"Sitting in an English garden, waiting for the sun, if the sun don't come you get a tan from standing in the English rain" . Just curious, is this an accurate disription of English weather and attitude? I figure we could use a thread on the weather! Seeing as religion is taboo- and politics to inflamatory. It seems all we guys have in common is interest in weather and interest in girls (at least I beleive that most of us here are interested in only the fairer sex). Well actually interest in the fairer sex doed cover a lot of territory.
I am kind of just wasting time waiting to call the fair and lovely Lucy in a bit (I only hope that she is fairer the Jets Moldolvans!).
Seriously though, regarding religion, most all of these girls list their religion as Christian or Orthodox (meaning Russian Orthodox). I wonder to what extent that these girls practice their religion. Whether it is nominal, in name only, or whether it is an important part of their lives. During the days of Soviet domination to be any thing other than an avowed atheist was big trouble.
Any one with experience with FSU women and their religious beleifs and practices? Is it something we should be sensitive to on a cultural basis?
If you dont like the weather, wait 5 minutes it will change !!!
England doeant have a climate like other countries, we just get weather !!!
Weather it will rain, or weather it wont !!!
Its raining here again today, sign its a bank holiday weekend !!!
We dont need to do rain dances here to get it to rain, just declare a bank holiday !! that will do the trick !!
Last Saturday it was + 26.5 C here (while I was in Omck) and this weekend it cant be over 14 degrees !!!
Most FSU women if religious at all (Uzbekistan has many Muslims ) are Russian Orthodox, thats low Catholic high Protestant, if you want an idea of how devout they might be.
Many girls go to church, but many dont, my Natash` does, but the translator I met Anactacia is only 20 and doesnt.
You need to get to know your own ladies personal views and cant pigeon hole anyone really.
Russian Orthodox is yes, Christian, but as I said above, more low end Catholic and high end Protestant. Their services involve a lot of ceremony, but they dont have some of the harder rules that Catholosism has.
Or we could just talk about the Girls ;o))
That would be a useful thread too :o))))
"During the days of Soviet domination to be any thing other than an avowed atheist was big trouble. "
That wasnt actually true Ens, to be religious was no problem, to worship publically was frowned upon, and more so in the days of Lenin as it was he who was very anti religion. But to worship in private and not shout about it wasnt a problem, and yes many many FSU ladies take their beliefs seriously.
There are many Old churches in Russia, and they are very well patronised.
I would say yes, be sensitive to your lady if she has religious beliefs then at least respect them, she wont be too happy if you dont !!!
Good info Tim. Thanks.
I know that Lucy attended church on Easter Sunday, and the day after which is celebrated as Memory day for deceased relatives; but I have not really broached the subject with her to much. She does think my profession as a protestant clergyman is good - she figures that I must have good values. So that is all positive (as long as I actually do have good values lol).
I figure that the best time to get into this is when I visit. Any thoughts?
If anyone is wondering Lucy is not actually her Moldovan name! (duh) She is Ludmila, her family and friends call her Lusa - she chose the Anglicized Lucy. Which is good as Lusa Sousa (pn. Sue-sa) may be a bit to much!
I had forgotten you were a man of the cloth ;o)) You shouldnt have any problems in this area with Lucy mate, it sounds as if religiously you are very compatible :o)))
If the subject comes up, then talk about it whenever, but if not, wait till you get there, and go to church with her, she will like that Im sure :o))
On a serious note however, I feel its a duty to share what knowledge any of us have in this quest, we are all alone, except for others in the same boat, and if helping to keep it bailed out keeps us afloat then Im more than happy to do my bit :o))
Couldn't agree with you more. As I am still in a learning mode I ask more than I have to offer. But as I experience more I also will be happy to do my part in keeping the boat afloat.
Maybe I'm asking questions that others would but have not, or maybe asking what others did not think to ask. I have learned a tom in a short time here by other peoples questions and the many great answers.
Its always wise to ask a question, no matter how obvious the answer might be, or how dumb the question might sound, there is a good chance if you have thought of the question, others have thought of it too, but maybe they felt they couldnt ask it !!!
Me too mate, still packing my house !!
So many boxes already, and Im not half way through it yet !! Its scary how much crap we accumulate over a few years in one place !!!!
When I get to the new house, in a few weeks time (gota store the most of it until then) Im going to have one major clear out !!!! I havnt time to do it now or I would, but lots of stuff is going to have to go !!!
I found them much more decorated and lively than our C of E churches, with lots and lots of colouful paintings !!
Thats real odd Nisse mate, I have seen probably about 10 Russian Orthodox churches at least, and they were all as I describe, where were the ones you saw ? Maybe they are less bright and chearful in different cities !!
I don't meen not the churches, they are wonderful. It was the old ladies walking around and praying lighting candles etc. hoping for a some help comfort and a better life was the thing that got to me.
For a minute there I thought we had been in different types of churches :o)))
Now you have said that, yes I have seen them too, and have felt some sorrow at their hopeful prayers, it isnt Gods help these people need, its decent life and a reasonable expectation for the future :o////
I think many do get the comfort they seek from their faith though mate, certainly many I saw leaving the churches left looking happier and less stressed than when they arrived.