No, I just picked up on this one because she popped up (he said popped up:) when I looked to see who was online on EWM. I do stay away from the children - generally. Although I definitely think they want you to look. There is a reason they dress like that. It doesn't hurt to look I say :)))
Correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't it Freud that came to notoriety when he taught men that the most effective way to overcome relationship dissapointments with the opposite sex was to immediately try to date TWO members of the opposite sex whose ages when added equal the age of the previous person one had the relationship that went sour????
You guys are a real hoot! To date two women at once and keep everything balanced is not worth it. In my younger days I lived with three open minded ladies at once. Even at 21 and strong as an ox they drove me nuts! It really got bad when all three were having PMS at the same time! One is enough for me now!
My son graduated from High School last Thursday.
This is the only reason why I was seen sharing the same piece of pine next to his mother, her boyfriend of 10 years and a long time married friend couple of hers, George and Cathy.
Their ages are 62/51 & 52/54.
The mood was civil and cheerful because the ocassion was celebratory, but I do not like any of these people.....and boy do they hate my guts, lol!!
Last year my oldest daughter graduated from the same school and the same scene took place without any incidented, arguments or even a frown thrown at each other.
So no reason to expect anything different this year, right?
Wrong.
My butt wasn't even settled down on the stadium seat that right out of the gate Cathy says with the most viperish tone in her voice:
"Soooo Gustavo, tell us all about this hot young russian honey of yours"
I swear I could see the split tongue ends as she spoke.
"Why would you want to know any of that, Cathy?"
"Well, for one I'd like to understand why a seemingly intelligent (subtle insult #1) man who lives in california but obviously cannot handle relationships with american women (open insult #2) would need to go looking for women in a poor & corrupt 3rd world country where he will probably only find poor, ignorant women (blatant insult #3)whose main goal is to emigrate to a rich country, even if they have to whore themselves to men twice their ages (angry, almost yelling insult #4)
"Cathy, dear, babe, honeypot...I could very easily answer and explain every single one of your very interesting and pointed questions, but I need a notarized written disclaimer from you, first.."
(Cathy's puzzled look)
You see, Cathy babe...I have explained this very same thing to several seemingly happy, intelligent, independent, achieved, hyphinated last name, married american women in the presence of their husbands...And without exception, every single time, these pussywhipped men have decided to get their balls back, filed for divorced, gladly given their future ex wives half, and in some cases most, of their community property and gone off to find what I found. Now are you sure you want me to answer this in George's presence?"
(Pussy whipped George's jaw drops farther and farther down as he watches me talk to his wife in such a calm, assertive and confident manner despite her poorly veiled insults.)
"And by the way, Cathy, my russian honey is half YOUR age, not mine. I'm still only 49."
(Cathy's open mouth is not saying anything)
(Kids' mom pretty blue eyes are expressing the witch's brew in which she would like to boil me)
(George's jaw is still open and his overall facial expression scream "will I ever get laid again for not standing up for my wifey and is this guy for real, could I do that too?")
Kids' mom's boyfriend is the only one who says anything...
"You had to tell them, did you? Now we'll never hear the end of it"
I had a similar conversation with my ex-wife's sister not long ago.
These smart mouthed women all have the same uppity attitude, but below their poorly veiled distaste is a flood of insecurity. They know deep in their hearts that they are being replaced with better, faster, and smarter models. Just like in the real world mess with the bull and you, get the horn.
Toad
That is priceless! I had a similar encounter with my ex girlfriend. When she popped off her mouth about not being able to find a woman here in the states and any woman will move to get out of poverty.
I had to remind her that I was living in poverty with her, but not in the financial realm. Then I blasted her with both barrels because she pissed me by constantly calling her Marisa. I said you ignorant bimbo, first of all her Name is Larissa, second in an intellectual battle with her you would be coming to a gunfight with a knife. Thirdly she is coming her for more than an economic change of status, something more pure and deeper than your feeble mind could absorb. Fourth when it comes to beauty and elegance your not in the same league with her and your seven years younger. She was being nosey because her cousin had stopped by to visit and went back and told her about my remodeling project. So the nosey bimbo had to come by and start degrading Larissa. Then as a parting shot I had to remind her that her cousin is now looking at women from the FSU and neither him or I were stupid enough to marry the same person twice! Damn the majority of American women I can't really even understand!
