I sent a reply earlier but yes she does speak and write English not perfect but pretty close, as for meeting well yes it is hard to say what it will be like but at the very least it will be interesting. Its no biggie going over there for me so if it does not work out not the end of the world. It is interesting how much someone half way around the world can have an effect on you, so I can't say I won't be disappointed if it does not work out somehow. But unlike alot of guys on here I'm not going to sweat around 1500 bucks for a life experience at the least and perhaps life changing at the most. (only $600 to fly from UK, plus expenses so approx 1500)
I do not think she is the party girl type, at least she does not come across that way, but who knows until you meet. She has been divorced 4 years, I have spoke with her mom once who speaks english but not nearly as well as her, she has a daughter which is cool with me and she wants to have at least one more child which is also cool. So unless it is total bs I do not think she is just looking for a few nights out on the town. I think the age (she is 28 not 29 like I said earlier) plus the fact she has one child already means she is probably beyond wanting to go out and just party. Again, unless she is not telling me the truth she does not drink at all.
I sent her a video which she was able to watch so that was cool,(actually had it on a server) so I could tell which IP she came from, and all checks out. I wanted to be sure she knew what I looked like so fewer surprises for her when meeting.
I did use a scam check service so I know she is real in terms of her appearance, I'd be amazed if it turned out she was so completely different than what our conversations and letters have been. I guess I will find out in a couple months.
beemer - when I said mail.ru in russian I meant the website, not her letters to me, she always writes me in English, but lately she has thrown in a few words of russian to see if I know them as I have told her I am trying to learn some.
SMS servers can get messed up, it can happen, rare but can happen - I've had it happen here in Canada for that matter. I have not had any problems for a while now but there were definately a couple days where some messages did not go.
I can't call her from my cell here, it will simply time out and hang up, fails every time yet I call UK, Aus, South Africa all the time for work with it. I have to call her from my landline or skype out and it works all the time.
I have been a member of Anastasia some 2 years ago, and yes I met a few woman when I went there, and yes damn it, we got married in Ukraine, she was a model and when I leased a flat in her city she quit working. I paid for everything(A fool and his money are soon parted)
When it was time to get her paperwork processed, and it was approved, she disappeared, stole everything from the flat. The money I lost was in 10 of thousands.
Then not learning this leson I joined HRB and RLM who is also connected to Zoluchka.net and Nataly.com...all beong to the same person..
I have written confessions from girls from Kherson, Nilolaev that 90% of the woman are paid commissions for chat time, Cam Time, and number of emails YOU send.
I think I may have met maybe 2-3 honest woman, one in fact was using a translator, who coded her office telephone number to me, which I called, she informed me that she use to work for HRB and quit because of the scamming and what was being done. She figured she could make better money with her own office. She told me things that would shock you.
So I tested her advices, and she was right.
The Girls on HRB will dance, strip, remove tops, if you are a well paying customer.
BEWARE!...The little wench who sits on the mens side as your host to help you, is really watching and recording all chats, all vidoes cams, they can go back and look up any chat YOU had with ANYONE...I know I have complianed...I set a young lady up and then complained...this was exactly done as I was told it would be, 2 days later this lady was gone from the site, for giving out her personal email address....there is a way to pass info in chat, you just have to now a few secrets of their auto built in monitoring...
If youre a member of HRB or RLM....GET OUT of there, and file a comlaint with the Florida AG consumer office.
dRSENSEI, well, you paid for entertainment. who would sit on vide chat for free and entertain you? i think itis all clear after you get to those sites.
PREMIUM SCAM DATING SITE ANASTASIADATE.COM
We still work to find out more about this PREMIUM SCAM dating site anastasiadate.com. As I told in my last comment this site scam all men to make only money. It is not my interest to talk about woman that use this dating page to scam men, that is normal in every dating site and for sure anastasiedate.com can’t take the responsible for that (anastasiadate.com is only the platform to bring the product (WOMEN) into the market), this first is part of the agents that connected with anastasiadate.com and deliver the women, this people has to take care that this scammers not get entrée in this site.
Our intension is to stop this scam anastasiadate.com himself and start one official investigatıon against this site. We check this page now at least 18 hours per day with 4 computers and profiles and we understand more and more how this scammer software is working. The women play only a very uninteresting part in all this. We also very sure that in chats and emails maybe the women know nothing that she (the profiles) also be only used, to make profit for anastasiadate.com
I will travel to the Ukraine again and meet some women and also agencies from anastasiadate.com again to find out more. All this is not so easy many women not speak some word English and all need ever a translator.
