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	Create New Topic   My Posts   My forum buddies   Invite friends   Private messages Russian brides > Main Forum > Male and Female energies Author Post izifaddag Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 4/2/2005 10:16:22 AM   Toad The more I read that opening post the more I understand it and it explains quite a bit of what happened with Marina and I. IceChaos Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 4/2/2005 10:19:38 AM   I don’t think that I can add anything new to this discussion because it would just sound like clichés. I will say this that I think that some people men and women are not meant for anyone. I think that some people are truly born to be alone and die alone. Why this is I don’t know. Ice GLTALLTOAD Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 4/2/2005 10:44:30 AM   TD, What I posted above only makes sense or is understood (not necessarily agreed) by those who seek a relationship, marriage and or family lifestyle living. It is an antithesis to those who just want to get laid. I simply do not understand the basic premises of going to far corners of the world just to get laid, having a series of one night stands or the empowerment brought on by watching a large group of adorable younger, sexy women look into my eyes with pleading dog-pound puppy eyes that say "choose me, choose me" If a man cannot create that convenient, gratifying, non-committal and sexual situation for himself at home on his own accord and resources, what sort of real validation can anyone claim when it is artificially delivered by tour operators? "Here you go, Mr. Western man, we lined up the most beautiful girls that money can hire for a few days of indulgence. Please forgive the poorly disguised comtempt with which we treat you under the pretense this is all about love and finding a good spouse" TD, do not apologize to me. Like I said before, I didn't invent these ideas. They're mine becasue I adopted them. That's all. toad Sandman Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 4/2/2005 10:48:43 AM   Still think TOAD should write a book about it he'd rival Dr.Phil. LoL call it "A Toads perspective". Actually I buy into Toads observations only because he defined eloquently so well the problems many mariages have. Where also a problem lies though is that if the (male energy) role model continually makes wrong decisions concerning the "family" in regards to finacial and housing or even public events. The (female energy) after a time will want to take over if only out of necessity I've watched this scenario with my brother.He "let" her take control of things finacially pay bills,run errands so forth it didn't take her long to get into fiscal trouble when he tried to take back control it was as if he said your a failure I need to take this over.She didn't like it and years later they divorced.Her (male energy) couldn't cope with the fact that she was ousted from her power and control as she defined it.She wanted to blame him but after he took over he was able to get back on track. Her ego of course was hurt and I don't think she ever quite got over that.My brother is a very passive guy to a point but after that he never let any woman take over his finacial matters.I think this also goes with what IZI is saying about the veto role. If she would of been more communicative he could of shown her where her calculations were in error and Vetoed some of her plans and kept them on a healty finacial track.I'm not saying they wouldn't of divorced (who knows) but I think it could of saved them alot of pain if they had defined between them what Toad and Izzy are saying.I really find this an awesome observation by you two :) deep thinkers indeed.I wish I wasn't always in the shallow end :P ::Note to self read more. Note 2 find Toad and Izzy's book. Thunderdome Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 4/2/2005 12:36:15 PM   Toad, "What I posted above only makes sense.." Only? That's what YOU think because you believe in it. I don't, and trust me we've got very similar aims. I wholeheartedly agree with the rest of your post though. I also will never attend a social, and playing sextourist is not for me either. And relax, I didn't apologize. I was only making fun of Spirittraveller's post, suspecting him of flying skyhigh when he wrote it. I bet you he smokes, but am not going to wager what kind of fuel he uses ;-) GLTALLTOAD Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 4/2/2005 2:45:15 PM   TD, "It only makes sense OR is understood (not necessarily agreed)... You do understand it, don't have to agree with it. What's the problem, mate? Aren't you used to by now to my outrageous opinions, concepts and ideas?...:)) GLTALLTOAD Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 4/2/2005 2:47:53 PM   Sand, Don't give me credit...g odirectly to the sources if you want to read more. Carl Jung if you can stomach and Pat Allen's "Getting to I do". toad Thunderdome Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 4/2/2005 5:31:22 PM   Oh yes I am, but I've already accused you of having become near-normal (at times only, relax, and don't get vain now pls), and in any case your later posts are a far cry from your newbie-ramblings here. It also is precisely why I accused you of using stimulants, in an attempt to shock you awake and preventing you from you falling back. Gosh man, it's ludicrous hogwash I neither understand or agree with, and when certain travellers subsequently post then the end is lost in a dangerous haze of smoke, or mushrooms, or pills or whatever, but I won't have any part in it. Getting sort-of back on this track, some guys marry wives who clearly lead, are in control, a reversal of the 'normal' roles, these