"coze I'm from the west"... This is your words Loopy...
I haven't got a clue if you are from east or west, but something in your writing tells me that there is a bigger possibility that you are from the east rather than the west...
".... the girl itself says she doesn't want any money from me.... "
I have written with some girls from Russia and the east, and one thing that is often repeated is the way they write herself, or himself... "itself"??? I have till now never seen a western person write "itself..."
"now I know what can I expect what is it about!!! I agree with a toad, it was..."
Reading the sentence above I also feel this is very much like the english I read in letters from Russian women I have written... My english is far from perfect, I am not an englishman/American.. But people like me and others that have english as a second language or is EFL speakers (english as foreign language) have different ways to write because of the nature our motherlanguage is built up, and reading your stuff Loopy, I think you are from the east!!! Definitively! I agree with you Thunderdome, I also think this is the scam, the whole thread!! I did not read closely before you mentioned it... When I read it through again I find it very much like "Russian-English.."
No, I don't Jet - I'm poor, remember? Then again, stupid also, which borders on gullible, so maybe you're right.
Hey, let's be honest here - nice try! At least different than icafe-cost, visa & tickets, sick families, being pushed from busses etc. I appreciate inventive minds, and an attempt to 'broadcast' that expensive exceptions can be true (who'll argue anyway?) is commendable.
Hey Norway, 'close but no cigar' is what you were looking for I bet ;-)
Where is Loopy from? It cannot be UK or America or even Aussie. His speaking patterns resemble Russian.... I think hunder might have A valid point here.
I have been learning russian... I got some decent audio CD's... it really isnt that hard ~)) But anyways thats what I think.
I bought the Pimsleur CDs - Comprehensive Russian I. About $150 discounted from around $300 on ebay.
There are 16 CDs in the set - and so far I have actually gotten around to listening to No. 5.
Of course these 16 CDs are not REALLY Comprehensive because after I finish them I am supposed to buy Really-Comprehensive Russian II and Really-Extremely-No-Kidding-Around-This-Time-Comprehensive Russian III. Each of which is also about $300 but discounted to some degree on ebay.
I understand that these CDs are SUPPOSED to be the best as far as actually learning to speak Russian but there is very scant written material included. With Comprehensive Russian I, for instance, there is a tiny pamphlet that contains little more than the Russian (Cyrillic) alphabet.
Earlier in this thread I mentioned something (what this thread is supposed to be about anyway) about my friend who I strongly suspect is being scammed by a woman into paying hospital bills. She has supposedly lost her memory and doesn't know who she is. She cannot be contacted of course, because "It would upset her."
A "friend" he made in Ukraine who he actually met as his translator seems to be in on it. My lady also knew her and was aware of several schemes she was involved in or suggested. This woman, his "trusted friend" is now acting as the go-between, working with my friend, her sister and the supposed amnesia victim, that my friend professes his love for and continues to send money he does not have for her treatment and the translatos services.r
He has been advised by his US based attorney - who deals exclusively with FSU cases - that he is being scammed. He doesn't want to believe it.
I have advised him that I believe he is being scammed. He doesn't want to believe it.
Lastest news - is that this poor soul, his fiance, has been sent to Moscow to see a specialist. Of course this specialist requires extra money as does the travel cost. Who do you suppose is kicking in?
I feel sorry for this guy but cannot get him to see the light.
PDQ linguaphone... only 4 CD's for beginners but they are very easy to understand and I seem to be picking it up pretty fast.... After 2 weeks I need the advanced course.. I will get it from these guys because it seems very clear and easy to follow.
IF YOU SEND MONEY TO ANY WOMAN YOU HAVE NOT MET IN REAL LIFE ...YOU ARE A FOOL!!!!!
IF YOU FALL I LOVE WITH SOMEONE YOU HAVE NOT MET IN REAL LIFE ....YOU ARE A FOOL!!!
IF YOU SEND MONEY TO ANY WOMAN WHO YOU ARE NOT MUTUALLY IN LOVE AFTER MEETING AT LEAST ONCE....YOU ARE A FOOL!!!
IF YOU IGNORE THE ADVICE AND WARNINGS OF YOUR ATTORNEY, YOUR FRIENDS, EXPERIENCED MEN WHO ARE DOING OR HAVE DONE THE SAME AND EVEN PROFESSIONAL AGENCIES SPECIALIZING IN FSU DATING OR MARRIAGE...YOU ARE SUCH A FOOL THAT GIVING UP ON YOU IS THE ONLY RECOURSE LEFT TO ANYONE WHO CARES!!!!
