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	Create New Topic   My Posts   My forum buddies   Invite friends   Private messages Russian brides > Main Forum > where to find a nice honest man? Author Post GLTALLTOAD Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 3/20/2005 2:51:29 AM   sorry....my home bar does not serve beer, only red wine and martinis (shaken, not stirred) you're welcome anytime... wtrav02 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 3/20/2005 3:30:39 AM   I lived in MI, NYC, Boston and Chicago. None of these places compares to the beauty and climate of CA. But, are you going to marry the place? Now, we live in Greece for one month already. I've traveled to 45 countries including the South Pacific, all of the Caribbean, Maldives, etc. and I can tell you this place is up there on the top. Climate is superb, it's already 25C and it's hardly rained 2 days for the last month. There are 3,000 islands to choose from for your weekend getaway and thousands of miles of coast along the mainland, not to mention ski resorts within 2 hour drive from Athens and other natural attractions away from the ocean and within a few hour drive by car. All this is good, but if you're not with the right person in a foreign country, your life can be the perfect version of hell. Focus on the person, not the place. It is next to impossible to tell with certainty who is serious and who's not, but you can make sure that YOU know what YOU want and how to find it. Best of luck. ItsaDragon Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 3/20/2005 7:50:15 AM   ruslady, I am curious of your experiences. What exactly have you been running into? You can always run any issue you have with a particular man past us for our opinion, we will be glad to help. Keep trying, there are good men out there. scottlf Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 3/20/2005 8:39:14 AM   Out of curiosity, are you Northen Californians still wanted to give Southern California "the boot"? I've known a few Northern Californians that "can't wait for the big one and be free of Southern California". Jdbenjamin66 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 3/20/2005 9:14:25 AM   Well I cant say much here for this state Michigan I have only been here for a year . I do miss home (Gods country) West Virgiinia but I grew up in Indiana . I have been to all the states but Alaska and Hawaii . But sorry Toad I am a country boy and I like Wyoming and Montana . scottlf Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 3/20/2005 9:17:50 AM   If it's seasonal occupation, I don't disagree. However, I don't want to live in Montanna or Wyoming in the winter. GLTALLTOAD Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 3/20/2005 1:41:37 PM   To whoever asked about IZI in the last page the answer is No, I have not heard anything, yet. He should be coming home around this time, though... Wtrav, I have not been in Greece...yet. But I want to go pretty bad, maybe this summer if I can squeeze a week or two and Lena can meet me there while we wait for the visa. As beautiful as the greek islands sound to visit or even live there, the greek men have a notorious reputation for treating their women like crappola anywhere, not just in Greece. Hence my suggestion to Ruslady to look for other men. Like you said, and I agree 1000%, living with the right person is more important. But once you have that established, there is no place like southern or central coastal California to live. The big cities (LA, SF, SAC) are awful, except San Diego, but life in suburbia anywhere from Monterrey on down to San Diego is pure paradise. I have tentative plans to move to Cambria when my kids get out of college or within the next 5 years. Most Northern Californians don't like us much and for good reason...we keep telling them they have to stop living off the land and get a real job. A steady diet of wild mushrooms and marijuana is no way to live. There will be a California split, for sure, for sure..;)) But it will be political, not geographical. We'll dump the lazy north and do what the mexicans did with their own Baja California Norte and Sur. So Calif has wanted to split from the north for over 50 years now, but Sacramento is a perfectly oiled whinning machine of corrupt politicians who know how to play the "look what those southern rebels are doing to the Golden State" games in D.C. Ruslady, Be VERY aware of a man who tries to sell you the idea of living in a nice place with nice weather and even an ocean view lifestyle, 3 attached car garages, but tells you little or nothing about how he treats his children or what is his current relationship with his family. does he love his mother? does he visit the dentist at least twice a year? does he collect human body parts in the freezer? Do not hesitate to ask him a million questions about his past relationships to women or how they ended or if he was ever convicted of a violent crime or financial fraud, including sex related crimes. I only presented you the idea of falling in love with California because I'm no longer available.. good luck toad Bagira Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 3/20/2005 2:55:52 PM   Happy Toad, - Does he collect human body parts in the freezer? I always think about it than I read your comments. LOL You are an outstanding man who can betray any woman but hope you need not it anymore. scottlf Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 3/20/2005 3:07:43 PM   Toad, I think with some people, you would have to be specific and ask if they consider there ex's to be "human". :-) N()R Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 3/20/2005 5:56:28 PM   Toad, It was me asking... Not that it does matter.. I have been to Greece on several occations, and several islands... If I can recommend something I would recommend the sunwing resort hotel in the city Rhodos at the Island Rhodos... Rhodos, the island of roses, is the third largest Island in Greece, and you can find whatever your heart desire there. It is known as the sunniest place in Europe.. Some of the things you have to experience is the old town... A tour of the medieval town is quite a lengthy business, given the number of monuments there are to see. The walls