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	Create New Topic   My Posts   My forum buddies   Invite friends   Private messages Russian brides > Main Forum > International Women's Day. The big one! Author Post Atos Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/26/2007 5:24:12 PM   My girl's birthday is on March 7th. I have sent her a nice bouquet of flowers through russianservice.com, as well as a bottle of champagne and a cake. On the 8th, I am sending her and her mother and grandmother a basket of spring flowers. This is the 5th time that I've used russianservice.com and although it is a little more expensive, they have been very reliable. harantis Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/26/2007 5:47:12 PM   You can't be serious ! In which gynarchy does this holiday reign supreme ? jetmba. Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/26/2007 6:13:23 PM   Harantis: Its a good thing that you are well traveled and enjoy going to so many places, because I suspect that you will be looking for a LONG LONG time. kingarthur Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/26/2007 6:36:50 PM   I admit that I am no authority in this field, but I am as doubtful as Harantis is. Though International Women's day, as far as I know, is considered a rather important holiday in the countries of former Soviet bloc, usually holidays such as Valentine's Day and International Women's day are mainly a big business for florists, confectioners and the like. jetmba. Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/26/2007 7:00:56 PM   I urge both of you to check it out on the web. If we are looking for women from a vastly different culture - then it is pretty important that we demonstrate a respect for their culture. Its not just a Romantic Holiday like Valentines Day is - its a holiday to show respect for all women. My exfiance generally made contact with all of the women that she was close to on that day, and all friends, male and female tended to call and "congratulate" her on that day. If contact was not made it was noticed and taken as a slight. Ignore their customs at your own peril. DavidUSA Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/26/2007 7:03:33 PM   Thanks for the advice jetmba. I also saw your comments in a book I read about the FSU. International Woman's Day (IWD) is an important day in the FSU. However............... As a veteran of this hobby (four trips overseas)...but not an FSU woman addict, I've learned that observing IWD by spending $100 or more on gifts does NOT guarantee anything with a woman...or several women if you're a big spender. Yes, it may brighten her day, but when March 9th arrives, you may find yourself back in the "what have you done for me lately?" situation. I did my homework in the past. I bought IWD gifts a few times (in addition to the other holidays) and it resulted in nothing. So, if I DIDN'T buy gifts for IWD, I'd still be where I am right now. I've even sent gifts to women who turned out to be scammers. Yup, 'been scammed before. To quote a friend of mine, "Why pay for something when you can get it for free?" I'm playing dumb when March 8th rolls around. I want a woman to accept me for who I am, and not because I buy gifts everytime there is a holiday. That WILL come when I'm in a serious committed relationship. I'm not letting the foreign bride game consume me emotionally or financially. I'll bring gifts for a woman and her family IF she WANTS to meet me in person. I'll gladly do anything to make a good impression on a visit to the FSU. It will be like Christmas when I get there. I'm like Santa Claus when I arrive at the airport. But I've retired from sending gifts to people I have not met in person. This includes Valentine's Day, New Year's Day, etc. Those websites that offer free e-cards are getting my business. Now that I think about this, it might be better to begin correspondence with new people AFTER March 8th. There's a quiet stretch of several months with no holidays. You won't have to pull the credit card out of your wallet because ANOTHER holiday arrived. The FSU women game is a form of online gambling. Yes you can win, but you're going to have to spend a lot of money, take some overseas trips and experience heartbreak before you hit the big jackpot. Everybody on here has their own take on how to play this game. This is how I'm doing it. I still have my profile on American dating sites. There may be someone waiting for me close to home. kingarthur Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/26/2007 7:11:29 PM   jetmba, ok, I take your advice. I have her phone number, so I can call her no problem and congratulate her. She's not my fiancee (yet). So, I suppose this will be appropriate and appreciated. Am I wrong? I wouldn't slip on a banana skin :-) jetmba. Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/26/2007 7:22:50 PM   DavidUSA: I'm not suggesting that you spend money on gifts for women that you have never met UNLESS perhaps you are already serious enough to be planning a visit to that particular lady. My comments ate primariily directed to those of us who have a significant lady that we have visited and are considering pursuing a fiance visa with or something of that matter. You and I use entirely different techniques - I don't generally write to women before I get there - much less send them presents. I tend to meet my women in person at Romance Socials, or one on one as I did in Latvia. Gotta admit though - the comments you write about sending presents not guaranteeing anything with a woman are a little disturbing. If you want a guaranteed, sure thing, that you are going to get something for your money - you can find that on a street corner in most any large city. You don't have to go to the FSU. And while their should be no obligation to buy a lady a gift even when you do find one - the whole idea is that you should WANT to. And if you are interested in really wooing a lady - showing you respect her culture is a good place to start. Its really not a game, what we are doing here. It may seem that way at times but it really isn't. We have a big advantage looking for a lady in the FSU because most western guys generally HAVE fatter wallets than the local guys over there might. That alone opens a few doors for us - but those doors won't stay open if we don't appeal to the women. And showing that we are only there to get things on the cheap - isn't a good way to succeed. jetmba. Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/26/2007 7:24:14 PM   kingarthur - calling her is a hell of a lot better than just playing dumb as davidUSA wants to do. That's for sure. DavidUSA Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/26/2007 7:26:23 PM   jetmba- Umm...please point out where I said "playing dumb" does NOT include making a phone call. I'm waiting. jetmba. Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/26/2007 7:34:05 PM   What you said was "I'm playing dumb when March 8th rolls around. ". Tell we where that says you WILL make a phone call? I'm waiting. You're playing "DUMB" you said. So how are you going to make a phone call without speaking? As long as we are doing quotes lets pull on that you wrote further down. "Now that I think about this, it might be better to begin correspondence with new people AFTER March 8th." You ARE the epitome of CHEAP aren't you? DavidUSA Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/26/2007 7:38:46 PM   jetmba, welcome back! Do you actually think that I'm just zipping out emails in hopes of finding a bride? It should be assumed that all guys are calling these women, as I do, in addition to writing to them. Let's make a deal jetmba. I'll drop $100 on flowers for IWD if you promise to pay my credit card bill. If I end up marrying the woman, I'll fly you to the USA to be my best man. And reimburse you for the $100. Deal? jetmba. Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/26/2007 7:55:58 PM   DavidUSA - I've often said that there are many diffrent reasons the men here are looking to the FSU to find women. Some of us ar just unsatisfied with the quality of women available for us in a later life search in the USA. But some of us have personality problems that will make it difficult to find a bride ANYWHERE incuding the FSU. You seem to fall in the latter category. Did you read what I wrote above? I SAID "I'm not suggesting that you spend money on gifts for women that you have never met UNLESS perhaps you are already serious enough to be planning a visit to that particular lady." The deal you offer me doesn't even make any sense. I would pay for the flowers if you married her? But then you would pay me back after flying me to the US (where I already live) to be your best man? How does that make any sense in even a sarcastic way? What clever point are you trying to make? A witty comment only makes sense if it actually has some WIT to it. harantis Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/26/2007 8:00:05 PM   I'm waiting for them to have a P.P.P. Day ! Will it ever happen in my lifetime ?? harantis Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/26/2007 8:06:18 PM   Well ? Well ? I'm still waiting ? In exactly which gynarchy does this "holiday" reign supreme ? DavidUSA Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/26/2007 8:15:23 PM   Yo, jetmba! What up dog? Thanks for placing me in your "latter" category. That's where I want to be! I heard the accomodations there are pretty nice. Getting on the plane and flying across the pond is the easy part. Finding someone who is serious on the other end is the tough part. Why I'm getting letters from 18-22 year olds who will be studying for the next 5-10 years is beyond me. I ignore them. I've found that many women from the FSU are "flavors of the month" during correspondence. They enter your life, hang out for a while, and then disappear. Why? Who knows. Women always enter your fiance inbox saying, "I'm serious about a lifetime relationship." I know for a fact that everyone on here has corresponded with several women, felt very confident that they "finally found the one", only to be shot down in flames when the goddess on the other end of the computer decided to stop writing. Nothing is a done deal until it's a done deal. I've learned that FSU women and myself are not on the same page when it comes to the word, "serious." I've spent a lot of money in this game and have come away empty. At a certain point, you have to draw the line and say enough is enough. Meet me in person and you will be rewarded with gifts and more. Let me explain my deal again. If I marry the woman, you get your money back and stand by my side at the altar. If the woman ditches me, you're out $100. Where you get off calling my posts sarcastic is beyond me. I'm not trying to include WIT in my comments. I'm trying to entertain you and the other guys on here. Know what I mean? jetmba. Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/26/2007 8:45:59 PM   But DavidUSA - did you get the part about (third time I'm writing it now...) ""I'm not suggesting that you spend money on gifts for women that you have never met UNLESS perhaps you are already serious enough to be planning a visit to that particular lady."" Given your particular personality and the fact that you are looking for a particular return on your investment - I'm betting you can give a lot of women a lot of gifts and they will still ditch you. I don't throw money into holes, so no I won't take you up on it. Letter writing in general produces SCAMS. I am amazed that you people have the patience with it that you do. That is why the women that I have met have ALWAYS been in person. I have made SIX trips to the FSU, to three countries. Now, admittedly, I have not always been going to look for a new lady. Four of those trips were to Moldova to see the same lady. But I have NEVER been shot down by a lady I wrote to and was convinced that "she is the one" simply because I have never WRITTEN seriously to any ladies. The motst I have used fiamce.com and other servcies for was to get some names and phone numbers (a single letter can often get you that) of the ladies in the country I am visiting. That's all. Women over there KNOW that we make more money. They LOVE the idea of getting us to send some. They may only make $90 to $150 a month - so if they get a mere $50 from us it represents 1/2 to 1/3 of what they might MAKE in a month. OF COURSE they are on the take. Its simple economics. THATS WHY you hear from 18 to 20 year old girls/ They know that we are flattered to hear from such a young beautiful thing (and they may or may not really be 18 to 20 year old girls) and we are likely to send a little something if they pump up our egos a little. I GO THERE when I want to meet women. I DON'T WRITE LETTERS! DavidUSA Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/26/2007 9:11:47 PM   jetmba, This is where I disagree with you. You obviously have more working capital than I do because writing letters followed by a trip overseas is what I can afford. And what I think is best. A week overseas is about all I can do. Are you doing the tour thing? Or just showing up? I know all about the scams involved in trading letters. Check. I can't and don't have the money to go over there for two or more weeks and tour many cities and meet hundreds of women while competing with other guys. At that rate, you'll still have to go over again and again just to narrow down your field of candidates, and then start working on the woman you want. No thanks. But that's another topic. Perhaps, my method of writing and flying won't work out for me. That's why I'm on American sites as well. The FSU is just another option. I know very well that many guys on here are caught up in finding a woman in FSU that they wouldn't have a chance of getting in the USA. Yep, the 20something 5-9 girl with long straight blond hair (or brunette), beautiful eyes, sexy legs who could end up on the cover of Cosmo. I don't need that. God I'm such a liar! Just someone who is attractive in my eyes and beautiful on the inside. You tell me that you don't throw money into holes. Well, we finally agree on something! That's why my credit card statement has no balance on it in March. I'm not the epitome of cheap as you mentioned earlier. If you want to find the epitome, let me introduce you to 71 year old George, the produce clerk at the supermarket where I shop. That son-of-a-bitch will drive 30 miles to save 10 cents on a head of lettuce at another store. He's cheap! By the way, I heard you loud and clear on "I don't write letters." The caps and explanation point weren't necessary. How do I do it? beemer18 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/26/2007 9:26:53 PM   Jet, How are you doing? We do have different ways of developing relationships with women in FSU, I letter write to find out who to meet and you just to meet, just our individual choices, more power to us. I understand what you are saying. I had a discussion before with DavisUSA about FSU women and know where he is coming from. I think he needs to chill on the FSU circuit. If it ain't working for you move on to something else. DavidUSA, How have you been? You sound the same as you were a month ago. I understand your predicament...you sound frustrated with the whole situation. Try something else because this FSU girl thing is only for the adventureous, who don't take it personnally all negativity involved in the process. Relationships are very diffficult, even in your own backyard and nobody said it was simple, sometimes it takes months if not years to find the right person. You have to be in it for the long haul, if not get off and go drinking with the boys. Wish you good luck!! jetmba. Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/26/2007 9:35:16 PM   DavidUSA: The most expenisve part of the trip is the flight over - if you are SMART and can figure out where to stay. While in Moldova I spent less than $60 per night on hotel accomodations. But whether I went for one week or three - I still pay for one airline flight over there. No more. Actually the time I went just to MEET women in Latvia without a Social was not very productive. I dated four women in two weeks (one of those women for the majority of the second week) but nearly nobody ofr the first week as i scrambled to meet someone. Now as bad as that was - I can only imagine it would have been worse if I had worked and worked getting to know someone through letters and then things hadn't worked out for me. The pressure on me. The pressure on her - would have been terrible. And the dissappointment would have been worse. I have attended just one set of Romance Socials. Total cost for two yeeks was around $3,500 but the resluts were INCREDIBLE. Had the most wonderful time of my life as beautiful ladies competed for ME! That was in Ukraine. Your Reply: Your name:   New Registration Password:   Forgot password?   refresh Code:   Russian brides > Main Forum > International Women's Day. The big one!
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