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	Create New Topic   My Posts   My forum buddies   Invite friends   Private messages Russian brides > Main Forum > To challenge or not to challenge that is the question Author Post WIFESEEKER Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/30/2014 5:10:27 AM   I wonder what other members have done when they have 'discovered' something about their girl in the Internet that worries you or makes you suspect her or even just something innocent she had not told you about. If you tell her she may get angry at your lack of trust and that you have been investigating her. If you do not tell her, you will live forever with the thought that she may be a scammer or that she has a past she will not tell you about. For instance, with a girl, I found her in one of those low level scamming dating sites with her photos and a different name as well as a decription that was copied and pasted badly, it had been cut half way, probably because it did not fit the maximum number of words in the box. Even her age was wrong, it said she was 41 with the photos of her that were taken when she was 23. I told her about this and she was very upset about it, she told me that she never put that profile, that she could not access the website and asked me to tell the administrators to get it removed. I wrote to them, told them who she really was and asked for an explanation as to how her profile appeared. They did not reply, even to say that she did it. Then she told me, for the first time, that she had tried to work as a model and she attended a photo shoot where they took all these pctures and kept them. As it turned out, I started finding her pictures in websites and blogs with articles about foreign brides, sites where they just put pictures of pretty girls and cheapo foreign brides dating sites. She is very photogenic. I do not know if she got paid for the photos. I believed her on this one, mainly because I found nothing about her in scammer data bases and she has been in the dating site, I use, for several months. Scammers do not last very long in that site. I was lucky she did not get angry with me. TomZ Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/30/2014 6:15:26 PM   My x girlfriend was a model then she became a webcam girl. Most of these webcam girls will tell you they're from somewhere else (ie Amsterdam) but they're actually working out of web cam "houses" in St. Petersburg, Russia as my x gf was. Anyway I did the same thing as you and I was shocked to find her on webcam sites. Something she never told me she did till I confronted her. I also found her pic on numerous dating sites on their main page as kind of advertising. I wrote to them the same as you and they didn't respond. So this kind of stuff is not uncommon. Just like if someone does porn you can never get rid of it once it's out there. RodanTsunami Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/30/2014 9:05:13 PM   My lady had similar postings that she did not initiate and she and I had them removed. Don't worry about her getting angry. If she gets angry with you, you have your answer. It is identity theft and if she does not understand that without argument, you can find a dumb-ass in your own town. Tom Shea Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/31/2014 1:56:09 AM   I say to say nothing and just pay attention. My now wife was coming to meet me in the Dominican republic. It required her to spend a night in Moscow. She writes me and says she found a hotel for only 485 usd per night. I've never been to Moscow but that seemed steep to me. I checked Travelocity and found a 4 star hotel on the airport grounds for $185. I told her to just stay on the airport for $185... I got explained to me that i was an idiot for wanting to waste that much money rather than pay 485 hyvrina. It seems she used translation software and it translates the units incorrectly. After we were engaged I found her over at anastasiadate. I asked her and she said she knew nothing about it. I looked and the profile was word for word what her fiance.com listing was. I called and asked them to remove it. They didn't. I gave them 3 weeks. Then I called the BBB. 20 minutes later they called her and verified she wanted her profile removed. That's twice I could have easily jumped to conclusions but just watching silently cost you nothing WIFESEEKER Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/31/2014 6:14:15 AM   Yes, I would have to accept the fact that her pictures are going to stay in the Interent for an indefinite period of time and will continue to multiply. I think it is up to each man to decide what he will forgive his FSU girl for, just as the man has got a past (there can be nasty things in his past) that he should tell the girl about if there is going to be honesty in the relarionship. Then she can decide, too, if she can live with that. I have been telling my girl things about my past gradually. After all you do not want to put her off during the courting process but she has the right to know. I do not have these really nasty things in my past BTW. My girl has been honest and told me that, since her divorce, she has met a number of men who have 'treated her nicely' and spoilt her. I have to surmise that they were giving her presents and taking her to fancy places in return for the sex. It is up to me to decide if I can live with her past. I have told her I do not have the money to spoil her like that so she decides if she wants to settle down with me on that basis. At the same time, she tells me she is completely fed up with being lonely and not have a man to help her. At the moment she has been given notice to leave her flat and she has been frantically trying to find a new place to live, then she has to organise the move, etc. all around her job. That is where having a good husband is an advantage. I take it none of those men will come back to help her move her sofa. WIFESEEKER Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/31/2014 12:11:25 PM   Tom Shea, That is interesting. My girl is also in Anastasiadate. Everybody says it is a scamming site that writes the profiles and letters for the girls, many of whom do not even know they are in the site. I have not pressed my girl to tell me if she put that profile as, even if she did, she has the right to 'promote' herself in a number of dating sites, not just where I met her. Now, doing a bit of detective work, I believe she did not put the profile