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	Create New Topic   My Posts   My forum buddies   Invite friends   Private messages Russian brides > Main Forum > HOW TO AVOID BEING SCAMMED! Author Post Thunderdome Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/17/2005 6:05:15 AM   Yesss... I Have In Vivid imagination what you're referring to, and you better then also take the latest Windows into the equation. You're referring to those exceptions whereby aforementioned rumours are very true indeed, localised and concentrated even. A female friend of mine, living in Dubai, refers to them as Belly-dancers, a term in stark-ers contradiction to what her hubby calls them ;-) Hookers you find across the globe Free, and if you can find them for free then this I'd regard as a so-called Red Flag. But don't worry too much, normal common sense will sort such out, and 'abundant' they aren't. tradman Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/17/2005 7:04:52 AM   common sense JackPeas Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/17/2005 1:50:02 PM   Yes it was a joke and no I wouldn't ever consider paying for sex and never have done. You'd never show a picture of your wife to a mate Thunder... Why? You should be proud of her, I would be. In the UK couples often go out together and eye up each others partners, that's natural. They'd better "be easy" because I can spot a girl playing hard to get in a New York minute. If she wants a serious relationship, sex is part of that and should always come early on, pure and simple. I'm no mug and if FSU girls are going to compete with available UK girls and I'm dating one a week here, then I hope they don't have a no-sex before marriage rule, because it won't wash with me. Why am I not satisfied with UK girls, they don't make good wives and they tend to be older, uglier and more work oriented. Feel free to flame me now... Thunderdome Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/17/2005 2:17:26 PM   JP, a pic of her I'll even hang in my office, and of course even strangers will see her there. However, she won't be wearing a wet T-shirt, rest assured of that. Sex before marriage I also think is normal, and rest assured that FSU women are no exception. Not at all I think, but that will differ on who you ask I'm sure. But I term a slut as being easy, and judging by your sounds we seem to differ in this meaning somewhat. Because of a popular rumour terming all Russian women as sluts (I've heard that often!) I said what I did, for anyone going over with this misconception in mind will be woken up hard. I dunno the UK girls, at least not the local one's, but if they're anything like the New Zealand one's - then you've got my sympathy :)) JackPeas Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/17/2005 2:54:49 PM   Now that's racist TD about NZ girls, but no UK birds are pretty much like the Ruskies in looks, perhaps less 'industrial' in fact in some case. When I say 'indusrial' I mean Leonid Brechnev looks. US girls seem to be better than average, I guess it's all those Italian and Hispanic connections, good food and fresh air. The main difference is FSU girls seem younger and have lower expectations so you get a better bang for your buck it would seem. More likely to be a traditional wife than a career girl. Ladies feet are smaller so that they can get closer to the sink, did you know that? In the UK I'm dating girls about 30 to 35 and I'm just turned 42. FSU so far the age range is 18 and up. I don't know what the hell I'm gonna do with an 18 year old on my arm. I think I need to start at 25 minimum or I'm gonna look like a perv and I guess I would be. I never said a 'wet' "T" shirt by the way, just a tight one, now you brought that idea in yourself. I'm pleased to hear the no-sex before marriage rule doesn't apply on the whole. That would be a showstopper. GLTALLTOAD Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/17/2005 5:01:42 PM   Jack Peas, You must stop reading the US print version of People magazine INMEDIATELY...!!! US women better than average...????? The average US woman is 5'4" and weighs over 155 pounds. One out of 3 people in the states is obese (not just overweight), which simply means that among women, every third one of them weight as much as the other two put together. Latin women of Spanish descent in the US are fatter than their caucasian counterparts, specially in regions with high latin density populations...you'd puke your guts out if you see the massive amounts of cheap, fly-by-nights low quality fast food joints available in these areas. McDonals and Burger King and gourmet restaurants for these people. Combine these trends with the "I'm large and in charge" bitchy, selfish anti-male disposition typical of most american women and there is no way in hell you can call the US girls 'above average' in looks, sex appeal or just about anything positive...except willingness and ability to work on their careers. Believe me, I wish it was different. I have to live among these cows. toad GLTALLTOAD Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/17/2005 5:09:40 PM   Jack, Regarding the age of the owmen you date, I'd suggest you do what Jetmba has done, lol... If memory serves me correctly, he traded-in his one 40+ western woman for two early 20 years olds from Moldova and