same old lonley people, you guys find a Russy yet? I just got done with another one, seem to me there the same as any american women, immature until they reach 27 and spoiled rotten by men.
"But I think my actions do make me a better person. I also believe that my non confrontational aproach is what makes me a better person. One point for anger management."
Yes it is funny how you refuse to even admit you have nothing to back any of your attacks...I am right and I am glad you are finally at least spending some time working on your profound lack of personal skills. And yes I am being non confrontational. If I was in your face trust me you would know it! I am only following up on your stupid comments and your pot shots trying to get the last word. I am still waiting any evidence what so ever to support your outlandish claims. What I have done is to mirror your confrontational attitude to shut you up and for the most part it has. Again please share with us your great insight that gives you the power to judge and make such statements with no proof or feeling you have no need to answer to them....I have said it before and I will say it again you are a coward and a bully and you can't take what you dish out. You find pleasure in tearing others down and when it is returned to you the same you cry like a baby and try to make personal comments that have no merit. Of course you did not have the balls to include the other statements leading to this one but of course our members can look for them selves. I think someone said it best it is a shame when you have to type all in cap letters to get attention to your tantrum. Do you need a nap little one.
" I have served 17 years in those chains I doubt there is any who could compare to the lesbian drummer from the neitherhells that I called my wife. If it were not for the fact I drove her physically crazy I would still be suffering today "
Now that one is funny...everyone I am sure enjoys that. As I was saying your joy in the suffering of others is disturbing but normal of the adolesant mind. And it does show how mean and nasty I am to you and makes such good sense now that you find me so evil. I am so sorry I have wronged you with this statement...lol.
You could save energy by copying and pasting your hahahahahahahahas and you could try to insult me more often...since quality is not there you might as well go for quantity.
Well at least you are searching and trying to justify your hostility maybe you are in the first of your 12 steps. Having a little trouble finding that damning information?
Well then by all means ignore me I have heard you say it so many times but then you can't seem to follow through. Maybe ADD or some other malfunction but drop it if you are finished. I have openly ask what your problem is and you can't say other that your hate. It is established that you are a shallow person not by our debates but your post. It is obvious why you after all these great years of experience are still alone. You always will be because all you care about is yourself. I have told you I am done but I will defend myself every time you make one of your stupid littel jabs because I enjoy making you eat your words. If you would like to ingnore me do so and I promise I will let you. But if you continue to bring up your crap expect to eat a crap sandwich.
You are a seriously disturbed individual with anger issues that have not been solved through any twelve step program.
If you don't regognize your continued confrontational style - you are not reading your own posts. They are raw with unsuppressed anger.
I don't like you, and I won't pretend that I do, even for the sake of supposed harmony in this forum. I cannot pretend something that is not true.
I have never had any sort of psychological counceling and have never had any need to - but your familiarity with at least the terms show that you have.
I have no need or requirement to debate anything that either of us posted - to build an argument supported by past posts, damning or otherwise, written by either of us.
I am perfectly satisfied with my life and all aspects of it.
Any attempt by you to tell me of my supposed progress through some imaginary twelve step program, orattempt to tell me that I am "shallow" or any of the other obviously thinly veiled attempts to get under my skin, are easily recognized by those in this forum as attacks.
Sounds to me like you have had a hard life. I may not like you but I do have sympathy. But you still need to find a way to control your hostility and your feelings of persecution. Russian women are wonderful - but finding one - won't do it alone.
Again jet every time I stated anything other than forum business was in direct response to a personal attack by you to me first. It is you that is hostile and confrontational so as I stated when confronted by a bully you stand up to them and they loose their steam just as you have lost yours. The only thing I have ask you is to suport your statements with some facts as you cannot it takes any credibility away from your statements. You are right you do not have to give such facts as it is obvious here. There is no moderation and no requirement that you know what you are talking about. That is what has started the atmosphere they have of hate here that you and your possi have created and again when I return your hostility you cry the loudest that you have been wronged but you cannot say how and that I am this confrontational ogre but you cannot show one instance that I have not been provoked. You are the one that has problems my friend. Again if you have no beef other than you hate any that disagree or confront you on your empty statements intended only to hurt and insult then say it and move on. I will continue to be just who I am and I am sure you will continue to be just who you are. I have not said you are shallow but that your post lead me to believe so. I find many more direct ways to get under someones skin but have found words very ineffective to do so. Again I invite you to ingnore me and continue with your preaching of hate to all that dare cross your path. You can say what you want but without any facts you become the old fool yelling obsenities I don't put money in his cup and I won't put any in yours.
Shaggy: That you even HAVE predetermined ways to get under someone else's skin, verbally or nonverbally.... doesn't that tell you something. Most people don't plan anything like that. We don't PLAN to be confrontational. You admitted that you DO.
(Read your post again and please try to be objective.)
And shaggy - a "defense" is a way to shield or protect yourself from an attack.
