You are right, of course. I am not going to use the N word if it offends, but what ever happened to "Stick and stones...."? I don't believe the people of the FSU, or anyone else using that word are racists unless they back it up by discriminatory actions. Those who are offended have a bigger credibility if they don't use it themselves. Jesse Jackson is an example, he used the N word when he thought the microphone was off two years after he went on the media saying it should never be used again, after Michael Richards used it in his comedy show.
There are people who use racial slurs because they have "black friends" or work with "African Americans" or went to school with "blacks" or played sports with "people of color." There is no acceptable use of the "N" word by a white person, no matter how cool you think you are. I grew up with the notion that there are "white ni**ers and black ni**ers. This is acceptable in some parts of the U.S. but using the word is still wrong. Just stop saying it...
Lol, if you're slightly sun tanned in many parts of the FSU you'll be called a nigger. Should've seen Mrs reaction the first time she saw a Kenyan year ago....ouch. The irony is now she drinks her mid week afternoon Chai in some snobby little cafe' with her closest friend who is a Currie Muncher......crap, did I say that? Is she racist? Yes of course to some extent but I think, as with many easterners, it is born in ignorance rather than intent.
To the original thread topic, Elenas is owned by a Rusisan, married to a South African, living in Australia so I hardly think the ethos of the site has racist slurs. How individuals who list on the site behave is a seperate matter and for each to form his or her opinion as he or she finds.
If it's not all right for a white person to say it, neither should it be all right for a black person. As I said I will not say it for it will offend and I will explain it to people who say it, but is ignorant.
Did you know that more than 4 million "whites" live in South Africa?
Did you know that most emigrants from South Africa to other continents are "white"?
Did you know that no human ethnic group has skin that is naturally either black or white?
Did you know that the vast majority of posts in this thread are of no use to anyone looking for a mate in the FSU?
I don't know about some of you bastards, but I feel that at my age, I'm at the last moment of my life to find love, and I intend to give it my best shot. Maybe with God's help...
"Lol, if you're slightly sun tanned in many parts of the FSU you'll be called a nigger."
Hmmmm, Dunromin....I am glad I don't know or hang with your russian crowd, if that is where you got that info. Personally, I think there are many euros with tans.....more in southern europe. In Odessa, I hear much more people with darker skin(non-blacks) called darkies. In summer, I can be called a darkie or if you you will, in Dun's crowd....a nigger. Yet, I have never been called anything like that in Ukraine or for that matter Russia...though the police in St Pete's made sure I was well aware of them, repeatedly stopping me to see my papers.
Beemer18: You missed the point. Nigger, is used commonly in Russia, too commonly for western tastes but without malicious intent.
Quote: “Did you know that the vast majority of posts in this thread are of no use to anyone looking for a mate in the FSU?”
I disagree. PC (Political correctness) has not overwhelmed the FSU and personally to some extent I hope it stays that way. PC (Personal Choice) is what this pursuit is all about. Those who are not “white” (whatever that may be by definition) and do make a PC (Personal Choice) to go to the FSU states looking for a mate need to be very much aware the social protections that PC (Political Correctness) provide in the west will be missing and they may very well come up against things like “Nigger” and so forth. They need to be prepared. I’m not suggesting these terms should be encouraged or that I condone them but the reality is, the visitor may very well hear them and if from the outset he is likely to be offended then he should stay home. The FSU is not the place for him. One thing that has become abundantly clear to me throughout marriage and as I observe the socio/political developments of Russia over the last decade, Russia certainly isn’t going to change to accommodate western tastes. Ukraine, of recent times has been slightly different but I have doubts about the longevity of the new found liberalism.
Dunromin makes a very good point. 5/15/09 9:22 As I got caught up in some of the BS in this thread... yeah I was having fun with the ridiculousness of it.
It just goes back to Americans. It's always about Americans. We are the greatest country in the world, we are the best we are. we are. we are... I me, me , mine...The American way. The American liberal agenda... oh F it. Most Americans don't have a clue about how people live in other countries, their demeanor or what they truly think of Americans. Most of you will be shocked. I have met some very cool people in France and Italia. No political b.s. Just people. Americans are the most prejudiced people in the world - barring the camel jockeys of course. And that was an unfare statement by me. I know many camel jocks that are very cool people - engineers and a few doctors. But I am very concerned with the towel-iban. had to be said. I just want to add one more thing. I love the term towel heads. Whenever I see a woman coming out of the bathroom with a towel wrapped around her head, I question her patriotism.
Black people from America must understand that your self-serving bullshit only works in America. It is a fact, learn it, appreciate it and get over it.
And you are very welcome my black friend. My W4 indicates about 50K in income tax. I am supporting many of your relatives.
Dun....you mentioned "many parts of FSU" which would include lot of other countries other than russia. I have been to at least 5 of the countries and have only once heard the 'N' word. I never said anything about it being used 'maliciously'....just the hearing of the word. Our circles seem to be different. I am not saying anyone is wrong or right...just our viewpoints..say hi to the MRS.! :-)
I lookong for serios man who can care about me haw about his child.
He must be generouse to me.His age mst be 27-46.My future boyfriend should be financially sure and have the same interests with me.Im looking for my perfect match.
Sexual maniacs,asian,arabic and financially not stabile,greedy men,please don't disturbe me!
I see many profiles that state a preference for either a combination
of european and hispanic, or european, hispanic and mixed race or
some rarely with the above combinations including black or african.
i can't recall seeing any russian/ukraine, E.European women requesting
just black or african, so as in the forum topic here asking,
Do Ukraine women like only white men, i think it is a matter of preference
and the level of ones own level of how liberal, accepting, non racist
and ability to love someone for the person that they are regardless
of their exterior, be it a color or appearance or otherwise.
The lady i have been in contact with is from Odessa, she is Orthodox
and we get along great and have been discussing future plans.
She gas told me, "i want to be your one man woman" and i have reiterated the
same to her, I want to be her one woman man. She's so great to me and i want to be the best i can for her.
Oh and yes, she is fair skinned, blonde haired and blue eyed,
no conscious choice on my part, i have always fancied an olive brunette.
You don't choose who you love, at least you consciously shouldn't.