I see u didn't get my point about smb. being unfortunate!!!! anyway, u r right I'm not american, or british or australian ...... I'm originally from middle of europe .... so I'm very sorry for my poor english and putting myself into the far west, part of your dream world ......
however, I have lived and learnt my english in australia and in the uk. and I'm aware of my 'russian', swedish, german, indian accents ..... u don't have to rub it into my face. I can read russian. cannot speak, FYI!!!!
well, toad. I'm very sorry if u can't read, but we met; the girl is real ... twice. not a long time ago. and I gave her money every day, we went shopping, eat in restaurants, went into an opera house, she can ask me any time for money. I don't mind. I like her, I trust her. I had some doubts, for sure, hearing about medical costs, but thats gone ....... I even want to buy her a house, ......, pay for university .....
I've no more words. u seems pathetic accusing smb. of beeing scammer!!! u never ask any questins. how do u know???? have u been in kiev and been treated in hospital ..... is it 'coze my poor english??? puting words as I want????
it was me who accused you of having a fake email addy, and that still is true.
If you don't think she's a scammer then who are we, you've met her, twice! But by what you write I am now convinced you're an idiot, because why should you PAY a girl to keep her on your side? Go ahead, buy her a mansion, and fill the garage with some cars also.
Just one thing - YOU came here telling your wallet was shrinking, and you asked what you should do. You've been told that, extensively I might add, but if you lack ears, pay through your nose for a girl, young by the sounds of it, just to keep her on your side, then go FY - but don't ask a forum with people who don't keep sluts as expensive pets.
Do I make myself clear Loopy?
Ahh.. please.. Don't scare Loopy away :)
I love a laugh, and I am practically LMAO of this guy... Or whatever he/it is...
Loopy.. you are killing me... hahahaha
Go ahead.. Buy her a house.. haha
This is just too much.. Even for a calm Norwegian... LOL
Why don't you buy her an apartment in norway as well? Then I wouldn't have to travel so far every time I am visiting "your" girl.. hmm.. Why do they call it apartments? I mean they stick together and are not apart at all.. hmm
Loopy.. you have just made my day.. Laughing my way off to work.. hahaha
thankyou loopy, I have not laughed that much this week and you have made my day. Just because you meet her and she is real, that means she is honest? Can someone help me up fromthe floor I am dying
so you guys think it is funny that some twit who has met a girl somewhere, who paid her every whim, who sponsored her habits, who kept on paying for whatever reason she or her friend told him, who in fact writes he does not mind paying all this, KEEPS on forking out even after he met her for the second time? I think it's incredibly sad, unbelievably stupid, but what's more important also a display of a lack of any morals.
Buy whatever you like Loopy, keep thinking with your dickhead, and I hope one thing for you - that she'll literally will take you for a ride. At least you'll have scored a bit then, but don't complain here it wasn't worth it.
the thing I find the funniest Thunder is not the story itself, but the fact that he came looking for an opinion and some advice and everyone has come to the same conclusion but he continues down his road to poverty. I too think it is sad but he has been told, thats the funny bit
in fact Jet has an aqcuintance who's similar to Loopy, going against all odds and keeps funding her.
These guys are convinced they're in love or are kept on a leash with sex, both maybe. THAT's the sad bit - sounds very experienced doesn't it? They've got no hope in hell, but maybe they're worth a laugh as you say, ditto Norway. But now, with such morons abound, you think it strange that some take advantage of that? Scammers are not born, the're invited by some. No wonder they are so transparent, some men are blind.
You're right thunder...I do have a friend who is going through a similar situation. It seems to me that he cannot justify leaving her (if that makes any sense) in her time of need. He seems to have no concept that while there IS need on her part (Ukraine is a very poor country) she has fewer qualms about his well-being.
I met the girl in question when we were in Ukraine. To me the most obvious thing about her was that she was so incredibly quiet.
He was head over heals for her on almost first meeting and began the application process for a fiance visa petition before even returning to the States.
The first obvious sign that something was wrong was when his attorney found out that she had actually been married twice before and she claimed to have only been married once.
It seems that the second time was only to acquire an apartment in Ukraine. That it somehow slipped her mind was one red flag. But that she had actually married to acquire an apartment was an even bigger red flag.
I would have steered well away from her at that point. The rest of the story is written earlier in this thread. If you are intersted you can read it yourself.
But its amazing what a guy will fall for and what some women (from any country) will pull.