Latvia. Btw, a few months ago my friend from Siberia was considering a job change...so I sent her a white sleeveless t-shirt with "YOU'RE FIRED - The Donald" from The Apprentice TV show printed on the front. She looks cute and sexy in it. It's not hard to find an appropriate situation where you can send something simple, funny and original without spending a fortune that can help you dispel most doubts you may have about the person to whom you're writing or talking in FSU toad Norwegian Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/22/2005 3:20:04 AM   Lately I have ( for some reason ) been talking with girls that use msn, yahoo messenger or some other messenger software (icq, aim, aol..). After we have spoken there a lot, and in that way got to know each other by chatting live in this messenger software I feel I get to know them a little bit better than by weekly letters.. When I haven't been around my computer I have left my mobile/cellphone number on the screen (as my nick..), that way I have gotten their phonenumber without even asking.. suddenly there is a sms saying "miss talking to you.." Now you know her number, and can do some research if you dont trust her 100%. By the way, the messenger is also easy to use for sharing pictures, webcam and more :) Nice to buy her a webcam after you have met, and you know this is the girl you want to put the effort into make your woman. So nice to sit and chat, and watch her smile at the same time :) (if she got internet at home..) Good luck Annika77 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/22/2005 5:27:58 AM   I got opinion from that site that some of "girlfriends" of these guys even dont know how to use computer and dont speak english, somebody in agencys make all job for them. What we speak abput messenger here!! Norwegian Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/22/2005 7:48:30 AM   Annika77, Yes, I think you are right in some ways. A lot of these girls don't have the opportunity to have their own computer.. But some of them have. After reading my post over again, I just want to add that I have never had to do any research... I guess i am more the type that wants to trust somebody. I feel somehow that the minute I am starting to investigate someone, most of the magic is gone... Almost like betrayal.. (But as you know Annika, I am mostly talking with girls from Estonia, and things are a little different there) Just don't send money, that must be the clue here :) Annika77 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/22/2005 8:52:03 AM   Trust is most important in relationship, I met my boyfriend first time in hes country, its totally opposite what people teach here (meet her in her home town). I dont think dont send money is the clue. But you are right all kind of research will ruin everything. I think nordic people are very stright they ask always direct questions. Its seem to me lots of americans dont ask direct questions and ask in message boards answers instead of asking from girl direct. What about taking photo with flowers and T-shirts and todays newspaper...if somebody is going to do that its clear that person dont trust me and for me this relationship is over. But if I dream about green card...maybe not:) aussieman41 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/22/2005 9:19:57 AM   When looking for a FSU girl you need to be realistic about your expectations in a woman. If you are 40 and she is 24 you need to ask yourself, is this real or a scam. I got suckered by a 24 year old beauty from Kiev, 182cm or almost 6 feet tall and I spent over $500 on a woman I have never meet and I was in fairy land thinking that she would be interested in a 40 year old man, 13cm shorter than her with a small overweight belly. It was all lies on her part and it was too good to be true. This is when you get scammed..fall in love with a picture..dont think with your head but another smaller part of the body instead. Guys be realistic here..have a look at yourself and appearence and the age difference and use the yard stick..would a woman in your country have you that is similar to the FSU woman you write to? Women are women..does not matter what part of the world they come from and no woman is that desperate to marry a frog especially if she has model like beauty. BE REALISTIC! AND YOU ARE NOT AS LIKELY TO GER SCAMMED! small words from an occassionally wordy person Annika77 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/22/2005 9:53:56 AM   What a good post! freebird1967 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/22/2005 11:16:03 AM   Haha I went the complete other way. I tend to shoot the model types down ~((( especially if they write me first, In fact starting out here I offened A really pretty girl ( imagine that, me offend someone! ) because I was suspicious.... remember also that men and women are different... they dont gage things the way we men do ( looks first ) In my experience women tend to look for perfection, but not in the way you think , Maybe its A mans eyes or nose hell it could be anything. But its one perfect thing... but whatever it is they look for it each to theyre own taste. Now I am not saying if your 400 pounds 5'2" that your gonna get A model.... What I am saying is dont do what I did at first being over suspicious , Aussieman has A good