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	Create New Topic   My Posts   My forum buddies   Invite friends   Private messages Russian brides > Main Forum > How long before proposing and should you...?!?! Author Post Ditto Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/28/2004 9:11:23 AM   2 comments. First, I think you're wrong Ice. I loved my wife more than she loved me, so from her perspective it should have worked out. Second, I would be curious to know from our FSU contributors how long a typical courtship is your countries. Does it vary depending on the age group? I will be leaving for Kiev on Thursday (30 Dec) with my 5-year-old son to meet my lady and her 7-year-old son. If things work out, we will probably get engaged and start the paperwork. There are too many assumptions and questions to go into greater discussion. A question I have is about the proposal. I obviously don't want to make a cultural faux pas during the proposal. Is being down on one knee seen as romantic as here in the States? If I let my heart speak, will that be sufficient? Do I need to ask father and mother first, even though they have no desire to meet me? Any shared experience would be appreciated. Annika77 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/28/2004 9:24:32 AM   Do you really belive that such thing as typical courtship exist!! And I dont absolutely understand why you worry so much about local costums. You are american, shes going to live in america. You must act as you want, I never excpect from my boyfriend some local behavour, because hes brit and I love him because he is what he is! GLTALLTOAD Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/28/2004 12:08:11 PM   Finally!!!! Something that Annika and I agree in full, for a change...:) Ditto, Feel comfortable telling any woman you may be interested in what YOU thinks is the proper courtship time before marriage. Nothing else matters. She will accept you or reject you if she doesn't agree with you. But have no doubts she will respect your assertiveness. Like Annika said, she is going to live in your home, your town, your state, your country...and under your household leadership, isn't she? One of the worst mistakes any man can make is to pussyfoot around when communicating and discussing topics that are important to HIM, or refuse to listen to topics that are important to HER. toad Bagira Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/28/2004 5:45:17 PM   Ditto, Listen to the Toad. And you will have a lot of woman in your life. Each other month the new one. Just do not pay attention on her needs like Toad suggest. Ptichka Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/29/2004 12:27:03 PM   Ditto, it doesn't mean much how you will make your proposal, it means more that you speak from your heart! Some girls, me included, think that standing on one knee...is something from the medieval times, and not the need for this thing in the modern time!:) Asking the father and mother??? Are you going to live with them??:) If you're going to live with your woman, then ask her and not her parents:) Though you will have to meet them still, as I bet they would like to meet the future husband of their daughter:) Anyway good luck! GLTALLTOAD Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/29/2004 8:38:36 PM   bag, What type of distorted glasses are you using to read my posts?? When did I say a man should not pay attention to his woman's needs? Quite the contrary, he should pay VERY close attention to them, because if her needs do not match his ability or willingness to provide for them they should not be together. Period. I hope you get well soon, bag...your blind resentment is affecting your vision now. toad GLTALLTOAD Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/29/2004 8:41:47 PM   Pitchka, You'd be surprised to know how important it is for american women today to see their men on their knees begging for their hand in marriage. toad Bagira Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/29/2004 10:43:33 PM   "Ditto, it doesn't mean much how you will make your proposal" Propsal to me was over a telephone after 2 weeks of our meeting. I was happy and I was happy in our marridge. GLTALLTOAD Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/29/2004 11:16:56 PM   Bag, Did his proposal come two weeks after your FIRST meeting? Don't try to convince us you had a happy marriage...it ended. And according to you, only his two girl daughters were to blame for your marriage failure. toad Bagira Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/30/2004 9:39:15 AM   Yes, Toad The proposal come tow weeks after our first meeting. He was not American. And he did not have any daughters. Thunderdome Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/30/2004 12:35:59 PM   Tadpole, somewhere along this thread you seem to have lost your manners. Not that they're very renowned or something, and I agree that proper interpretation of your post could/would have avoided this loss, but keep in mind that the default language substantially differs? I'll be honest, my Russian sucks. How's yours? Be a nice Toad now, come on, or I'll send the Stork - and greasing the roof won't help... ;-) Bagira, were you married more than once maybe? It seems that you are confusing some here, that or their Altzheimer is playing up :)) Bagira Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/30/2004 3:28:46 PM   Thunderdome, I was married one time. I was alone for 2 years and then I just fell in love with American guy. There are a lot of cultural difference and what I understand as love and care was only politeness. He was the second person in my life. I am not sure that I will see him again but I still love him. Thunderdome Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/30/2004 3:52:14 PM   Bagira, you know, men will never understand when you say he's gone, he was not displaying love but politeness only, and then you, in the same breath, state you still love him? You puzzle me Milady, you really do. But I hope all will come to a good end, and, having a New Year on the doorstep, I wish you a far better year than this one! Ptichka Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/30/2004 3:52:34 PM   Toad, I really don't believe that it is so important for American women...but I will trust your words, as I myself never communicated with American women about that:) And of course never proposed them:))))))) But I don't understand why it is so important?? Is it because of the films or fairy tales??? Can somebody explain that to me??:)))))))) scottlf Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/30/2004 4:00:15 PM   It's romantic traditionalism. Why do men give flowers to women? It's just a classical tradition. Can't say I know the origin of it. Thunderdome Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/30/2004 4:04:56 PM   Birdie, I will, Toad's gone fishing, and knowing him his fly is still open :)) You see, when men propose they're nervous as hell, they never really know if they make the right decision. Especially Americans (let me do some bashing also :) because the laws in that country will entitle their Bride to take them to the cleaners (as you might have noticed). Now during that cleaner-bit a lot loose their style and/or manners, so the least they can do is proposing in style, and display some gentlemanly manners. "Heads over Heels" normally boils down to "On a Knee" only, and only the real cool dudes mumble something like "Oh yeah, before I forget, you want to marry me?" :))) Cultures differ Ptich', and here some remnants of the classics remain. Proposing on a knee is a romantic part of that, asking her parent also, and carrying her over the threshold too. But times are a-changing, and things have become more casual. However, they DO display good manners if somebody adheres to them, and are often remembered for life. Ptichka Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/30/2004 4:15:09 PM   Thank you Thunder! You explained it very well to me! I understand that cultures differ..I just wanted to understand why it is such a need of proposing in such a way!:)) nasfan6 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/30/2004 5:03:12 PM   Ptichka We american men get used to the bended knee, because when it comes divorce time we have no knees left scottlf Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/30/2004 5:28:20 PM   Not true. At divorce time, we are on BOTH knees! (and bent over) jjbarrier Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/30/2004 10:42:55 PM   Also proposing on the knee sets the stage for the relationship later, with the man supposed to serve the needs of the woman with no questions asked. Your Reply: Your name:   New Registration Password:   Forgot password?   refresh Code:   Russian brides > Main Forum > How long before proposing and should you...?!?!
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