Guys I am curious how did you find your girl friends in Russia and Ukraine online and the strategies you used?
I been using mostly free websites, and so far my luck has not been that great, so many scammers, scamming for money for visa etc. I am 40 years olds in good shape, look 5 years younger... all my hair etc. Yet the only women who search me and look at my profile are aged 44 to 50 years old, so 4 to 10 years older than me))) They look 10 to 20 years older than me)))))I looking for ladies 10 to 14 years younger which I think it is realistic, so as I search for this age group, only old ladies of 50 search and look at my profile)))
I find all the profiles from eastern part of Ukraine, close to the boarder with Russia are 90% scammers, so I don't even write any more to those in that area. I been going to Philippines for the last 15 years, and I can tell you it is 50 times easier to find girls online and date them in the Philippines, yes they have the odd scams to, but they are very crude scams that are not elaborate and you notice right away, unlike the elaborate scams that the women from eastern Europe use and the Russian mafia.
Just that I am more attracted to white women, and want to marry a white women to have those white babies)))) Still it is so easy in the Philippines, and the women can all speak English so well, I am tempted to just go there again just for holiday))))
Elena models I been looking at to, might try them but it seems to be not many girls on that sight looking for a guy my age, maybe 150 or so from all of Ukraine, not enough to really find some good candidates if you want to go down to meet some.
As for the free sights, you have to dig through a huge amount of coal to find one small diamond, it is alot of work, dealing with all these pro scammers on those free sites using fake and stolen pictures.
For the social net work sites Any one have much luck on the vk sight? I imagine you have to work had to on that social net work sight. I tried http://www.mamba.ru sight for awhile, got some responses but you really have to send out alot to get a few replies.
Agency sites, the most famous ones we all know are big time scams, with pay per letter and all the web chats etc.
With all the experience some of you guys have, and if you had to do it again, what sites you us to find the girls and what strategies you use etc, I like to hear your guys thoughts, thank you for your help I can really use it))))
I been working so hard for not much to show for it for like several months of trying, most of my time was wasted talking to scammers with fake pictures, now I can tell most scammers alot more fast and stay away from them if I can))))
What strategies and sights were successful for you guys and what would you do or not do again?
Tommy, I find the free websites (fdating) work good but you have to physically be in the same country as the girls you are writing. Remember these girls get thousands of letters (many from Turkish and Arabs which they don't like).
What you need to do is physically get yourself on a plane to Ukraine. Now create a profile on fdating. Don't put your location as your home country. Put your location as Ukraine. This will attract ladies attention.
Remember they already get thousands of letters from guys - but outside of their country. So you're already in their country. This gives you a leading edge over your counterparts who just sit back and write letters but never come.
Tell them you are interested in meeting. You've got to be mobile. You've got to be able to get on a plane, train or bus at a moments notice. For the most part you've got to be willing to travel to the lady's city. She will not travel to you. (or you can be set up for a travel scam, yes even within Ukraine).
Forget mamba. It's 99% prostitutes.
Or you can forget the sites all together. If your man enough, hit up the hot nightclubs in Kiev, Odessa and other cities. Pay the cover. Stand at the bar. Dress GQ. Don't dress like a dumb American in jeans and running shoes. Buy ladies drinks. Smile. What you pay in the bar or nightclub will be less that what most paid agencies charge and you just might get something. Many guys from Europe use this approach and find their wives in nightclubs.
fiance.com is actually a good place to meet girls. I have dated a few times from here and met genuine girls in which after meeting or a few dates we decided we werent a match
BUT THEY WERE REAL! From that brief experience I figured that IF I put enough time and effort then I would find success for marriage.
For now, I am happy meeting girls locally in the old fashioned way, dating them and see how things go and not being focused exclusively on marriage, but a longer term
relationship, which if it turns into marriage, then fine. right now, I work so much in Ukraine its difficult to develop a hard core serious relationship unless they
are willing to travel and stay with me in the cities I work in but some are willing. The every day together gives us both a chance to quickly see how things develop.