being accepted as such only because they tend to be in the majority. Very seldom only one finds marriages in which the roles are really equal, and not uncommon then is that one or both partners are a bit artistically inclined. The above phenomena are unrelated to IQ's I think, or class or wealth, and I know quite a number of all forms who have proven to last quite happily. Although I think that such is caused by opposites attracting each other, however with almost always a very specific common thought or opinion shared, I wonder how you would explain such from your viewpoint - the succesful marriages mind, not the failures. GLTALLTOAD Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 4/2/2005 6:41:10 PM   TD, I don't know how you qualify succesful marriages these days. For me, a succesful one belongs to those spouses who have each other when one or the other takes the last breath of their lives. (yeah I know..a bit morbid, but I like it..:) Invariable those people are old and belong to a generation raised without the complexities the social revolution of the 1970s and its further evolutions and mutations created throughout the western world. The rest belongs to people our age or younger. Those currently married in my book have nothing more than 'ongoing' marriages, with all the challenges, disabilities and obstacles thrown at them on a daily, sometimes hourly basis. Who is to say they will be succesful? Stats do not lie, chances are high they will not be, unfortunately. toad N()R Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 4/2/2005 6:48:48 PM   A successful marriage is when a man can make money faster than the wife can spend them... Then the wife is happy, and she give the man sex as a reward... If not.. well.. no sex for you mate... No sex?? huh... well.. this man is out of here... or... No money?? huh?? I kick him to the curb... I am better off sitting at the local coffe-shop with my girls than being with that jerk... And then again.. I have something to talk about.. spirittraveller Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 4/2/2005 7:07:56 PM   I swore for 20 years that you would have to pry the doobage from my cold,rigor mortis stiff fingers. I have matured somewhat from this refrain. Although I would advocate its use for some,I now believe that an unhappy or incomplete person will medicate themselves by whatever means they can. Too bad I could not convince more than one woman that she needed a little reefer to get her straight. As our minds are chemically operated batteries,no man can say whether or not one person needs Polynesian poi or Hindu Kush to get themselves right. I don`t even want to go into the subject of alcohol,because I have seen the devastation,yet even my little brother-the border patrolling cop,will drink to oblivion,along with his sociologically and politically correct cronies. I am sad that the same Northern Cheyenne that protected their ancestral homeland in guerilla fashion against Mr Custer now cannot buy Lysol,cough formulas with alcohol,and perfumes,because these self-medicating serums have almost single-handedly crushed the dignity of a great,but small nation. We all have a drug of choice,whether it be sex,rock and roll or football. We also have different levels of emotional maturation. The more easily disheartened souls among us will always need something or somebody to lean on. Some lean on their religions,some conquest women to remind themselves of their male vitality. Some bury themselves in their work. I think of life as a series of ( too slow ) revelations. And if you need to primal scream around the campfire to find out that you really hated your dad--so be it,enjoy,cry,get pissed,get bent! We only have 70 some years from our alpha to the omega to experience whatever it is we need from this puny earth. If you need herbal lithium,I congratulate you for your choice to make the changes needed in your life. My throat-slitting green beret dad,who is one of the most violent men I have ever witnessed,turned into a giggling baby on pot. It beat being lobotomized to neutralize his homocidal tendencies. Without change,everything stays the same. I never see my excesses or regresses as mistakes. Sometimes poor judgement,definitely sometimes imprudent or premature decisionmaking. I have been with a Samoan woman, didn`t work-she was too large. I was with a German lady--too bad I did not meet her before she became Americanized. I met,and was crazy over a Brit woman--she was just an American cousin. I loved a Chinese woman in El Segundo--she succumbed to parental pressure to marry another Chinese man. One thing I know that every one of us have in common-all who grace this forum,is that we are experimenting with,and embracing the idea of a woman who we perceive as different from what we have always known. It is curious and wonderful to me that there are men here from many places in the world. It gives me reassurance that mine is not a blind and naive cause. I enjoy all the postings here,and would not change any of them,because I value all your diversities of opinion. I want to try to answer you with my opinion of your last sentence,TD. It comes from the very few long marriages I have witnessed. Be friends. Be friendly--or, so to say- respect,and be truthful even if you dislike somebody sometimes,and insist on dating activity with the beloved one. It is up to you to determine what is unacceptable,and what not--as Izi described about a certain woman`s behavior and habits. If you do not like her panties stuffed under the mattress,don`t stuff your socks there too then gripe about it. If--also like Izi`s experience,you do not like a stinking sink full of dishes,but you were acceptful in the courtship process,you have little ground to stand on. If I smoke kinnickinick,and she always knew this,but harbors a deep resentment which is unaired by her--tough shit! I will tell her honestly,and with respect that I am going fishing with my friends,and yes-we will have a couple shots of Ouzo ( with opium if I damn well want to ) I will be back one hour after sundown. I have given her the truth,and this means for me that one hour after sundown I will be home. Also--as I have stated before,men have reversed roles also,but maybe not at the same pace as women. A woman wants a sensitive man who also cries at the end of "West Side Story". Yet she also wants the grizzled but manly Outsiders Motorcycle Club member,complete with patches and his `64 Norton. The stereotypical man as exemplified in American TV-- he is a weak, blithering idiot,a pussy who cannot decide anything for fear of women and their displeasure. As said in "D.C. Cab"--It`s hard to be a man,baby. Remember--snips,snails,and puppy dog tails. Be the person you want to see!! Poka all of you! N()R Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 4/2/2005 7:29:07 PM   "There are times when you should move on, and situations in which the only way up is out." jmoluv Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 4/2/2005 10:11:00 PM   Spirit, You are really deep . I think i am moving to Montana. Thunderdome Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 4/3/2005 4:12:17 AM   Toad, I'd say good marriages are those households where you walk in, and there never is any real tension. Their social life is good, the kids are healthily naughty or pursuing their hobbies (or both :), and meals are taken without any forced formalities. Basically there is peace in those houses, and also affection is shown, not in ways to impress visitors but just present, not to impress anyone. This rubs off on kids and is generally contageous, somehow there's harmony in these families. He never even hints, in a derogative way, at his secretary or a waitress and means it, and neither is he one of those boys who's got a black book. She will definitely drool over Brad on tv but then often ends with snuggling up to him, or show in another way where her real priorities ly. Most importantly though, this is something you know is always there, it never changes, is not forced, it is just they way it is for them. Come on now Toad, you know what type of relatioships I'm talking about. They're lightyears away from those whereby he has to wriggle to get something done, she causes him to complain to you about small things, sometimes some sneery remarks are made which are aimed to hurt, and the kids pick this up, are cheeky past naughty and may even have some problems at school. Oh, these household also carry on, they last, but I agree with you that their risk of termination is loads higher than the above-mentioned one's. Then there's also those whereby the clock is just ticking, and you know these too - for you don't really want to go there, excuse yourself for a coffe-invite, and a barbie you prefer to organize at your place, not theirs. And even some of these marriages also prove hardy, but the risk of an ulcer I'd regard as skyhigh. No, not until death us part, then only historians could class the good, the bad and the ugly - and you yourself wouldn't know either. GLTALLTOAD Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 4/3/2005 10:35:47 AM   TD, Lena and I agreed we want to have the kind of marraige and family lifestyle and household where friends and family would want to keep coming back...I guess that would put us on the first category. Phhheeewww...:) toad Thunderdome Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 4/3/2005 2:08:46 PM   Toad, a question of a private nature, and 'piss off' is also an answer. You're my age, have kids already, and Lena's mid-twenty and has no kids yet. You plan to have one/some? GLTALLTOAD Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 4/4/2005 1:17:55 AM   TD, PISS OFF anyway, lol..(just kidding) Lena is, of course, more than willing to have kids. She actually wanted to start trying right away after marriage. We agreed to wait 18 months or so before focusing on it. Build a satisfying marriage first, I say. I already have 3 kids. I raised my oldest ones as a single parent and even though they live with their mother now, I have close and strong a father-son/daughter relationships with them. I am always around youngsters. I am still making civilized efforts to keep a basic friendship with my ex-g/f so I can interact with her youngest son, age 11. I'm a grown 6'4, 225 sucker for family and life with kids kinda man. I coach a teenager soccer team even though I have no kids playing in it. I volunteer my time weekly to referee youth soccer games regardless of their age group. Although I was still on the fence about new bambinos until I met Lena, I am now flat out, dead on and totally committed to bring new little Gustavitos into this world with Lena. She is the kind of woman that I jump over to the other side for with no hesitaion whatsoever. toad izifaddag Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 4/4/2005 8:24:44 AM   You give me great hope Toad GLTALLTOAD Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 4/4/2005 2:47:24 PM   Hope is one of the greatest afrodisiacs of all times. Ptichka Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 4/5/2005 3:02:11 PM   Male and Female Energies...hm, I read about this some time ago:) But the article said that there are very few "pure types", the majority is so called "mixed types"....it was very interesting to read about that: Your Reply: Your name:   New Registration Password:   Forgot password?   refresh Code:   Russian brides > Main Forum > Male and Female energies
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