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	Create New Topic   My Posts   My forum buddies   Invite friends   Private messages Russian brides > Main Forum > hey i.d. Author Post hoenissen Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/3/2004 1:48:16 AM   re " And your point Hoe!" -no point, just making conversation. -following the tradition, that postings don't need to have anything to do with the original subject. -which is what makes it all so entertaining! idiotdetector Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/3/2004 2:25:45 AM   Keeping you posted as this one has turned out weird so I guess I do not care if she sees this. I wrote this girl a letter and she quickly replied. The letter was odd as it said she did not speak english, only Russian and french. She said sorry for this but I was not sure of her intention by saying this. Did she mean sorry it is difficult or sorry we cannot correspond. The real problem was she sent me a very nice photo of herself so I thought, ok I will write back. I got a friend to translate the letter into Russian. I got a reply from Fiance.com saying she did not want to correspond. OK thats fine, but the day I wrote the letter I sent 2 because I forgot to say something and I got another friend to translate something else over the internet. Today she writes to me saying she can translate but she daose not like to because it is much stress for her. I guess that means no again as she again said sorry at the end of it. The weird thing, again she sent me another photo. I am not even close to understanding that one LOL hoenissen Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/3/2004 2:41:09 AM   re " I am not even close to understanding that one LOL " -She is a female. Who understands them? idiotdetector Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/3/2004 6:15:44 AM   true that, true that shaggy47435 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/3/2004 8:31:56 AM   Id I think she is just wanting you to purchase her translation services. jmoluv Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/3/2004 12:31:32 PM   i.d. i cant understand any of these women. they say one thing and then say another. i put down very simple and easily worded questions to make it easy for the interpretor and the lady. and they dont get answered. there is a very solid cement wall at the end of my driveway . i have been attempting to pass my head through the other side . i am almost there. i am the biggest asshole for wasting my time here. if you think you are bigger than me . i challenge you. idiotdetector Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/3/2004 2:42:00 PM   shaggy, I got a friend om ICQ to translate a letter. Thats the letter I got a refusal after I wrote it idiotdetector Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/3/2004 2:44:25 PM   jmo, have you taking you medication today? LOL I understand the problems, but not the reasons, its all getting very weird. It seems I am back to step 1. But its all good, I'm not giving up just yet. I am corresponding with a cou[le now who seem to be normal jmoluv Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/3/2004 4:02:48 PM   i.d. this is the biggest mind fuck i have ever put myself through. my averages from the kind of replys i get are apparent. these ladies arent no different than the women in america. for the most part. we are sold that they are not westernized. that is bullshit. they are rude and manipulators like the rest of them. simple easy questions like do you understand my lifes work or do we need an interpretor if we meet pisses them off. canned letters are insulting, but they just dont get it. . so far the biggest liars in my life are the women not all but most are these fsu ladies or liars. of course most men will disagree, because a lot of men are blinded by a good response , they will never know if the lady or the agency composed it. dont tell me otherwise , you will never know. so what if you get her photo taken when a gift is delivered, it does not mean she is writing. and a lot of men are so quick to protect someone who is lying and make excuses for their defective personalities for women who they never even met. dont say it is who i choose to write to either and what i write to them. my letters are kind and i am gracious . it doesnt matter . and for the most part, men , some not all who think they got honies over there just waiting for you, are blowing smoke up their own asses. you wont know till you step off that plane. and when you think you have known each other so well, she might remember you. go ahead all you space fillers who have not gone over yet, tell me how it really is from just the cyber experience, call it negativsm , i call it realism,call it whatever, this is no better than being a sports junkie or gambling, it is a way for us losers in love at home to dream and make fiance .com thrive. there are some success stories here but very few. goodnite jmoluv Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/3/2004 10:27:18 PM   i.d. do you think i am losing it? what ever gave you that impression. i was screaming at my cement wall not you. shaggy47435 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/3/2004 10:39:59 PM   jmoluv I understand you completely. I have found several real women and they are not the ones I originally expected to be. Most of my most successful relationships so far are with the women that we quickly dissmissed each other at the begining and decided to just be friends. Over time our openess seemed much better than the ones that claim to love you in their canned letters and more sincere than the ones hinting everyother sentence that chocolate and flowers really make them feel feminin. It is the ones that said look your a great guy but that later have really come back around and seem to be the most sincere and open. I might be in for the big surprise but I think the one that in my heart I feel is the one is the relationship that started with I can't accept your adult kids but after a few weeks letters she has completely turned around and finds herself driven to answer every letter I send and every question in great detail. She claims it is my sincerity and that she has never met anyone as sweet and romantic as me. Trust me guys you know me and all I am doing is the same with her I do here I say just how I feel and ask just what I want to know. It helps that she think GW is cute and does not understand the ill will toward him...lol. Sounds like my match but again jmoluv is right it could disolve as quick as it started. I guess if it had a warrantee things would be different but as they say you can't win if you don't play! shaggy47435 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/3/2004 10:43:05 PM   Every source I can find and every serious woman I have talked with all say that they just can't put the faith into it they think it deserves until there is a face to face meeting. I must say I agree you must make