Ah yes, The 'Not so big T'. Have to send him some Back Bacon to make sure he eats properly eh.
I do enjoy reading about everyone's experience. I've always had romantic notions about Russia and had an unreolved itch to visit. One day I bought a wall map from National Geographic to find a nice spot to visit but the former USSR is SOOOOOOOO freaking huge! There was no way to decide where to go. Moscow? Kiev? St. Pete/Leningrad? Maybe the wooded Siberia in the summer? Or the Black sea region? Ahh, it was enough to pull out hair by the handful. I'm hoping this search can at least resolve a few issues, and down that list is a Visit to a former Soviet state.
TC: I did tell you long ago mate, that the chances of a woman coming to meet you (or even being allowed to do so) before you have been there are slim to bugger all mate !!
You really got to go there !!
Besides, neither the UK or the US Gov wont let her in if you have never met her face to face !!
To even hope she will come to you, or be able to even contribute anything to her fares is a non starter.
Tony:
The lucky scouser has been seen and conquered :o)
I have been to many FSU countries, and many many times too, if I can help anyone in any way, either ask here or mail me eh !! :o)
Tim and Gladiator,
Thank you for your offers of help. Perhaps if or when I find someone I can stop pover to the UK for a day or so, take you two fine blokes for a few pints and hit ya for information and a good time. I do appreciate a good English pint. Somehow it goes to my head faster.
HA HA! No US Piss water over'ere bud. We got some prime pints in our bars, stuff that rivals the best of the Bavarians.. A Case of Moose goes a long way.
I think maybe you set up your draughts differently. Or maybe its just the added dimension of being somewhere foreign, the adrenaline working overtime.
Whatever it may be, I'll be sure to bring a case of something Canadian and we can all objectively compare some lagers.
Whatever the beer....(within reason),good company is always welcome,and as a few of my countrymen will vouch for, we do like the odd drink or two here in Liverpool.
And comparing decent lagers sounds like a fun time......:))
Wonderful, then it is agreed. Say, last september an airline had an ad in the paper for 3 pound trips to paris, milan, berlin and such. Do you get those same great deals (although not as cheap obviously) to the FSU?
I don't know about "3 pound trips" but occasionally I have seen REALLY low promotional rates (@ a lot more than 3 pounds, but quite a bit under $1000) to FSU countries. I think they were to St. Petersburg and Kyev. My problem is that they always originate from New York - and a connecting flight is never a bargain. (And I don't want to go to St. Pete or Kyev anyway).
Most of my flights to Uzbekistan have been $1000, Ukraine was $560 and Russia $800 to $1000, Its not cheap to fly there from here even though its much closer of course !!! But then transatlantic flights are comapartively cheaper, so the extra distance cost gets swallowed up and made to look a beter deal, in those cheap areas of the journey.
$1000 to any FSU country from the US is not at all a bad deal guys, when you know that it can cost us that from here !!
Sheesh, these oils prices really make travel difficult. Well, if I'm gonna spend that kinda cash on a flight that isn't first class I might as ell wait for Hooters Air to be in service between toronto and Kiev... $50 per jug is a much easier way to justify that kind of price... :)
Elena`s is an excellent site, and Elena is a lovely helpful lady,
But:
You only get the address and details of the girls, you don't get any real ongoing support or protection and help against scammers, and basically once you have paid for the address`s you are pretty much on your own.
With fiance.com we have Olga to check out our suspicions, and this forum in which we can help each other too.
I met my last wife through Elena`s (nothing that went wrong in that had Anything to do with Elena`s models so please don't be put off by that at all) But now I have used fiance.com, found this very enjoyable forum and tested the site in many ways I wouldn't hesitate to use fiance.com again if Natasha and I don't work out, had I found this site earlier I would definitely have been far more suited to fiance.com as a site which makes me feel so much safer :o))
Ice: tim is right again. It is a great site, but once you purchase an email or postal addresss, you go through another agency completely. I like it though because of their tours and schedules, and of course because of Elenas advice and book for sale.
also, with all the talk about anastasia in other posts, how come it is the only group option for tours on Fiance!? I think that is a bit odd. What do you think?
I heard that theres some kind of difference with the tour and the site with the girls. I think Olga explained the difference a while ago. I'll never remember which thread.
Elena`s models should not be regarded and "an agency" in all its meanings. Elena`s is merely an address`s for sale facility. As Jeff says, once you buy the address and if the girl used an agency of her own to put her on Elena`s, from that point on you are dealing with a whole new ball game and Elena`s, unlike fiance.com don't vet these agencies or keep control of what goes between you and the girl as nothing goes through Elena`s like it does here on fiance.com.
If you are new to this quest or in any way scared about being scammed, then please stick with fiance.com. Places like Elena`s will require a lot more work on your part, a lot more insight into the possible ways you could be scammed, more knowledge of detective work that can be done to ensure your safety and peace of mind, and far more chance of you being scammed at all !!
amen to Tim, I am up for a few beers and I wish I had found this site first, I have to say guys and this is no good for the fsu, but I go fag shooping(different fags USA guys.:) shopping in Barcelona every week for 30 pounds with Easy jey, nice day out in the sun, and profitable too.
As I had my picture taken with my girl In Amsterdam last week Tim, does this give me a better chance of getting her to the uk for a visit?
Unfortunately not mate, its very vary hard for any FSU single girl to get to the UK at all.
Odd reall, cus if your black, or penniless, or claim you need asylum you can get in at the drop of a hat !!!
I think I mentioned that I tried to take my X to AD for a weekend for my birthday, absolutely hopelss !! They wanted letters from my accountant and all sorts of personal stuff that i didnt want to give them !!