I have resurected this thread for some of the newer members of this forum. It is from back in early June. There are many things in here worth looking at.
My instructive story. Toad's attitude towards Lena. Annika revealing a great deal of truth about these women's motivation. There is also a camaraderie and a lot of humor.
I suggest that anybody that is new to settle down and plough through this. It will be worth the efforts and you will wonder what has happened to all of these old forum members. Why the anger, attacks and bitterness of late.
Everybody here is different. I do not agree with Nas's political stance. So what? It doesn't matter. Others think that I am an idiot, again who cares? Sprit is off smoking a fat one somewhere. Again who cares?
Sometimes despair, sadness and failure happens. Then good things and hope rises out of the ashes.
I feel sad at the accusations and false posts that have been made against Toad. If anybody deserves the Telenovela offer it should be me not him. And I want everyone to understand that Toad and I have banged heads in the past. I do not agree with his attitude sometimes.
There have been times when he has made me very angry but it passed.
There are things here that are far more important than how I feel or my stupid criticisms. There just can't be too much room here for a self righteous attitude. Even though I know Toad is one of the greatest proponents of that personality trait.
These threads are full of practical information. How to cross Moscow from airport to airport. The best way to address parents. Ideas on suitable gifts and the whys and where fors of agencies.
There is something else here though. That is the ability to look and share vicariously in somebody elses happiness and sadness and learn from that.
Marina and I.
Lena and Toad.
Nas and Larissa.
UB
Galadiator
Trad
etc.
It so good to know that you are not alone and somebody else is going through the exact same crap that you are.
So could we get back to business?
Iz:
words of wisdom indeed.There has been so much crap passing through this forum recently I've considered buying waders to see over it all!!
You are dead right in what you say about this place being a wealth of info for those starting out on what could be the journey of a lifetime,but all too often petty personal differences creep into it.
Yes we all have different opinions and for the most part i can accept that,although even I have been known to get the flamethrower out on occasion!
But as you point out.....hopefully the forum is about more than personality clashes.....wherever they originate from.
So I wholeheartedly endorse your call for a return to sanity,and hope the playground behaviour shown by some members can stay where it belongs.....not here!
Yeah, thanks for resurecting this thread...time consuming reading through some of these but interesting points I have never dealt with before. I have been a fiance.com member for over a year and will be traveling to Ukraine in September. This forum has provided me with more information in the past few days than I've learned in months! Everybody, thanks for your time in this forum, it's a fantastic source! -Ryan
Well Ukraine is the place in September apparently. My friend Jay is there now. I go on Sept 3rd, LasVegas goes on 16th and now you Rhino. looks like we are taking the place over :))
Save some shashlik for me:))
Oh and some of that neat vodka with the peppers in it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah I remember what happened last time!!
Izi will be good.
No beer and vodka again for me. I have healed, you can't tell where the stitches went in. It is just a little tiny bit sore. I wonder if that doctor is still in business? She looked like she was going to croak. Maybe I will look her up for old times sake. Then again if I am about to sepend time traveling internally maybe I should go to Kharkov. I know a certain woman there that.........
Yeah, I'll be leaving on the 15th of Sept. Off season prices make the difference!!! What are the customs restrictions on the amount of cash you can bring in? And how much did you guys bring for spending money? I'm figuring like $1000 for food/gifts/etc for two week...
LOL!!! Yeah, be good! I hear almost everybody drinks alcohol in Europe, is this true? Will it offend someone if I don't have a drink with them? It seems that a lot of the women put "Social" on their drinking status.
you are one of the few reasons, why i decided not to leave this forum here during this stupid discussions here last days.
i always appreciate your openess and let sharing us with your feelings and emotions. i wished, that more of your type would exist here.
Rhino:
" i hear, that almost everybody drinks alcohol in europe".
in which world are you living? most europeans for sure drink less than did george w. bush (now or in past).
Naturally Europeans drink. When the women say something about drinking they do not mean that you are teetotal. They just don't want someone who drinks a glass of neat vodka at breakfast. I am not joking they literally mean that.
In fact if you refuse a small vodka when the toasting is going on especially at a family 'do' then there is the risk of causing insult.
However it was my experience that if you say no there isn't any problem. If I don't want anything I always say I am allergic to alcohol. When they ask what happens I say I get drunk!! That causes a laugh and breaks the situation up.
However I have been known to drink a glass or two :)) In fact I have stitches to prove it :))