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	Create New Topic   My Posts   My forum buddies   Invite friends   Private messages Russian brides > Main Forum > Time is Running Out - Westernization Author Post Ptichka Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/20/2004 7:02:12 PM   QuietCharm, normal people work so hard that they have no time and wish to watch TV. Or like my parents, who watch news or a film in the evening, on our channels, on some ukrainian channels, there are commercials inside the film. And usually such channels show good films. And if there is a commercial they either go to have tea, or switch the channel. Junk food is not advertised. Or it has a very little percentage in commercials. But have to admit that a commercial, once seen, helped me to find a very good shampoo for my hair:) And the shampoo is really great!:) dragster Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/20/2004 7:24:37 PM   QC: if you read my post properly I said that normal people do not take the ads seriously........NOT that they don't advertise!!!. I agree that the ads inform.......but they certainly do not brainwash anybody except the weak willed to buy what they portray.Choice is everywhere,and marketing through the media,be that TV radio or even the web is a very easy way to reach a lot of people,when those same people get that information it's up to them what they do with it. Surely you don't believe that the McD's you ate was "real" food do you? GLTALLTOAD Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/20/2004 7:37:34 PM   Drag, TV, whether it be via formal programming or commercial ads DOES exert influence on the minds of people, particularly the young, who are not experienced in life to know the difference between fiction from marketing and reality. The minds of youngsters ages 12-22 are, like Bill Cosby said, "brain damaged from the day they enter puberty until the time they graduate from college". That particular temporary mental condition is what makes them vulnerable to pernicious and habit forming conditioning at the hands of TV programming and commercials. toad dragster Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/20/2004 7:45:00 PM   toad: I agree with that....of course the young are vulnerable to the influences you mention,and perhaps I should have made my point more clearly.What I was/am trying to say is that by our age we are not conned by all the BS they spout off. BTW...smiles at the Bill Cosby quote....brilliant guy! dragster Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/20/2004 7:45:58 PM   addendum to my first para above...."except the weak willed" GLTALLTOAD Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/21/2004 1:51:48 AM   Drag, By their very nature all young, undeveloped, untrained and still 'cooking' minds are weak willed...all of them eager for influence. THAT's what makes them fertile ground for anything or anyone to lead them toad idiotdetector Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/21/2004 4:49:19 AM   Toad, bull shit. In australia young people are realy speaking out about social and ecological topics now. Young and smart do exist and old and dumb do also, just look around hear. TV has and can infuience people in a bad way but it can also be a great way to inform people of what is going on. There is good and bad media and we can choose to liten to what we like. For example I listen to radio jjj in Australia because 1. great music and 2, informitive on all world issues without the media tycon bull. My choice. We all have it GLTALLTOAD Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/21/2004 10:33:04 AM   ID, I don't know how things are in Australia with young people. I've not been there...yet. (Still waiting for an invite from you to watch you wrestle 'croinky' crocs) But I stick to my opinion about young minds....yes, you will always find those groups of youngsters who excel or speak out in defense of the environment or other worthy causes. But generally, western young minds are fertile ground for TV and other outside influences that we, as grown parents, educators or concerned adults would not regard as positive. toad idiotdetector Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/21/2004 4:14:17 PM   there are week of mind in all ages. Even some older people are still easily infuence by TV ads. On some people they do not work, on other thewy do, regardless of age. I am writeing to a young girl now toad and she is the most sensable I have corresponded with yet. Stick to your old stagnent ideas if you wish. Of coarse people grow but a young week mind usualy ends up and old week mind. It not just up to age, personalities last a life time GLTALLTOAD Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/21/2004 7:54:36 PM   ID, considering the young minds "fertile ground" for marketing ads does not mean they're weak in my book. Only that their lack of life experience makes them easier to influence with it. That's all. toad dragster Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/21/2004 8:56:14 PM   ID: I agree, young weak minds DO tend to mature into older weak minds,and although toad has a point about our surroundings influencing them,your statement about personalities lasting a life time is close enough to the bullseye for me. GLTALLTOAD Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/21/2004 9:55:41 PM   No no no no no....I had a fertile influenceable mind as a youngster before I grew up and became an asshole, lol toad hoenissen Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/22/2004 12:11:37 AM   Re. Power of TV If it does not work, then Kerry and Bush are wasting a lot of money! hoenissen Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/22/2004 12:16:59 AM   Oh, and on a similar note: After the election the winner will say that The Mature and Responsible Electorate has Spoken. and the loser will think that the electorate is stupid and gullible, but will say that The Electorate was Lied to by the Winner's Propaganda. idiotdetector Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/22/2004 6:35:36 AM   Toad, marketing can be an infulence but hopefully so are real people, parents for example. Other older role modeals in young peoples lifes. I have 1 interesting statistic for you. Listen up wess, ststisics. People in Austrlia were conserned about fast food ads on tv making our children fat. They survayes some young people, i think maybe 8-16 year old and asked them there favourate foods. Spagetti bolinase was #1. Steah and potatoes #2, stir fry #3. I cannot remember what all the food were but not fast food was mentions untill #6 which was pizza I think follow by maccers and kfc. All that advertising you would think that McDonalds would be #1 but it was not. Aussies prefered good healthy homemade food. Do not remember seeing that ad that influeced tham GLTALLTOAD Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/22/2004 12:21:21 PM   ID, Run the exact same survey anywhere in the US and you will get shouts of MAC DONALDS & CHUCKY CHEESE every time, lol... Most households today own several TV sets, regardless of the income level....TV is the cheapest babysitter. Period. toad idiotdetector Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/22/2004 4:09:24 PM   No argumnet about the cheap baby sister, my ex would have had to acualy look after her kid if she had no TV GLTALLTOAD Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/22/2004 4:40:16 PM   lol....I win I win I win idiotdetector Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/23/2004 4:52:35 AM   Only about the TV but we never disagreed on that one anyway. You win because all Americans are fools and eat McDonalds? then the victory is yours so revil in it. LOL GLTALLTOAD Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/23/2004 4:15:57 PM   ID, I never said ALL eat junk food in here....I never do. I not only win, I get to be healthy and slim, too lol... Your Reply: Your name:   New Registration Password:   Forgot password?   refresh Code:   Russian brides > Main Forum > Time is Running Out - Westernization
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