A good analogy might be: Suppose we met in the street and you threw a punch to my head. If I were to "defend" myself. I would move my head, or use a sweeping motion with my arem to defect your punch, or even counter punch at that same moment. Any of those movements on my part would be typical of a "defense".
What YOU do - writing post after, in thread after thread, would be the equivalent of me leaving the situation, slashing your tires, shooting your dog, beating up your mom.
Thats NOT "defense" thats retaliation (ridiculously overblown retaliation).
People who have anger problems often dwell on whatever real or perceived slight they have received - they pump it up and retaliate in a completely overblown fashion while using the "defense" excuse. That seems to be exactly what you do.
(People who have this problem, who happen to be married to "facilitators" end up having real problems.)
Most of us let it blow by. We don't PLAN to get even. We don't dwell on any perceived slights.
I can show instance after instance in even just your quote above where you make little sense. You seem to think that I have to prove (to your satisfaction or to some moderator's) why I don't like what you say. You seem to think that if I even make a statement that you attacked me - if you disagree it becomes adequate provocation (for you anyway) to attack bigger and even better. How does one argue with illogic like that? Nothing I say are you going to agree with?
I'm happy with my life. If you are happy with yours fine. We can try to coexist in this forum acknowledging that each of us dislikes (not "hates" there is a difference) the other.
Quite honestly I will tell you I will not participate in the comments that you make very much. And you are perfectly free not to participate in mine.
But liets (both of us) try to keep the rants under control.
I'll have a cappuccino, please...And turn up the volume a little, as well, so I don't miss a word of the Jet/Shag battle of the haters. Thank you....:)
You are right I have told you that I return your hate on purpose. It is to show you how utterly stupid you have become in your relentless pursuit to do damage to me because I spoke with someone you did not like. In turn when I told you that you were mistaken in your attacks to me you became persanally abusive. That is the root of this discussion not if I like you or not but if you will continue to be personally offensive. As I said I could care less about your little world until you decide to come to mine and try to insult me. I have had no one else here besides toad make personal attacks to me or even acuse me of any wrong doing. As I have said me and toad managed just fine to work around our differences and to correct you I do not hate you I hate how you treat others. I hate how you bully and run. I hate how you provoke a fight and then try to act inocent. I have never said I hate you or anyone else except the one slip about the far left and the french. I don't hate the
french I just think they are ungreatful bastards. I don't hate the left I just think they are going to be the end of the world (maybe they remind me too much of the french). I don't talk about them here as it does not pertain to anything we are here to learn or discuss. You will not find me trying to provoke anyone. I, as I have said, will defend myself. If you need to look it up please feel free but do not assume that I am as stupid as you would like me to be. You admit now that my actions where in retaliation and you are right as I have stated many times that I would not let ingnorance stand. Yes it is childish but sometimes you have to come down to the level of who you are dealing with for them to begin to understand. Again in every post you speak of you will find a smartassed comment by you to provoke my action. Call it defence call it retaliation it is a direct response to your actions. Again as you have done all you can to avoid the simple matter. All I have asked of you is to stop abusing people and their post. I did not say don't be an ass or don't have an opinion I simply said do not attack others personally. For you that means calling names or attacking someone just because. If you don't like the idea thats fine let us know what you think would help but to call someone names that you do not know or have never met and to make broad statements and not give examples to back your behavior is just unresponsible. The US has a whole law practice sucking the blood out of the world because of hate. That is what I object to. Not to you personally or to anyone else but the ignorance of hate and what it breeds. The only reason I continue is when I read your post from the past you have said the same things I have said and in general agreed with many of the points I have tried to make. It is in your blind rage of hate that you cannot see that we agree on much more than you would like to admit. I think you have placed me in one of your groups of people because one of them made kind comments to one of my threads. Another dared to speak with me on other threads. You have just lost track of what your purpose is. Me nor Wess nor anyone else here will make you feel any better no matter how much you feel you must tear us apart. What you seek your anger will never get you. Again make of it what you want but I have made myself perfectly clear if you do not want to eat shit then don't put it on the table.
I have no problem with Wess - at all. We had a disagreement. We got over it.
But you have a tendency to fly off the handle and retaliate with fifteen posts for every post that you think "attacks" you (whether it does or not).
It serves no one any good - if you try and try and try to get even - when the other party doesn't even know that you are supposedly tying to copy their behavior.
Lets drop t right now. Thsi is long winded and getting longer.
I doubt either of us like the other (not "hates" again there is a difference) and that is not likely to change.
Frankly I would bet that each of us (both of us) wishes that the other would just dissapear. Not likely to happen - to the dissatisfaction of BOTH of us.
Do me one favor and DON'T try to tell me why I do what I do, as you did in the post above. I guarantee that you are fishing and you haven't a clue. And I have no inclination or desire to explain my actions.
This entire subject is tedious and fruitless. I have no desire to continue it or to interact further on it.