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	Create New Topic   My Posts   My forum buddies   Invite friends   Private messages Russian brides > Main Forum > Women with children Author Post harry Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/22/2002 5:50:03 PM   Thanks for the D cap monolith. One thing I've learned overhere is never interfere in discussions, even if silly questions ask for silly reactions. I'll wear my cap with pride. Thanks. And what about the subject: when you fall in love with a RW, her children are more than welcome even if we have to go through a wagon of formalities. harry Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/22/2002 5:50:34 PM   Thanks for the D cap monolith. One thing I've learned overhere is never interfere in discussions, even if silly questions ask for silly reactions. I'll wear my cap with pride. Thanks. And what about the subject: when you fall in love with a RW, her children are more than welcome even if we have to go through a wagon of formalities. harry Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/22/2002 5:59:07 PM   Thanks for the D cap Monolith. One thing I learned in this forum is never to interfere in silly questions even if the ask for silly reactions. I'll wear my cap with pride. And what about the subject: if I fall in love with a RW her children are more than welcome, even if we have to trough a wagon of formalities. harry Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/22/2002 6:01:21 PM   It seems that something went wrong with the email. Do I get a second D cap now? I prefer a Heineken. monolith Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/23/2002 11:16:34 AM   No Second D cap, infact you are dethroned of your first, you made me laugh. Oh, I note that now and again a sense of humour helps, maybe even just to get some people to put pen to paper. But it is always a serious moment about women with children as I have experienced several times and in doing so became very much attached to the child and it was so very difficult when I knew I would never see them again. That is a risk, bringing someone over with a child and then losing not one but two or more people you love. smkeyes Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 9/26/2002 11:35:00 PM   Olga when writing to a RW with a child is it polite to write a letter to the child asking them how they would feel about posiably leaving there country? Andrei Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/6/2002 10:10:12 PM   smkeyes,(sorry Olga's away I will try to answer) - if it is politely written, it is certainly ok - it would be rude to ask how they would feel about possibly NOT leaving the country :) But seriously, there's nothing wrong with it, as long as your first letter is addressed to RW though bushbaptist Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/21/2002 5:56:36 AM   As far as I am aware, if the lady with children is from Russia(the only country I can comment about-I was married to a Russian Lady) wants to bring her children overseas and can not find the father (not uncommon!) all she has to do is to get a court order signed and noted by a J.P. equivalent. poppabob Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/7/2003 4:32:11 PM   Hi, can anyone help with this dilemma please. I have a Russian Fiancee, Marina, she has a great 12 year old daughter Kira who I get on with really well. At the end of August Marina and I went to the British Embassy to apply for settlement visas for them. We were successful and were told that all we needed was a notarised letter from Marina's former husband allowing her daughter to leave. Even though he has had no contact for 4 years he refuses to give permission and says he never will. Does anyone know the law in this area and any way to get round this, such as me adopting her. Kira is keen to come over to UK and none of us can understand the attitude of her "new Russian" father. Suggestions please. Thunderdome Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/12/2003 1:46:24 PM   Poppabob, assuming Marina will not lie and state the father is missing then I assume he better has paid his maintenance so far, and will do until Kira matures. If not he's got no leg to stand on, especially having had no contact with her for four years, and if so you should contact a Russian attorney to find out what can be done. Yeah, that's going to cost you money, and the outcome is not certain. Why don't you buy the father? Might be cheaper, outcome guaranteed, cheque on signature. All he can say is NO, and even the worst cursing you won't understand :) Thunderdome Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/12/2003 3:28:21 PM   Poppabob, another way of doing is to go and see this father. With a translator, unannounced, cold canvassing-style, and definitely without Marina. Tell the guy in plain honest language what you want, you love both and would like them to come to you where they’ll have a good future. Tell him you're there only to ask him in person for his permission, and this might earn you his respect. Prepare to negotiate there and then to offer visits from Kira to him, expensive for you mind, just to convince him you're serious. He might have a bad relationship with Marina, how would you really know, and bypassing her and focusing on his child, apparently his only handle, is a good way of tackling this. He might just say Yes. If No you can offer plain money which he gets on placing his notarized signature. dante Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/17/2003 