What we all can’t understand is the following: There are many American guys that cry that she was cheated and nobody do something. We are European guys and no one from use was cheated from this US dating site, we hate only how other people cheated from this dating site and that’s why we invest money and effort to stop this.
After I will back I will explain more about what we find out. Not forget and take in your mind there are many more scammers, especially with Ukrainian and Russian women in the internet.
Here some info from a woman that know more about inside anastasiadate.com
Here is something from an actual lady client on anastasia.com
I would like to tell personal story about Anastasia.com. I am girl from Kiev (Ukraine), I am nice, well-educated and I know English. I wanted to find serious relationship with help of site Anastasia. Well, I registered on the site with my real name and stated that I am woman looking for a man. Can you believe, some mistake has happen and I started to receive invitations from girls to be a member and to chat with them or to read their e-mails? I felt that Anastasia doesn't expect girls to make registration by themselves; they prefer to work with local agencies. Well, than I met a girl who was working in the local international dating agency, partner of Anastasia. She told me that she needs to write and send hundreds of e-mails every day, trying to make new members and to have chat with them. She receives percentage from payments. Also I found many ads in the local press, where girls are invited to work in chat with foreigners. Also there are special people in the agencies, who write very emotional letters about love and relationship.
Than I studied other international dating sites with Russian/Ukrainian girls. I found out that most popular girls usually have very provocative pictures. I mean that girl in underwear takes your attention more than girl in dress. There are many topless girls. Believe me I grew up and live in Ukraine, I am young and beautiful, but not me not any of my friends can not let provocative pictures appear in the Internet. Don't believe that Ukrainian teacher can place a picture in the Internet dressed in a sexy bra. She has colleagues, classmates, alumni, parents, pupils, relatives, and friends and so on. It will be very bad if somebody from this list will see her in underwear (or topless or nude) in the Internet dating site. It can completely destroy professional and personal reputation (I take a teacher for example, but it is true about doctors, clerks, managers and so on). Who don't care? Well, people from show-business (I didn't find girls on the dating site with such field of work), professional daters and prostitutes. I am Ukrainian and after my own experience and investigations I don't believe to dating sites. It is monopoly of professional writers, daters, and fake agencies Well, I decided to try well-known international site. I filled out application form on Match.com. Next day I couldn't access to my page. I wrote a letter to the customer service. The answer was "We don't accept profiles from your part of world any more, because of scammers".
Do not write to any girl on Anastasia who cannot corroborate their photos with a video. several women I contacted were photo-shopped...criminally so....One lady I was corresponding with prolifically has de-activated her profile without any warning and the site management tell me to be patient..6 weeks and counting....Anastasia' over promises and will definitely under deliver!!
I would like to say something on behalf of russian and ukrainian woman...
I am Ukrainian myself and have been married to an american for 7 years, so I have an experience and definitely an opinion...
I am very mad and angry that our woman created this "world popular shitty reputation" - it's terrible and embarrassing. But, this particular agency was created to make profit and not "for the name of love and universal peace".. I am not protecting it - I don't care - I am just saying....
There is a lot of great wonderful family oriented and honest girls on any dating website... They want love and families.. Stop playing "solders from Salvation army" and think that you are their "last chance" and "last hope"... a lot of men do that...!
You are playing "victims", when really - you are suffering for your own "greed" and "denial" .. Most 45-60 year old men want 17-27 year old woman - and you must be completely stupid to think it's "normal and average in Ukraine".. you choose the most beautiful young girls on the site and of course getting scammed! wake up! - any 45-60 ukrainian or russian guy also wants a 17-25 year old woman - and he will have the same mentality, will love her and will be EXTREMELY GENEROUS to "have her" ... they will buy them cars and apartments - and it's normal and "cultural"... so when you show up with "undies" from Victoria's secret and Starbucks coffee - thats kinda disrespectful to expect that they are going to be impressed and will love you forever for that pathetic present.
Why not to have a date with not AS attractive girl and see what she is about? Why not to have a date with a 30-50 year old and maybe create a "reasonable", kind and united loving families? Why keep on seeing girls, that say - "I don't want to move abroad" and "to hit your head of the wall" convincing them?, when there are other woman, that do want that and willing to be understanding loving and supportive?
So get a perspective! and if you are old enough and make enough money to travel SO far and stay there for a while, but can't recognize when obviously a young girl doesn't want be with you for serious and "suck your old dick" - you are just pathetic ..
And don't write a lot- if you are stock - tell them right away to give you their infer - preferably phone number!
"Anastasia sites count over 36 million online visitors yearly with more than 600,000 letters exchanged onsite daily."