herself. They used her old photos from the model agency shoot. In those photos she has got blue eyes, when in reality her eyes are green. The site wrote that she has blue eyes as that is what they saw in the photos. She would not have said that. She told me they put blue contact lenses on her for the shoot. She is consistent in what she says about herself in the dating site where I met her, her Facebook account and to me. RodanTsunami Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/31/2014 10:13:29 PM   Keep in mind that these women do not have control of the postings on these sites. You never really know if you are writing directly to the woman of your interest or if they are being intercepted by the agency on a regular basis . You have to get direct contact before you have any chance of a relationship and it is not a relationship until you have met her and held her in your arms. lonelyranger1701 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/1/2014 1:19:25 AM   The photo shoots that many of these girls have taken are free, and performed by the agency or for the agency. But as we all know,,, nothing in life is truly free. On some of these sites,,, when you, men or women,,, upload a photo,, you are signing away your rights to it,,, and the site can use them any way they see fit! I have found photos right from dating profiles, that turned up on porn sites. Many of the photos taken today are porn,,, beyond risqué or erotic,,,,, and rather cheap! If you are searching for a girl with some morals, self conscious, self respect, or some dignity,,, you are searching in the wrong place. I’ve discovered some dirt on a few of my ex’s,,, when you ask them about it,,,, they either throw a tantrum, deny it,,, or come up with some half baked explanation. I’ve learned,, that when you find something,,, it ends up being just the tip of the iceberg. I think whether to forgive and forget is up to each man,,,, I’m not one that can. I don’t think a woman’s character improves after the wedding,,,,, if she slept around before marriage, she’ll do it after too. When it comes to photos online,,, I wonder if the agencies realize how much they FUXK UP a woman’s chances?? Just how many men are looking for a pole dancing bar rag??? Why would anyone ever consider dating/marrying a webcam girl? Most of these girls perform nude,,, and even play with toys to get men to part with their money. They have made a career out of scamming, misleading and deceiving men. Quite often, I see men here proclaiming their girl to be honest after just a few letters or a few skype sessions,,, or if they haven’t asked for money. I read the stories here and think,,,, if just one is right about their girl,,,, they have already beat the odds. But,,, it seems to be only a matter of time,,, and each one has a sad story to tell. It’s the stories I read here besides my own that keep me out of the hunt! WIFESEEKER Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/1/2014 8:52:53 AM   They showed a documentary about webcam girls in the UK. These girls are probably the most honest women working in the sex industry. It is the men who are stupid and want to throw their money at them. The girls do exactly what it says on the tin. They perform for money. They do not promise to come and have sex or ever meet the men they talk to. They will not give men VD when they say they are 'clean' (as many prostitutes do). They do not promise any kind of relationship. They do not take the man's money and then switch off the camera. Some girls charge ridiculous amonunts of money for what they do and a lot of men are more than willing to pay. As I remember, one was charging something like £200 to perform for a wealthy man for 30 minutes or so. The only way that you can judge these girls is from a 'religious' moral point of view. Is it 'moral' to do this? If they conceal that they did this in the past from a man they are to marry, is it wrong? Will a man tell a girl he is about to marry about every single prostitute he used and every sex show he attended? I think not. A man who used prostitutes is worse than a girl who performed sex without touching the men as he is a higher risk of carrying a nasty disease with him. When has an FSU girl asked a man she is talking to if he has been with prostitutes? Never is my guess. They have not even asked me how many girlfriends I have had. They do not want to know about other girls I have been talking to in the dating site. Now I have decided: my girl does not judge me, I do not judge her (unless she is a scammer). Next time I bring up the subject in a conversation, I will tell her: if she has had several boyfriends or even did nude modelling work, fine with me. lonelyranger1701 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/1/2014 7:15:50 PM   The amount of money I have spent on nude webcam is less than $20.00 The amount I plan to spend in the future: $0.00 Many of these girls follow a similar pattern,,, they start at an agency, write and chat for money! Want or need more money, so they start on the live cams,,, usually nude! When they are no longer,,,,,, errrrr,,, marketable,,,, they go in a downward spiral which will lead to prostitution. Some can become famous for their porn,,,,, and turn into stars,, but not many. “The only way that you can judge these girls is from a 'religious' moral point of view.” I’ve never understood why people connect morals with religion?! I’m not a religious person because the morals of most religions offends me! But that’s a long story not meant for here. One thing that seems to be true about all of the FSU women I’ve met and wrote to, is that they don’t want to talk about their past lives and relationships. I think it’s because it will only lead to trouble,,, or they are ashamed of it. I have been asked a few times about past relationships and if I was writing to others. I tell them the truth. “When has an FSU girl asked a man she is talking to if he has been with prostitutes?” I was,,, and it was in person,, not thru correspondence. “Now I have decided: my girl does not judge me, I do not judge her (unless she is a scammer). “ You have closed your mind to judging her,,, exactly what a scammer would want you to do. “I will tell her: if she has had several boyfriends or even did nude modelling work, fine with me.” To ease their conscious,, they will tell themselves that it is art and not porn! If YOU think it is art,,,, and not porn,,, post a link to this art for all of us to view???????? That’s