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	Create New Topic   My Posts   My forum buddies   Invite friends   Private messages Russian brides > Main Forum > In the good old days men wanted to put women up on a pedestal Author Post QuietCharm Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/14/2004 3:06:44 AM   Women are nurturers and bringers of life. They are beautiful, fascinating and worthy of worship. I try to approach them always in this way. A woman is a Queen to my King and therefore a pedestal is the rightful place for her. Find someone who understands this at a deep level and you will see what is possible in a relationship. It turns the mundane into magic. For those women, and men, who have forgotten these qualities and are wrapped up in their material or selfish distractions, I feel sorry. Read 'Song of Solomon' or 'Gibran'. You will begin to get the point. QC Thunderdome Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/14/2004 2:00:41 PM   Gladdie, glad to see you've not entirely lost it yet :)) Yes indeed, so who shall I be to deny his fun? However, an old chameleon believing in reincarnation just may return as a gay lizard, skinny as hell because he habitually says 'Shooo' to approaching insex. GLTALLTOAD Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/14/2004 5:24:01 PM   "....Women are nurturers and bringers of life. They are beautiful, fascinating and worthy of worship..." Quiet, Men generally are the primary providers for the family and assume the vast majority of financial responsibilities affecting his family. They generally are the authoritive paternal figure that brings discipline and order to the household and a significant measure of balance to the nurturing maternal side of the relationship. Tell me, Quiet...what are men worthy of in your not so humble, woman pedestal building and worshipping opinion? toad gladiatorUK Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/14/2004 5:58:30 PM   no TD not lost it yet....(I hope)...still lots to learn from the master before I hang up my boots!!....:)) izifaddag Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/14/2004 6:45:14 PM   Pedestal this. Damn you can't see me. QuietCharm Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/17/2004 3:17:32 PM   Hi Toad Surprised at the ascerbic reply. My comments were a celebration of women not an attack upon men. Queen to a KING. Nor is it arrogance or a question of humility. I simply answered the question asked. As someone who has been married 3 times, I could easily allow cynicism about women to set in. Equally, my ex's might feel cynicism towards men. No-one likes to feel blame or guilt. When cupid's arrow does strike, it is hard NOT to put your partner on a pedestal or feel a sense of wonder. If you haven't ever felt that, then maybe you have it to come. I'm certainly not going to apologise for something I regard as a normal part of a loving relationship. As to men's value, I'm on your side. Men get screwed by law, women's 'rights' and by being required to meet their 'needs' and have lost their way somewhat. But that's all been talked about in other threads. Hope you don't find anything offensive in my reply. If I didn't rate women, I wouldn't be out there seeking. QC Thunderdome Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/17/2004 4:05:35 PM   Yo Toad, reading the lot above I was just pondering something. You may know or not know that the main fibre of your posts appears to be rock-solidly based on him providing, and her supporting him whilst being busy with female tasks, all the time being in a somewhat protected environment created by him. Don't take these lines out of their context, they're meant to depict a bit old-fashioned situation which is your prerogative, and nothing wrong with either. Never mind that you want to look under the 'skirt' of the very definitely male initiator of this thread, the colour of his panties quite likely even shocking you, fact remains that the subject choosen should, maybe in a less obvious form, concur with your views. QC would seem to be gentlemanly and posted accordingly, subsequently cornered by your views which, brace yourself, are seen by some ranging from macho and/or vain to rather ludicrous at times. He now responds even more eloquent but also, excuse the pun, hardly off his pedestal opinion-wise. Looking forward to yours.... GLTALLTOAD Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/18/2004 2:44:13 PM   QC, Blame my nasty, devil advocate, "pure western feminist, equality at all costs" hard edges for picking on your "pedestal for women" post....But I never have, never do, nor will I ever build any woman a pedestal she has not done something uniquely heroic to deserve. And even then, the pedestal builder will have his/her name noticeably engraved in large font, bold letter engraved in a prominent view side. Once that one special woman wins my heart, she will have much more than a pedestal to feel help her cherished. Until then, no woman is going to be put on one simply because they are sexy, bringers of life or because they fascinate men. Reading my own opinion on this I now try to judge myself from the feminazi point of view and see why millions of western women would try to hang my from the highest available tree, lol... I am, of my own definition, the "ultimate western feminist" That's why I do not believe in putting women on pedestals without cause. The ability to give life is not a miracle worthy of it. It's nothing more than one of the many characteristics Mother Nature has chosen for the female gender, just as it chose for men to pee standing up, dunk a basketball or be able to refill the water cooler with the new water bottle because we have stronger bodies. Good luck trying to find any woman in your