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	Create New Topic   My Posts   My forum buddies   Invite friends   Private messages Russian brides > Main Forum > Back from Ukraine Author Post idiotdetector Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/3/2004 6:52:44 AM   Yes trad, it is just a case of playing poker with them sometimes but truthfully I have never had any trouble with the law on all my trips and I hope I never do jmoluv Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/3/2004 12:19:31 PM   tradman, that was pretty slick. deanis Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/3/2004 5:22:29 PM   Sorry to hear you got rolled by the corrupt police JM. Your not alone. Another guy I met while in Kiev was rolled for $200 after he left the night club. he was from California and looked it. The bright blonde hair and tan. They spotted him right away and asked him for identification and visa. Back at the apartment just like you. The law does allow them to take you into the station if you do not have your passport and Visa with you. What they would do to you if you said no to the money and yes to go to the station I dont know. Everyone has paid to my knowledge. I always carry my passport with me but so far have been lucky and not stopped by them. Yes, you can try to bluff them and sometimes they will back off or lower the price. So, I have heard. My interpreter is a bulldog and they would never be able to scare her. She has saved many a clients ass in the past. MALKOUNIS Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/8/2004 2:12:13 AM   NICE TO HEAR THIS INFO. I TOO AM GOING TO KIEV IN DECEMBER. MY GIRL IS FROM A SMALL TOWN ON THE AZOV SEA. WE WILL MEET FOR 3 DAYS THERE AND THEN GO TO HER HOME WITH HER FAMILY. CAN ANYONE TELL ME MORE ABOUT BEST PLACES TO EAT, THAT ARE REASONABLE AND THINGS TO DO. WE ARE STAYING AT THE SHERBORNE HOUSE ALSO. SOUNDS LIKE THE HOTEL IS NICE. IS IT CLOSE TO THINGS? I AM GLAD FOR WMFERG. DO YOU MIND IF I CAN WRITE YOU FOR SOME MORE INFO ON UKRAINE. THANKS GUYS. TAKE CARE Ukie 1 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/8/2004 6:40:09 AM   Good luck on you trip. You will be very comfortable at Sherborne. They have a few different addresses, but where I stayed was quite close to Krevschatik Street (the main tourist street). An excellant restaurant not expensive is called Pervak. (www.pervak.kiev.ua) great food, great ambiance, particularly there lunchtime specials. There is also a "Korchma" on Krevschatik, hard to find but worth it, and for nostalgia check out "CCCP", it's a little higher priced, but great food, service and decor. You'll love the architecture, and you'll find plenty to do. I think you'll enjoy there car parking habits. jmoluv Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/8/2004 11:26:12 PM   malkounis there is no such thing as a bad meal in kyiv. all european restaurants pride themselves on excellent food and service. cant get that in usa, if you do your going to pay out big. never had a waitress with an attitude never had a meal that wasnt superb. if have a good guide or interpretor who knows kyiv then you shouldnt have a problem. make sure you go to st. andrews descent on the weekend. get a tour of all their ancient churches on the hill. go to the soldiers war memorial park with museum. they have soviet t-34 tanks there and stalins organs . no guys , not his swanse. its a rocket launcher. take your girl to a ballet . there is a huge food market there so you can see what they like to eat. all fresh out of the sea, forest and farm. on weekends they close down kreschatyk street to autos and it is a big festival for two days. with bands and alot going on. one mile long party. everyone is out that weekend. now for nitelife i went to an exclusive club called the manderin on a barge on the dnieper river. good dance club and hot women. they are all beautiful and these girls can shake it. i also winessed ther a table load of young beautiful hotties smoking a big hookah and they were making out with each other . what a site. what an experience. all within walking distance of eachother . an excellent three course dinner for two with several glasses of wine and tip was around 60 dollars or 70. lunch is way less . dinner could be less to but i prefer their best places in the evening. i have read about the sherbourne in earlier threads. i am sure it is nice but as i have found it is too expensive . you can get a 4 star hotel downtown with breakfast buffet included for two for only 85 dollars a night. if i can help ask, jmoluv MALKOUNIS Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/9/2004 1:55:16 AM   THANKS ALOT UKIE AND JMOLUV FOR THE INFO. I WILL CHECK THESE PLACES OUT. JMLOV I AGREE WITH YOU ON EUROPEAN PLACES TO EAT, I TRAVEL TO GREECE EVERY 2 YEARS TO SEE FAMILY AND FRIENDS AND YES, FOOD AND SERVICE IS GOOD. SOMETIMES A LITTLE SLOW, BUT THATS THE WAY IT IS. WE ARE RUSHED HERE IN CALIFORNIA. THE BALLET SOUNDS GOOD TOO. NOT MUCH ON IT, BUT IT IS SOMETHING RELAXING. HAS ANYONE BEEN TO A GREEK RESTERAUNT IN KIEV. ARE THERE ANY? ANYWAY FRIENDS, TAKE CARE AND THANKS AGAIN. I WILL SEND YOU AN EMAIL ON SOME MORE INFO JUST BEFORE I GO. TAKE CARE. wmferg Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/10/2004 10:19:50 AM   Malkounis Looks like Ukie and jmoluv answered you concerns. I would like to add however that you let you lady take care of negotiations with the taxi driver. If you open your mouth within hearing distance of the taxi driver it will quadruple your fare. As too restaurants, the only one we went to other than traditional Ukrainian was a sushi bar called Asahi. If you like Japanese food it’s fairly nice. Tanya had never had sushi and found she really liked it. If you stay at the Sherborne, they have an advertisement in a local magazine that is in the rooms. Bill PS Caps indicate shouting in e-mails. Some of us are old but not feeble. Lower case would be nice MALKOUNIS Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/10/2004 10:28:22 AM   Thanks Bill, We will check out the sushi bar. I love sushi. Take care and sorry about "shouting" didn't know caps indicated that. I am sometimes just lazy to put it in lower case. Have a nice day. Michael jmoluv Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/10/2004 