2:28:48 PM   Ok.I've been reading along here for a month or so. I'm interested in the perspective of the group and some of the more experienced members about Russian and Ukranian women with children. I'm divored with children that i have with me every other weekend. Couple of basic questions. Is it practical to really find a Russian or Ukranian who can get through the hurdles to exit their country with their children? Are things completely different in each country? Finally, for women without children, how would they view things with a US man with kids? My kids are fairly young (between 4-7 years). Thoughts and comments please. Thunderdome Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/18/2003 1:49:31 AM   Dante, first of all things for every woman will be different, not really important where she's from. The hurdles are different every time, but probably less complicated when the kids are younger. Secondly, the younger the kids the easier they will adjust, but also the easier the adults will adjust tot them. Especially language-wise, but also regarding acceptance of authority, part of being a parent, but this part better be earned rather than forced. My feeling always is that because kids are involved there is even less room for errors, and a possible mismatch between you and her might have more serious consequences than when it's only the two of you. Plenty of homework ahead, and you better use the maximum period of residency allowed for her/them to make up your minds. But also, you go over more than once and familiarize yourself with your future family, for longer periods, especially when the children are a bit older. Bottom line? Absolutely possible, and there are many women who will want to do it. But you (plural) better do your homework properly, for the simple reason that you anticipate you will not only become a partner but a parent simultaneously. dante Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/20/2003 8:03:44 AM   Thunderdome. I agree with your assessment that things would be easier with younger kids and that caution is the order of the day. My question is basically this. Is it a requirement for the Ukranian and Russian govt. that permission be obtained in order for the kids to leave the country? If so, how often is this an issue? Any personal or other experiences from members on here? Thunderdome Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/21/2003 2:51:20 AM   Dante, dunno, no experience. From what I've read it differs, but you specifically point towards a geographical region (unless you mean the whole ole' USSR) - why not ask her to find out(if there is a specific 'her')? Olga & Others ???? Olga Moderator send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/22/2003 12:48:42 AM   As far as I know, this is not the reguirement of Russian or Ukranian government, this is a requirement of the countries that give visas. Even when getting a tourist visa for going to Europe. If one is brining kids with him he should have a written permission from the second parent. poppabob Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/10/2003 10:54:00 AM   Hi Thunderdome, thanks for your suggestions and it's worth considering just turning up as I have advice from a Russian lawyer that it is a legal requirement in Russia to gain the father's permission for a child to leave. As for offering money, he is very wealthy and not likely to respond to this. One of the problems I have is that I'm not sure whether Marina is telling me the full story, won't pass on his details to me or put my suggestions to him so it looks as if I'm stuck in the middle. Thunderdome Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/10/2003 1:06:04 PM   Poppabob, hold on a minute... Marina will neither pass on his details or forward your plea to him? And only the fact that Kira's not allowed to leave keeps Marina from leaving? Jeff, if you really want something badly, you'll do anything possible won't you? I mean, passing on the details of your ex to your next is something not commonly done I guess, but fact is that he appears to be the Kingpin in your common future hence plain contact-details (name & number) I'd regard as normal. Doing a bit more homework maybe? woodpecker Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 4/26/2004 6:15:28 PM   My wife is a Russian citizen and will soon be applying for a visa to live with me in the United Kingdom, she has a 4 year old child from her first marriage. She went to court to get permission to take her son out of the country and they said that her former husband has no rights to the child. Do we still need to get a letter of permission from the father? idiotdetector Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 4/27/2004 4:00:21 AM   To all In Russia you do not need permission from the father, I know because I have been in this situation. The Russian orthorities do not get involved with tho whole proccess, it is up to the country that the lady is going to to deal with all documents. The only time that you encounter problems is when the father has visitation access though the legal system and he himself does something to inhibit the child leaving the country,which is his god given right as a father, but this is rarely an issue with russian men as we understand from other strands in this forum. Your Reply: Your name:   New Registration Password:   Forgot password?   refresh Code:   Russian brides > Main Forum > Women with children
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