western area willing to build YOU a pedestal for doing those things...HA!! toad GLTALLTOAD Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/18/2004 2:59:18 PM   PS:...:) QC, While I understand your "celebration of women", I see clear gaps that lead to misunderstandings. DO cherish your woman if and when she becomes the QUEEN to your castle!!! Because she will have earned it by then. But going around claiming every woman is worthy of a pedestal is a foolish invitation for unscrupulous women to take advantage of you. toad GLTALLTOAD Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/18/2004 3:06:56 PM   TD, I have always assumed fjaeril is a male castrating female whose private parts have been long frozen due to lack of use, lol.... YES, I would be shocked beyond recovery to see male genitalia under her skirt!!!! And I have nothing against QC's gentlemanly way to express anything he believes. Disagreeing with him, and explaining why, does not mean he is not a gentleman in my opinion. Remember opinions are like noses, we all got one and we all blow it for free...:) toad izifaddag Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/18/2004 9:25:50 PM   Toad, You are wise and truthful. Here endeth the lesson and well learned I might add. Steve GLTALLTOAD Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/18/2004 11:23:51 PM   FINALLY, LOL...:) Someone finally is willing to praise me for the never ending, all knowing wisdom I care to bless among the lesser ones, lol... (C'mon, let me enjoy a "feel like a good person moment, will ya?) Thank you, IZI toad izifaddag Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/19/2004 2:27:48 PM   You are welcome Mr Toad. I am hoping that somebody read that post I put in somewhere about my soon to be ex wife, or as I like to call her "The Bitch". It was regarding this witch/wicca ballbreaking, feminazi, fag magnet so called religion. I am praying that none of you others have suffered through this experience. If you add that to the fact that most women that I come across here in America EXPECT to be put on a pedestal for reasons I have yet to fathom, you could say we have a problem. Let us talk about approachability. I think I just made up a word but I am going to press on anyway. There is a lot of talk about the "bar scene". What bar scene? I don't know no stinking bar scene. Do you mean when you go out alone to find something tasty, visit 10 bars then go home smashed. The only person you spoke to was the barman to whisper endearments such as "I'll have a Bud" and the ever popular "Check please". Why did that happen? I will tell you why. Lack of approachability on the part of American women. Each one of them seems to have taken the concept of self esteem and twisted it into something approaching narcissism. This encapulates this whole thing of putting women onto pedestals. You don't have to they have done it for you. Basically unless you look like Tom Cruise, have a corvette in the parking lot, a good selection of credit cards and an extremely good line of patter you 'ain't going to make it. I proved this so many times when I was younger that I gave up. I think the word 'stumbling' sums up my experience with women. izifaddag Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/19/2004 2:57:39 PM   By way of an example I want to talk about a Colombian woman I briefly had hopes for. I met her through Yahoo Personals before I woke up and smelled the Russian coffee. Anyway, she approached me first. I looke at her picture and said wow she is knockout. She is 44 but looks great. We eventually met, blah, blah, blah. It starts after the 1st date. Oh I can't see you this weekend because.... and on and on etc etc. I figured she just isn't interested so I stopped calling and just relaxed. Imagine my surprise when she called me. I let her stew for 4 days then called back. I sort of made it clear that I would love to see her but just as friends. Naturally I said nothing as to what my real reasons were. I could sense the disappointment. My feeling is this. You had your chance for a bit of English rough and you decided that the world had to revolve around you. WRONG! She was running the typical games that you come across over here. She in her own way had put herself up on this here pedestal and we are all supposed to admire while she chooses like Cleo bloody patra. Fortunately there is a very good alternative. That is why I am here. These FSU ladies are awesome in every sense. izifaddag Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/19/2004 3:00:48 PM   Now I've developed keyboard finger. More codeine. GLTALLTOAD Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/19/2004 6:53:03 PM   ditch the codeine...switch to tequila. toad izifaddag Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/19/2004 8:32:27 PM   I switched to vodka it seemed appropriate. I'm swilling it down now. Crap it's on the frigging keyboard. wessman Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/19/2004 11:38:32 PM   Vodka and codeine, my word not the best combination. Do not go to sleep unless you are in a black out right now then wake up and go to bed before you kill yourself or least you bust your only good heel Man! WHAT WERE YOU THINKING! GLTALLTOAD Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/20/2004 12:52:06 AM   LMAO..!!! want me to send you some Vicadine, lol? toad wessman Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/20/2004 1:09:54 AM   Toad when you said switch to tequila he did not get the ditch part so he thought Vodka would be a good switch but he thought you meant Vodka between pills, a little codeine some vodka a little codeine, some more Vodka. Oh boy if he does come to how do you spell Friggingheadache! 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