the trip to know. I had visions of finding someone and going to meet her and filling out the paper work well I wish. I know understand that it will be several trips to find the one and then who knows. Good luck to all and hang tough jmoluv. jmoluv Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/3/2004 11:54:06 PM   shag , i do ask only what i just want to know, seriously. are these agency interpretors fucking blind? what is the real problem here? a simple letter cannot be translated correctly the first time ? or are these agency people so god dam stupid that they give themselves more credit than they deserve for understanding english? or is the women i am writing to just a simple arrogant dumb ass idiot that needs corrective glasses to read? or , excuse me , i only answer what i choose to answer because i have something all you men want? shag, e-mails are nothing but blind faith. i have been there twice. i have made two close female friends from socials. but that is very contingent to progress. i am not sure.the e-mail contacts i made before those trips were all fluff on the internet and went flat when actual meeting occured. i am saying that this fsu women seeking western men is more hype and perpetual myth driven by institutions as these sights we belong to. my two friends in kiev say they have plenty of friends who want absolutely nothing to do with america or any other mans country. and i have said before the ladies i met at the socials have no interest in e-mail campaigns . they know that the men who fly to socials are the serious ones. they told me personally and so have my two girlfriends. that is free advice from two ukraines gentleman. guys like trad and the few are very lucky. plus they have the finances . so do i. i know what has worked for me. and i must follow my instincts. e-mail as a primary way to finding love does not hold a candle to being formerly introduced to a lady who has shown up or made a journey to another city to hope to be discovered. like i said before i am talking my averages from a whole year. i am not saying it is a total farce. i am just saying from my experiences from a whole year of giving it my best . i have a great income i own a house that is paid off . i have no debt. i am told by women who are quite honest with me that i am just an average man look wise.i can give these ladies a better mode of living, i can give them the love they claim they want and security. but it is not good enough for all these poor female souls who are trying to escape their country from alchoholic men with no future. they will cook you tasty meals and be a loving wife as they all claim and they want mutual respect and harmony. well here is what i have to say,LISTEN YOU STUPID BITCH WHEN YOU CAN PROPERLY READ AND REPLY TO AN E-MAIL, I WILL GIVE YOU THE TIME OF DAY. shaggy47435 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/4/2004 12:12:56 AM   wow jmo you have made some dents in that wall...lol. I am sorry I did know that you had been there I guess I was just trying to cheer you up...lol. The rest was fluff for anyone else that might be feeling the same way. I do feel that over half are nothing but agency fluff and half of what is left is tourism fluff and half of what is left is just plain scam. Like I said it would seem to me the some of the more picky ones seem to be the most real...maybe just as we they are trying to be careful. I don't know but I agree it is a leap of faith and yes it would seem they could answer your questions better. Just know that we support you jmo. As long as you dont put on that sweat jacket and start mailing oil stained packages to anyone. shaggy47435 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/4/2004 12:30:09 AM   I am still pretty sure that in Riga anyway there was some creative writing going on by the staff to entice and fill out short answers to long letters. I have also had women write to me that do not get the pictures or see the profile on fiance.com they just get text letters (not Riga). Of course we did not know until I started writing her new yahoo mail I set her up with. Since then I must admit the letters are a little more difficult with electronic translation I do think it has defenatly changed the style of letter and response we experienced. It was then I understood why she kept asking for pictures and questions she should know from my profile. Also that she is wanting to leave her country. Came out and said I want to live in the US. I must say she speaks her mind and is full of energy. She is from Kiev but lives in Moldova where she is going to school. She does not like Moldova but does not want to go home to the Ukraine. Anyway I think there is progress but I agree with jmo there are far too many games going on with the agencies and I think fiance.com would get more business and have better service if it would weed out about the top half of the worse offenders. Again though we are asking them to take losses in hopes of better gains so I will not hold my breath....lol. shaggy47435 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/4/2004 12:32:44 AM   Well just remember if you do loose all hope nothing parties like a rental...lol jmoluv Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/4/2004 12:52:26 AM   i am completly burned out with writing good wholesome letters from my soul and getting pushed to the side by peasants. goodnite idiotdetector Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/4/2004 4:31:03 AM   I never thought you were angree, with me. But you are angree about something and the concrete things was just out of the blue. You just seemed streesed so I said what I said. And jmo, I agree with you as you know I have also been, 4 times. Lots of fluf and some just write as it is interesting, nothing more. I have writen to a girl, well she wrote to me the first time and every time I ask her about what she wants she dose answer but with " I understand you are serious about me but I just want to remain friends untill we meet and see if someting grows". OK, I understand that but how can I decide if you are the girl I even want to meet if you do not tell me about dreams, wishes. She said the future holds the future and I will see it when I get there. OH MY GOD, dose she not understand that I live so far away and want to know what type of person she is or if we share same hopes for future. This is just 1 example but jmo, I get it OK as I have been though it too. Shame some greener ones will not listen but they will learn when they get there. I know some have just met the girl they emailed and all has worked out. MAybe that will happen to me but so far I have had 2 strikes at that method shaggy47435 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/4/2004 10:25:17 AM   Yes it is a shame...lol Stupid green horns....lol Your Reply: Your name:   New Registration Password:   Forgot password?   refresh Code:   Russian brides > Main Forum > hey i.d.
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