10:48:08 AM   malkounis, i must tell you this. i do not know acertain women i spent time with inkyiv was spoiled by all the american families she helped through with the adoption agencies in ukraine,that is her job. but she felt she was entitled to a nice gift at the beginning of our 10 days together and a gift at the end of our stay together. it must be a custom over there . she even stated that a guy should also give her family and her son a gift. i just didnt know and she had a real tantrum about it, i mean a screaming fit, no shit!!!!i thought taking her to the best restaurents in kyiv, paying for the apartment, paying for her nanny, and all the taxis, and all the shows and couple nite clubs and flowers on occasion was plenty. we here in america , at least what i know we do not show up bearing gifts when we are just getting to know someone. especially to their family. they will think you are nuts and to forward. there must be a former thread on this that i missed. i would like some feed back on this men. so malkounis maybe you can learn something here. or maybe she was just a spoiled person. also tell her malkounis the old story of (beware of greeks bearing gifts) LOL!!!! maybe you wont have to give anything!! LOL anyways there is a big annual greek festival in my town here beginnig this week. greek and italian food are the best!!! MALKOUNIS Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/10/2004 11:21:50 AM   Hello jmolov, I must tell you, I am glad you brought up the gift situation. When I go to Greece to see my uncle, everyone you know seems to expect a little something from America. Of course it doesn't mean the guy on the street who gave you a good deal on a cd. It's if you go to their home, they treat you to a nice dinner, etc. Skata! I have never been allowed to pay for a meal in the tavernas when I am with my greek buddies. But, I bring them a little something like a mini-mag lite set, a pocket knife, etc, 7 or 8 dollars isnt much for the respect and hospitality you get from them. My girl told me not to bring anything to Ukraine, she said her family are simply folks and don't expect nothing. But if I insist, she said bring chocolates, I am taking several boxes of See's candies for her family. It just shows respect to me and my upbringing of greek. Here in the states, they would think your crazy everytime you show up with something, except maybe an 18 pack of bud light. lol. I sent you another thread on the customs thing on taxing gifts, etc. let me know about that. Have fun at the Greek festival. We call the festival "Paniyiri". Make sure you eat a pork souvlaki, (shish kebap) they are great. Don't forget the baklava my friend. Yeia sou. Bye Michael wmferg Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/10/2004 12:00:57 PM   Jmoluv I think Ptichka would be the best person to guide you in this area. When I asked Tanya if the was anything that she would like me to bring her from America she said only me. When I arrived in Kyiv she had a gift for me. Not a lot and might be considered cheesy by some, but it will be something I will always treasure. The first evening I bought her a single rose. From her reaction you would have thought I bought her a diamond ring. She said she would keep it always, as although I had sent her flowers before this was the first I gave her personally. Anytime I tried to purchase something for her that she thought expensive she would refuse. Finally one evening she informed me that she liked me for who I was, not for a “fat wallet”, and if I had no money she would still be with me. Maybe this is the difference between a lady from a large city and a “village girl”. Bill jmoluv Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/10/2004 12:30:45 PM   your right bill about big city and the village. those american families i really do think they really showed their gratitude to her with a lot of gift giving and that is what she expected from me. it really cast a shadow of doubt at first i mean we parted on a very bad note. but we turned it into a good thing somehow and we have become very close. i should have done better homework on ukrainian customs before i went. ptichka if you read this and my thread above this one what is your advice on gifts . if you read me on american customs it was probably my ignorance your customs that made my girl mad or was she just spoiled? Ditto Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/11/2004 10:16:27 AM   Malkounis, Just got back from Kiev last night. Had an extremely intelligent tour guide with near perfect English skills. She not only knows English, but she knows Ukrainian history. She doesn't just read the brochures. I have her personal contact info, if you would like. Just let me know. wmferg Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/11/2004 1:12:32 PM   Ditto, If you would forward your guides info to me it would be much app. I will be returning to Ukraine end of Nov. first of Dec. MALKOUNIS Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/11/2004 11:17:56 PM   Hello Ditto, Nice to hear you made it back. How was it? Do you mind if I email you for that tour guide info? Thanks. Hey jmoluv, did you go to the Greek Festival? Michael (Malkounis) jmoluv Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/12/2004 2:23:18 AM   malkounis, of course i attended the festival, it was held as always at the THEOTOKOS HOLY TRINITY CHURCH . it is a good family festival . all of the elderly women make all the traditional food we talked about and they have the very traditional bands playing greek music and they also have the younger people who wear traditional costumes and do the traditional dances. i never miss it. jmoluv Ditto Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/12/2004 4:45:08 AM   I will provide the details in a few days, but right now I am swamped with life. Let's just say I made a HUGE mistake going to Ukraine. I waited way too long. zendenkay Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/12/2004 4:49:00 AM   Excuse me!Ditto? made a HUGE mistake going to Ukraine What happened? Can you tell me? Ditto Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/12/2004 4:54:03 AM   Waited way too long. 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