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	Create New Topic   My Posts   My forum buddies   Invite friends   Private messages Russian brides > Main Forum > how does international travel work? Author Post Tom Shea Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 3/5/2015 11:32:38 AM   I've been thinking about going several different places on vacation with my wife. If I go to a place where americans do not need a visa, will she need one traveling with a ukrainian passport and us green card? 8 Guess the question is, will she be treated like an American or a ukrainian? Thanks lonelyranger1701 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 3/5/2015 10:53:45 PM   All I know from one former member, is that he and his wife could go to Canada, with her having a green card. Bowhunter might know more. MartinPC Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 3/6/2015 1:05:49 AM   Immigration works on passports ... Who gives a shit if she has a right to live & work in USA, until such time as she may have a USA passport her nationality, her "identity", is Ukrainian. It's a bit like asking can one travel internationally on their social security card :) lonelyranger1701 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 3/6/2015 1:31:52 AM   What I posted came from ralph. He and his wife were able to visit Canada within a year of her arrival,,, but after her getting the green card. I don't believe she had her US passport yet. My ex and I wouldn't have been able to do so for much longer. Things were much slower in the Milwaukee office. MartinPC Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 3/6/2015 1:44:02 AM   LR, But USA and Canada are "bed partners", it was an exemption from the norm ... When checking-in for one's international flight do they ask to see one's passport or one's green card? lonelyranger1701 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 3/6/2015 1:59:49 AM   We were instructed by our atty and I think the old INS, not to go to any other country than the US or her former country. I also remember thinking,,,, how can so many other couples go on honeymoons to exotic locals? dcguy Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 3/6/2015 2:16:49 AM   I think you are asking if your wife would be treated as someone from the US in terms of visiting other nations? As far as USCIS is concerned, she is not an American citizen and therefore, the citizen travel rules do not apply to her. The country that she is traveling to has visa rules for each specific country citizens (in her case, Ukraine), so you would have to check the visiting country's visa requirements for Ukraine citizens. http://www.uscis.gov/green-card/after-green-card-granted/inte rnational-travel-permanent-resident Note that if she stays out of this country for over a year, she automatically forfeits the green card's right to return back to this country. This happened to someone who went back to his country for several years and now he wants to return to the USA and getting no help from the US consulate. His spouse is in this country, but would have to reapply a petition over again to have a new green card issued for him to return. The only other two avenues are to apply for a tourist visa or apply for a green card renewal with an approved explanation as to why you were absent from this country for over a year. If you intend to stay outside the US for over a year, you need to file extensions to your green card that state that you will be away for a prolonged period of time. I think there is a time limit to those extensions. So you cannot keep filing an extension that goes beyond several years. If you need to really remain in a foreign country for a long time and you are not a US citizen, then the US Government considers your green card to be unnecessary since you really have no intention to be a "resident" here. And whether you are married to someone in this country does not matter. dcguy Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 3/6/2015 2:28:08 AM   lonelyranger The immigration attorney is probably recommending not to go to other countries as a precaution because it might seem to appear that you are trying to transport this alien across other international borders. "Abandonment may be found to occur in trips of less than a year where it is believed you did not intend to make the United States your permanent residence." Border patrol can consider aliens traveling to and returning from certain locations to be suspicious and then "flag" you. You are not a citizen, so you have not same the same right to travel unencumbered as a US citizen. durak Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 3/6/2015 3:49:59 AM   Tom, Martin's info is correct, if crudely worded. For the purposes of entering a "third country" (not the US or Ukraine), her travel document is her Ukraine passport, and she will be subject to the same entry restrictions as any other Ukrainian national. [Probably the green card is accepted in Canada and Mexico, because of special agreements between the US and these countries.] She must bring her green card when traveling abroad, because she will need it for re-entry to the USA. If you can, keep life simple by traveling to a country that doesn't require visas for Ukrainian visitors. If you want to enjoy the sun, the Dominican Republic is a fine destination. And with the changing rules, you might consider Cuba, though there is expected to be a problem of many more US visitors to Cuba than its hotels etc. can handle. Mexico has many nice resort areas, and is visa-free for Ukraine passport holders. If you want to go farther afield, Turkey and Israel would also be visa-free for her. Egypt and Thailand are almost as easy; she can get her visa on arrival at the airport. Hope this helps! lonelyranger1701 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 3/6/2015 3:53:04 AM   Through the years, I’ve come up with a theory, that a couple might need to travel through her country, then to the foreign destination. US to Ukraine, then to a desired location that she is able to travel to, as a Ukrainian . I haven’t had the chance to test that,, so it is only a theory. What martin is saying makes sense,,,, but