With this high of a volume, the age factor (or anything else for that matter) is irrelevant to the company. Better for you to become an affiliate and get your share of the "green stuff".
"Their statistics shows that they have 6000 marriages with a success rate of 80% happening every year. Join now to have a high chance of finding a wife."
Wow, this site must be the holy grail of FSU dating.
Comment from a "hot" FSU lady about Anastasiadate.
"As a gorgeous russian woman I can say this site is total scam – I tried to register myself there as the men and what they sent to me was disgusting, now I spread that information among all my female friends. Russian women are 100 times more demanding than any American women and they are a million times more modest in bed, why does Anastasia website lie to their customer I have no clue, probably they want to cash them out, there is no one normal girl that would want to meet American loser out here, they only collect some girl because they offer then money to be registered on their sites and write that they are crazy-in-love with old American losers, yes the situation with work is bad here and none of girls who worked for those sites never thought they did anything bad, because all those males were not normal men they were old perverts and losers, I dont care about those but I care that those American losers who set up Anastasia website are huge liars and create bad image for really nice girls abroad, that's not right and that has to be stopped I was shocked when I received this kinda letter, I will send it to local police, maybe they will manage to close those assholes. Someone told here that Elenas Models is a good website – such a bullshit, nothing good is there, site is full of psychopaths and pathetic sex tourists – only trash, no one decent."
"I have a proof, that Anastasia Dating is a Scam. I have received an insider information
of an employee. She told me that between 1000 and 2000 men are visiting every year
Odessa in Ukraine. Only 1 or two of these men marry the woman!!!"
"The people posting at scam victims have surpassed themselves.
A married policewoman scam dater & a woman scammer who has a female partner:)
check out the women in uniform and the girl on girl action at:
Keywords: Anastasia date, fraud, theft, scam, “Anna Kalievskaya”"
6,000 marriages each year?? No way! Maybe since they went into business,, which is some time in the 1990’s. I would account for one of those marriages, but like so many,,, it didn’t last.
Aweb/Adate started with catalogs selling phones numbers and mailing addresses,,, I think the cost was 25 dollars per,,, but I’m not 100% sure. They also had socials, which most guys considered to be poorly run,, and no where near as many women as promised.
The 80% can’t be about marriage,,, it could only be for introductions. Remember,,, they are no longer called “Marriage agencies” , they’re now called “dating agencies” and the girl only needs to show up once, to be counted as a success. I planned to meet ten women that I had wrote to,,, 8 showed up,,,, 80%. I had met others while being there, but didn’t write to them beforehand.
Odesa probably has tens of thousands going there for fun and games,, but from what I’ve heard through out the years,,, very few men that are serious about marriage. I also heard that Odesa is full of escorts, yet I never saw one.
I know a guy who uses Adate. It's almost an obsession. For the last 8 years he's used the site and spent thousands on chat. Even more actually travelling to Ukraine to try to meet the girls.
None will meet without an interpreter or some way to make money from him. All the girls he's trying to meet are in their 20s and he's 54. He lies about his age and tells them he's 47 something. He's also fat.
I asked him once why not choose a reasonable age difference. Say ladies in their 30s or 40s. He said they're all ugly dogs.
I think guys who use Adate get what they deserve - NOTHING IN THE END.
I think it might be ok to use the site something like escort or call girls because most of the girls have husbands or boyfriends. They are living their lives. It's not a site for someone who is serious about marriage that is unless you can win them away from their boyfriend or husband.
But why bother? There are much better options. You are better just walking up to a girl on the street than use Adate.
with regard to the title of this thread:
anastasiaFRAUD has been given extensive evidence that one of its agencies in Nikolaev is fraudulent from top to bottom. Known fraudsters acting as translators and managers who actively organize scams (Anna Butuk, Yulia Marchenko). Known mafia who do not speak English listed as translators (Dmitry Ratushny). Obviously fraudulent profiles (Oxana Firsova, Yulia Tatarinova, happily married ).
FACT: NO action has been taken by AnastasiaFRAUD to shut this agency down or cancel its contract.
FACT: the fraudulent profiles are still listed.
In another forum that I frequent, nothing to do with FSU dating, they have, top of the shelf, "stickies" of, to the effect, "don't touch with a bargepole".
Oleg/Olga, if you are reading this might you please introduce "stickies" for the likes of Anastasia to the effect "Don't touch Anastasia" as Anastasia scams must have been the subject of 15 years of posts already and do we really want another 15, 30 or 45 years of posts of the same old shit?
Whether it is 15, 20, 40 or even 100 years, if Anastasia is still in the business of FSU, whether or not it is scamming, then I believe there should be post and threads to the effect.