a little different,,, isn’t it?? A webcam girl might be cleaner,,, but I don’t know how you could call it more honest. On a cam site,,, you buy your credits ahead of time,,, you don’t know how the show will be. Webcam video gets recorded and replayed over and over. 10 see it today,,, 100 this week, a thousand or more this month,,,, 100,000’s this year,, who knows how many people will see it??? Maybe your next door neighbor has seen it,,, or someone you work with,,,, maybe someone will recognize her. Would you want this “Art” on display where you work??? Sounds like a headache to me,,, but we are all different. And incase you missed this in my previous post: “I think whether to forgive and forget is up to each man,,,, I’m not one that can.” WIFESEEKER Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/2/2014 3:58:23 AM   My post was in reply to TomZ's post about his ex-girlfriend having a 'webcam past' Tom Shea Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/2/2014 1:09:48 PM   How to get your fiancees profile removed from Anastasiadate in 1 quick step. Send a complaint to the online BBB. They will have called her and you back and have her removed with in 24 hours. It works like a champ. kaiserdag Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/3/2014 3:45:15 AM   -----"I think whether to forgive and forget is up to each man,,,, I’m not one that can. I don’t think a woman’s character improves after the wedding,,,,, if she slept around before marriage, she’ll do it after too."-----Amen brother LR but who we are to judge! HMMM! if she sleeps with me before marriage, is ok! but if was decieved several times by some old baster should I conclude that she is a whore? lets not forget that a woman (even a scanner) will fallow you because you are meeting hers needs and spectations; not becuase of your looks, unless you look loike Brad Pitt. I know I don't.... poppy Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/3/2014 9:42:54 AM   so loony looks like a guy thats into whores ...... i guessed that a long time ago lonelyranger1701 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/3/2014 10:28:24 PM   K-dag,,, I think the key is how quickly or easily did she sleep with me?? The women that hopped into bed with me on the first night, hopped into bed with many others. And if you’re thinking that I hopped into that bed too,,,, yeah,,,, that’s true. I’ve had long and short relationships,,, but not many in between. No med term friends with benefits relationships. I guess I’m more confident with my own loyalty and faithfulness than that of someone else’s. WIFESEEKER Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/4/2014 7:46:30 AM   kaiserdag, Yes I really think that many men go around like paranoids about the previous life of the girl they are after without looking at their own past and thinking what the girl would do if she found out. I agree that men, especially the most self-righteous and paranoid are in no position to judge the past of many of these girls. As an analogy, remember that the most vociferous anti-gay men turn out to be gay themselves. Remember the self-righteous Edgar Hoover? Tutu and all? :-D The reality is also that men are not in a position to 'forgive' girls for their past like having had several boyfriends, having been nude models or web-cam girls, etc. Why? because the girls were not doing these things while they were in a relationship with the Western man. There is no offence to forgive them for. Another thing, there is a clear unfair imbalance in the access that each party has to information about the other one in the net. The Internet is full of scammer data bases, blogs, dating agencies and even detectives who will check out a girl for you. The girls have little or nothing to check any dirt on you other than your professional entries and Facebook homepage. Where would they be able to check if you have a criminal record, how you have treated women in the past, your use of prostitutes, drinking habits, etc.? They will never be able to afford a detective in the West to check you out. They go with what you tell them. I do not think they even bother to check if you are in Facebook with pictures of your wife and kids. However, maybe these girls should check men too, where they can. WIFESEEKER Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/4/2014 7:52:21 AM   Talking about going around getting my girl removed from other dating sites and blogs -even the one where I met her- I am not going to do it until we are engaged or deep in the relationship as it would make me look like I am already a mad jealous man trying to isolate her for myself. Tom Shea Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/4/2014 2:01:04 PM   I agree with that wifeseeker. I was speaking of after we were engaged and the documents were started to bring her here. That is when I located the profile. lonelyranger1701 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/5/2014 12:24:52 AM   Poopy/danny42/DUNT,,,,, no one is talking about whores here,,,, and I’m not searching for one, everybody here but you knows I’m searching for a good girl. There is a difference between whores and easy girls or extra friendly women. We were talking about women who sleep with men on the first dates, and/or before marriage. Are YOU calling them whores??!! If so,, you just insulted the women of every guy that has or had a sincere and genuine relationship. Since we’re talking about whores,,,, lets talk about your dead ex Irina,,, the 5 dollar BJ whore!!! Tell me danny,,, how much time had passed after you posted a BJ video online of you and your perfect match (an mentally ill woman) before she took her own life??? Have you remembered yet, whether you were on another continent when she died,,,, or holding her in your arms when she said: Oh danny,,,,, you’re the greatest!!!! How could I ever live without you- - - - - -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------- poppy Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/5/2014 11:59:37 AM   same old same old ............hell im really touched by your garbage i will now go have a cry .....first i will check if my boy is snuggled up under his blanket .it is winter here and cold as cold .what a gorgouse little man nearlly 2 years now Your Reply: Your name:   New Registration Password:   Forgot password?   refresh Code:   Russian brides > Main Forum > To challenge or not to challenge that is the question
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