this might be away around it? One thing that I did learn,,, is that the amount of time she spends out of the US,,, is added to the length of time she must wait for her passport and citizenship. lonelyranger1701 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 3/6/2015 4:00:31 AM   Durak beat me to it! I would be careful in Mexico,,,, people are being machine gun downed in many places. Carjackings and armed robbery is running rampant. Choose your destination carefully. I passed on the chance to go to Mexico,,, I wouldn’t risk it for my ex. Armored car sales are through the roof there. durak Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 3/6/2015 4:47:04 AM   lonely, When she enters country X (say, the Dominican Republic), the immigration authorities there will only look at her passport. It doesn't matter whether her flight originated from Ukraine, the USA, France, or wherever. Things get more complicated, if she needs a visa. Many countries generally allow you to apply for a visa only from your _passport_ country, though often they will allow you to apply in a third country, if you can prove long-term residence there (for example, applying in the USA and using the green card to show that it is the current country of residence). As for Mexico, it is quite a large country, almost 2,000,000 square km. Most of the violent crime occurs in certain regions of the country. Most of the popular resort areas are far from the regions of drug trafficking, industrial-scale kidnapping and the like. On the other hand, just driving around Mexico in a car is a bad idea, unless you know your way around very well! I recommend looking the US State Dept advisories for any country an American is planning to visit. TomZ Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 3/6/2015 6:50:19 AM   Take her to Hawaii. MartinPC Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 3/6/2015 7:34:10 PM   I've just had a French guest leave to return to France, his English wasn't very good and I picked up that he was booking himself back to France on Aeroflot. I was trying to get it across to him, unsuccessfully, that if he needed to change terminals in SVO then he was going to need a visa for Russia but, with blinkered vision, all he was interested in was the ridiculously cheap air fare of something like $250. He checked his itinerary and as both legs of the journey were with Aeroflot, and they were allowing him to book with a 55 minute connection in SVO, I'm guessing that both flights were via the same side of SVO airport, as I recall something like terminals D and F. durak Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 3/6/2015 9:04:40 PM   Martin, Even back in 2004, when it was necessary to take a long drive between the "domestic" (including former Soviet Republic) and international terminals at Sheremet'evo, it wasn't necessary to have a visa -- they had special buses for transit passengers. If somebody was crazy enough to book an itinerary via Russia that required a change of airports, THEN they would need a transit visa. Now with everything new and shiny, getting between D and F is merely a quite long walk (in the extreme case, more than a mile between gates). Your guest probably did OK, if he didn't stop for coffee along the way. The old north-side terminals are now a sort of ghetto. As far as I can tell, B is closed completely; C is the home of 2 or 3 very obscure airlines, and A is for private flights. Rick4girl Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 3/6/2015 10:25:44 PM   durak has it covered no need for further comment MartinPC Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 3/7/2015 4:38:55 AM   Ah OK, So is my understanding correct that SVO has come in to the 21st century and unless travelling with the referred to "obscure airlines" then no visa is required for transitting passengers? durak Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 3/7/2015 4:59:02 AM   Martin, It's even easier than that ... as I referred to above, the very first time I set foot in Russia (back in 2004) I was actually a transit passenger (without a transit visa) on my way to Kyiv. I did NOT go through passport control, even though I needed to get between SVO-1 and SVO-2. For migration purposes, they were considered one airport. I was corralled with a bunch of other transit passengers in a special transit area, from which we were escorted to a bus that took us to the "other Sheremet'evo" transit area. Legally, I did not enter Russia that day. If an itinerary has a passenger going between SVO and DME, or DME and VKO, then that passenger must have a visa. Likewise for same-airport transfers if the time between flights exceeds 24 hours. ________________ According to wikipedia, the only scheduled airlines on the north side of SVO (the old SVO-1) are Air Algérie, Air Koryo, and Ariana Afghan Airlines. Are they obscure enough for you? Never heard of Air Koryo? It's North Korea's flag carrier, yippee! MartinPC Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 3/7/2015 6:30:03 AM   "Never heard of Air Koryo? It's North Korea's flag carrier, yippee!" They can't be any worse than South Korea's flag carrier and Asiana! Getting exciting here now ... They're extending the runway at our local "IAO" airport, there's even rumours of it being designating an international airport with such luxuries as runway lighting and refuelling facilities! If this island's airport can get direct flights from/to Manila we'll be laughing, my occupancy levels are already crazy, for the first 7 days of March my occupancy rate is 87.3% ... And I'm knackered :) bowhunter Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 3/7/2015 7:28:25 AM   What it comes down to is where you plan to visit. Just check the visa rules or lack of. The green card is just authorization for permanent residency in America. A lot of tourist oriented places such as the Bahamas allow entry no problem. most of the Caribbean islands allow visa free travel but check your destination first. Your Reply: Your name:   New Registration Password:   Forgot password?   refresh Code:   Russian brides > Main Forum > how does international travel work?
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