with their bastions, battlements, towers, gates cause one to gasp in wonder. The imposing buildings, with their coats-of-arms, majestic gateways, decoration in relief, Gothic windows, paved courtyards and old lamps take one centuries back in time, as do the narrow streets and old churches. At Rhodos you will also find Lindos, undoubtly one of the nicest spots in Greece. It is well worth braving the extra degrees to visit this picturesque village which is stepped in history. St. Pauls bay is a beautiful sandy beach which gently shelves into the sea laze on the beach and glance up the village on the hillside with its white washed houses and on the top it is crowning glory the Acropolis which rules over the village. This is a must see if visiting Rhodos.. The Butterly Valley!! (http://home.cbkn.dk/Rhodos/Butterfly.asp)This is the only place in the world this phenomen occures... Millions of butterflies gather in the same valley... When I walked around the place it looked like the leaves on the trees had thousands of colors, but it was all butterflies.. Amazing, wonderful and very romantic place!! The valley is the habitat of millions of beautiful butterflies :)) This Island is just wonderful!!! Bagira, You are getting sweeter for every day ;) If I was really drunk I am sure you would be very sweet indeed.. LOL ;))))) GLTALLTOAD Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 3/20/2005 8:53:07 PM   Bag, I know you're trying...but you have to let the nice comments come out without any shred of poison attached to it. You do not know me, you do not know what I can or cannot do. When are you going to tell us your story and the reasons why you are or were so bitter about men in general or one man in particular? toad IceChaos Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 3/20/2005 9:11:27 PM   N()R I have to say that I am not an immigrant. I get tired of politically correct statements. Most Americans that I know of are not immigrants either. We were born here in the states. It has only been since 1965 that the US has had a huge influx of illegals and legal immigrants coming to this country. I am not a fan of multiculturalism Ice Bagira Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 3/20/2005 9:27:50 PM   Toad, You have not split the poison on me. What has happened? Are you really so happy? You know that the only person about whom we think that he loves us, can make a real pain to us. Be very careful with people whom you love. I am here because I do not want to go to a real world. And I am on the dating sites because I like to get letters like this: ‘Hi back to you. We have much in common, I know. In this picture I see a beautiful woman ...’ You talked about Internet Romeo, about scammer girls. You forgot about a very common phenomena – about a type of woman who write without hope to find someone. N()R Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 3/20/2005 9:58:54 PM   Bagira :) This time I will be perfectly serious, no joking, no fun. I know about this phenomena, and I think as you said it is pretty common actually.. I wrote to a woman like this not so long ago, very sweet woman, but without any hope.. To tell you the truth, I could easily have fallen in love with her, but she had no hopes and it reflected on our conversations. She didn't even try to feel or to hope, she was too afraid to get hurt. This was an obstackle for us to get through if we should coninue to explore our relationship. I am like most Norwegians very (!!!) patient, and I gave her all the time and attention there was. I spoke to her on a daily basis, and I did my best to convince her that I would be her friend and her support (not talking economics...). She liked me a lot, -like most women do ;) lol (I promised not to joke.. Sh!t..). It had nothing to do with her liking me or not, she just refused to open up. She told me she wanted to, but it was difficult for her. After a while I just had to give it up and to move on even if I don't wanted to leave her, she seemed so sad, not because I moved on, but as a person. She had been hurt badly, her ex left her 6 months pregnant. I think dear Bagira, that in most cases when people lack hope, there is something behind.. Something in the closet that needs to get out, something you need to get out of your system, because this reflects the whole personality, not only when it comes to love. I think most people lacking hopes and dreams have a hard time on a daily basis. I think that if the man you meet are as nice as he can be, you will still not let go and go for it. I am no psychiatric, but I am sure you don't feel good at a daily basis without hopes and dreams. Without hope it will not happen dear.. -And I think you know it... GLTALLTOAD Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 3/20/2005 10:36:51 PM   Bagira, I have been a very happy man since long before I met my Lena. Actually, I am pretty sure that is one of the main reasons why Lena is so happy with me. She says so and I have no reason to believe otherwise. Seriously, Bagira....hang on to your dearest dream, like Norgie says. good luck toad aussieman41 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 3/21/2005 8:27:01 AM   GLTALLTOAD, although you have criticised me in the past because I bagged all FSU women, Im glad you found an honest one in Lena..I think in general I have a mistrust of all women and I can see Bagira's viewpoint. When you have been married 12 years, go through an emotional and financial meatgrider in a divorce and court battles over your kids that take the better part of 2 years to resolve, you tend to get really hurt and not want to trust women anymore.( the same could be said of Bagira...perhaps he had a bad relationshiop with a man and is really hurt and mistrusts men as my vice versa in situ..its understandable ) The hurt of a divorce can take at least 5 years to recover from it until you are okay, so the psychologists and relationship experts say and then you learn to live with it and the pain gets less as time passes but you don't get over it..you are emotionally scarred for life...Im almost 4 years out now. Im sure there are some lovely FSU women out there with dreams of finding a good man..its a matter of finding the right one..internet relationships are the most difficult to develop because all you are is a pen friend to her until the personal meeting and only then is it pssible for a romantic spark to develop..sometimes it happens..more often it does not happen..its all luck in the game of life. I will hang onto my dream but I will put relationships aside until my kids move off the scene in a few years and I no longer have any more dealings with my ex-wife...she is very troublesome and disruptive on relationships I have had..Im sure she has followed and stalked my former girl friends. Its no good to bring a foreign girl into this kind of enviroment..its not fair on the girl..my ex-wife is some kind of psycho jealous fruitcake! I am an honest man dogged by family problems and a nut of an ex-wife who wont leave me alone to get on with my life. Sure we have Russian scammers but a lot of it is not actaully perpetrated by women themselves..its run by hairy Boris's and marriage agencies posting fake profiles made up of stolen pictures. There are thousands of scammers but just how many of them are real women who have scammed..when you look at it, I think only about 20% of the scam is done by the women..the rest is by hairy boris's and marriage agencies or organised crime rings. Lets be careful out there..do the research and investigation on whom we are in contact with and think with your mind and not something located in the lower part of your body! Bagira, I think you are a hurt women as much as I am a hurt man..it takes a long time to learn to trust again, the opposite sex..its understandable and normal to feel like that. GLTALLTOAD Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 3/21/2005 11:00:56 AM   Aussie, Thank you for your kind comments. Lena is one very special human being. I know what 'due diligence' is, and I have done it correctly, I think. I did not spend 18 months sucking on my forefinger between our first letter and the moment we embraced at the Ekaterinburg airport early this month. A lot of effort, time and energy has gone into researching and proving I am dealing with an honest woman. I always thought I was swimming against the current by doing things the way I planned. Most other men attended socials left and right or planned visits to FSU women within a few short weeks after getting to know them via e-mail. Many others chose to let agencies find women for them. I learnt early on that agencies carry a high chance of being scam boiler rooms or at best, are outrageously expensive. So I did not deal with any of them seriously or for a long time. The next cut I had to make was the language barrier. It was frustrating, impersonal and ineffective trying to connect with women who depended on translators and could not have a direct phone conversation with me. So no women who could not speak any of my four languages fluently over the phone. Then the age thingie. 20 year olds are nice 'arm candy' and satisfying play toys for a while. I had my share of them domestically, some of them foreign. But the generational, educational and life experience gap is too wide to project a successful long term relationship with someone that young and lacking life experience. For me at least. It was only by default of the website system I was using that I selected my interest in the 25-35 age group of FSU women, when in reality I did not intend to talk to anyone under 30. So now you have an ugly toad who does not deal with agencies, does not talk to women who cannot have a direct phone conversation and also have to be within a specific age group. Then I started getting really picky...:))) Women who had more than one child...no way. Those who did not send recent photos...ditched. The ones who refused to name their family members...out. Those who smoke....uuuggghhh. Those who asked or expected gifts...see ya! The ones who would only meet me at 'exotic romantic paradise world spots' (far away from their hometown)...you're history. And of course the women I chose had to be 8s, 9s or 10s in the 'gorgeous scale'. (small detail, uh..:) And out of all this pickiness and arrogant expectations developed since 8-03, I still got correspondence from 400+ women who actually wrote addressing my ads, profiles and introductory letters. Of course many of them wrote to say "Thanks, but no thanks" or even "Get lost, you ugly toad." Lena is the youngest among the 6 terrific, kind, beautiful and educated women that kept my attention untill late last year when I realized that by far, Lena was the best suited for me and that I was punishing her unfairly because of her younger age. She does not need moi to enter the US whenever she damn pleases. She even has an active and valid SS# already from when she was here 5 & 6 years ago as an exchange student. I am one pragmatic and cynic surivor of divorce that left me as a single parent of kids ages 3 & 4 and so flat broke in the early 90s that I could not even 'pay attention' at the time. But I never felt the resentment towards women in general you describe. The individual, yes...I wanted the bus line administrators to send entire brigades of buses to roll over her body until there was nothing left to distinguish her from the pavement. I guess I was rational enough to hold on to my individualistic beliefs that everyone is a different person and deserves to be treated accordingly without repercussion from what anyone else has done to me. toad Thunderdome Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 3/21/2005 2:12:47 PM   Toad, read the above and am flabberghasted. Gosh, you indeed did NOT select by her wealth???? Well then, it MUST be love I suppose ;-)) GLTALLTOAD Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 3/21/2005 4:18:32 PM   TD, This woman is wealthy, just a different kind of wealth that is commonly accepted or sought after in the west. And yes, I do love her. toad GLTALLTOAD Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 3/21/2005 4:18:36 PM   TD, This woman is wealthy, just a different kind of wealth that is commonly accepted or sought after in the west. And yes, I do love her. toad Your Reply: Your name:   New Registration Password:   Forgot password?   refresh Code:   Russian brides > Main Forum > where to find a nice honest man?
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