point but it has to be balanced. Dont bank your heart on one gambit, Just like them writing other letters why wouldnt you have another contact or 2 in the same city? Thats not unreasonable, if it doesnt work out you didnt just blow thousands of dollars to sit around and mope. I mean imagine how many bullshit letters they get from guys who have no means what so ever to go see them? You know the window shoppers, Same for us be prepared ~)) danny3777 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/22/2005 1:28:40 PM   HOW TO AVOID BEING SCAMMED! Engage your brain before opening your gob, doesn't appear to be too much of that around these parts! Why send flowers? Why write letters? Why settle for a cyber relationship? Get your ass on a plane and get out there. Thunderdome Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/22/2005 5:09:40 PM   "Get your ass on a plane and get out there" That may work, however can be done too soon also. I've had contact with someone who seemed too good to be true, and in some ways still is. We still have contact, and probably will have for a long time to come. Another very true statement is "Trust your instincts", and when something feels not perfectly right (especially across a language barrier) there probably is a niggle somewhere. You tell me what to ask, but don't think the perfect set of questions or subjects tackled exist. Try suffering from an incurable disease I was unaware of, absolutely not lied about, just never mentioned in the beginning? In plain financial terms I saved a lot by not going too soon, however regarding personal matters I still dunno what I've missed. She's gorgeous, utterly tender and exceptionally feminine, attentative, loyal and responsive, in many ways better than I've come across so far. Bottom line here is you don't hop on a plane too soon, even if you live on her doorstep. Sorting the wheat form the chaff is what has to be done first, especially when multiple contacts exist, the case normally. Then choose and visit, in contradiction to just hopping on a plane and cold canvassing. Plenty of prospectors are too wary and/or too unintelligent to be able to differentiate or interpretate the mails they get, but they better learn or are taken advantage of. Visiting too soon can be part of that. freebird1967 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/22/2005 5:34:25 PM   I see martin is starving for attention again. Starvin Martin HAH it fits! Yea just hop on A plane, go meet one girl, find out its A guy because you did no research and enjoy being robbed or just plain wasting your time! Good advice Martin! "Engage your brain before opening your gob, doesn't appear to be too much of that around these parts!" You know... that statement was exactly true the moment you posted! Before that it seemed like people actually trying to help eachother.... danny3777 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/22/2005 5:55:49 PM   One who engages one's brain is, as a rule of thumb, able to detect girls from guys etc. I've never travelled only to be stood up, meet with a huy, get scammed etc. That's probably because I use my brain. I'm not an attention seeker, I don't need attention from anybody except one and she knows who she is. I'm not even going to make a 'cheap shot' about the people here, who it seems would rather talk about it than do it, cheap shots seem to be a part of this site, that I'm not. I challenge anyone here to itemise a single fact that I've said that is incorrect. You won't because you can't, you would rather 'loudmouth' it to the effect that you know better. You know better than who? Than me? You might pretend you do but you don't know me, you don't know anything about me. I'm not saying I know better than you, I don't know you, but then I'm not the loudmouth! southerngentuk Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/22/2005 6:57:37 PM   "Get your ass on a plane and get out there" The best way not to get scammed is to let things take there natural course. It starts with e-mails then that first phone call, and if things are write you soon find yourself calling russia 4-7 times a week. then you no its time to get that plane. Dont send money, send yourself. But only when it feels right. i think most Gents here who have there fsu lady`s will agree that when you have found the right lady things will just happen regardless of your plans. danny3777 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/22/2005 7:30:06 PM   How will you know how you will be when you are together just by letters? The longer the period of letter writing then perhaps the longer the time wasted. By travelling, not sitting behind your keyboard, even if it does go horribly wrong it it being suggested that there are not 'plenty more pebbles on the beach' or 'plenty more fish in the sea'? I learnt that letters tell you very little, at one time I believed they did, but then I learnt. You just don't know, until you have been together, if there is to be anything there or not. And if you try to believe there is a genuine attraction, or indeed love, from letters or photos, then you're only fooling yourself. Your Reply: Your name:   New Registration Password:   Forgot password?   refresh Code:   Russian brides > Main Forum > HOW TO AVOID BEING SCAMMED!
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