I dont expect you to be able to spend months on end here, few men have the resources to do so, TomZ and I are the only ones here doing so and neither of us
is focused on marriage right now although if you can do 3 weeks or a month at a time then your prospects are increased several-fold.
As TomZ said, the girls on these dating sites get hundreds of letters from men who often never come so actually showing up in a reasonable time will make a good impression.
Rick, a lot of guys want a magic solution. They want a magic site where they can go over a week or two, find a wife and bring her back home immediately. 99.99999% of the time it doesn't work like that.
I had to meet I would say at least 20 women to get my current girlfriend and we've been dating now for 2 years. We're still courting.
"Forget mamba. It's 99% prostitutes. " - so NOT true!!!
I have a lot of friends that met each other on mamba and got married, have kids and all this happiness :)
But they all are local, Odessa girls were looking for Odessa guys and Odessa guys were looking for Odessa girls. So i know nothing about mamba girls who look for a foreigner...
Tommy, TomZ and Rick are right! The more you come here the better chance you have to find someone.
no such thing as a magic solution. its like everything good in life, usually never easy and certainly not free.
If you cant afford the investment of time and money then dont bother and it takes lots of both to be successful.
most western men are thought of this way...
magic, miracles ... finding wives in night clubs (if you can man up) ... lol
OP: they make it sound like they found the cure for cancer because they found women to take them and they can cook:)
It's not hard to find women in Ukraine, just have one thing in mind: most likely you will get what you can get in your own country just a few (or more than a few) years younger
This is exactly where I met my wife, sleeping right next to me. She's 20 years younger than me and the nicest person I've ever met. I also met and dated 25 to 35 women in ukraine before I found her. But I'm so sad that all the women from eastern ukraine are scammers. She's from donetsk. .. I wish you told me sooner. The fact is that there are scammers everywhere but realize many men date a woman a few times, it doesn't work out, but since he bought her a few dinners, she "scammed" him.
I think the one in the blue jean jacket is now 17, and the one on the left is 16. But,,,, how old were they 2 years ago?? Yes,,, I know the answer is easy.
blue jean jacket is 18, far left is 17. these girls are off limits! They have dreams and aspirations that dont involve western men!
They are all happy and dont need America. WE were just together yesterday as one 15 y.o. girl from our extended group is being adopted by Canadian family.
All girls in photo are going to university in the fall. Blue jean jacket has almost completed first year of university. Not every girl in Ukraine needs rescued.
Tommy
(posting my answer to you in this thread also, for new readers)
Sorry,, but don't often read here anymore, as I have a busy life together with my new Ukraine wife and our children.
Looking at the situation in the world today,,,,,,
this must be the best time ever in history for an ordinary "aged" man to find a good woman 10-20 years younger, for a great and loving relationship.
I had two longtime (10+ years) relationships with truly wonderful women in my earlier life, and have just started on my third one in the last year.
But I never had such possibilities as now, for finding exactly the kind of a woman I wanted to find, in regards to personality traits, intelligence, figure, sex, and so on.
In many ways I can only envy those being 20+ years younger than me, the opportunities they have in these days for finding that "special one" of their dreams.
When finding my previous Ukraine wife on the Internet 16 years ago, it was very different from today, where you have an endless amount of women to choose from.
With the help of todays Internet based dating sites, you can pinpoint exactly what kind of woman you want, and then easily get in touch with a large number of such women.
Later,, after writing and Skyping for a while, you can easily travel to meet with a selected list of prospects that you now feel comfortable with.
These are women that are exited to meet with you also, and all of them fulfills your initial search criteria in regards to language, education, weight, height, and so on.
In my opinion an almost unbelievable fantastic situation, for a man who knows what he wants, to go out there and just grab it.
looking at the present situation, I would totally forget about Russia, and concentrate on Kiev with a radius of 100 - 200km around it.
Based outside Kiev, with a rental car, you would have easy access to more than fifty thousand women who are considering a foreign husband in this area alone.
Here is a link to my previous posting about dating sites, and it is still absolutely valid: