l-word" before marrying. This probably seems a strange attitude to most people in the West, but perhaps men who can "cast a cold eye" on the world of relationships are at less risk of falling into self-deception.” I do not and nor a woman will spends months or years to close the deal. I am not in my 20’s to feel in-love to settle down again. There is risks and rewards. moyarishka Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/30/2012 4:48:17 AM   hmmm when I've read danny's post I understood that I'm almost american girl :) and FYI almost all ukrainian girls I know are like those americans danny discribed :) those russian girls he discribed were living in 19th century :) GeminiDreams Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/30/2012 8:20:54 AM   4.5 years of marriage 8 years of relationship, 29 years age difference. She is attractive im unfit and overweight. She is moving out to Australia in Feb. Just telling all you guys out there that dreams can come true. Do what suits you and dont listen to the whingers. kiwinorth Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/1/2012 4:40:37 PM   jonas, i dont know if you really are been fear to her, the whole point of getting together is to see if you two are a good match. one would hope both or at least one of you can be realistic enough to look at each other to see if you two are a good match. its a bugger for you for sure with all the effort you went to,, but hey so have i spent so many months in russia with a girl her family the tears and then us having to be honest with each other that we may not be the best match, that was terrible. some people would rather not go though that type of honesty for it is gut wrenching stuff for some. be happy for her, if she was so good to you in those times give her your blessings for really been happy now. it isnt easy finding a partner anywhere,, its great the girl i was with is happy with her new russian man. they are thinking of visiting me in NZ in the near future,,,, i hope they do,, they better... some people are just not as strong in their minds as you are maybe jonas. those tears at the airport were probably a mix of many things?? lonelyranger1701 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/1/2012 10:04:53 PM   moyarishka,,, danny didn’t mention American girls,,, he’s Australian!! It’s best not to get the two mixed up,,,, it’s not polite!! lonelyranger1701 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/1/2012 10:13:00 PM   “4.5 years of marriage 8 years of relationship, 29 years age difference. She is attractive im unfit and overweight. She is moving out to Australia in Feb. Just telling all you guys out there that dreams can come true. Do what suits you and dont listen to the whingers.” GD,, can you explain this? What have been your living arrangements for the last 4.5 years?? The reason I ask this,,, is because red flags and warning sirens are going off all over the place for me. jonas Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/2/2012 1:24:12 PM   Incredible how many people here calls "successful marriage" when "their" girls are now in Ukraine... There are histories of girls who went to other countries and once there they just abandon their "husbands"... But nobody learns from others... some are just maso and likes to be scammed again and again... pretending get married with 20 years younger hot babes... lonelyranger1701 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/4/2012 12:58:36 AM   And danny’s parents always taught him to believe everything he hears on TV!!!!! GeminiDreams Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/4/2012 10:10:47 AM   LR i have generally worked 2 month on 1 month off rosters. Before marrying she lived in Kiev with parents. After marrying she spent some time with me in Africa, some time in Kiev, some breaks travelling, then six months in Brisbane together, a year in Almaty she is in Kiev now after we just spent 2 weeks in China, 6 weeks in Ulan Batar then 2 weeks in Thailand. We have done Thailand a few times, Hong Kong, Singapore, Canada, Seychelles, Paris, Dubai, Timbuktu, Guinea, Budapest, Australia a few times and in 3 weeks we are spending 3 weeks starting in Budapest and travelling through Slovenia, Austria, Italy and Croatia before she relocates to the Gold Coast. Exactly what are the warning signs? We are having too good a time? Your Reply: Your name:   New Registration Password:   Forgot password?   refresh Code:   Russian brides > Main Forum > Success Rate
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