Damn Annika bad PMS day, is it pre or post traumatic?
What lesson am I going to learn? I am curious. That a woman from Ukraine is going to come to the states and become this evil She Devil?
Well she's decades behind on that. It is a very long line here in the states so that is nothing new.
First of all my dear Annika, not many of us are under this illusion or
delusional about what will transpire. That this is this perfect union between two people, though the cultural aspect of my Ukrainian fiance is far more appealing than what is here in the states.
As a point of dreams and reality, there is a fine line. You my dear are pessimistic and one that probably thinks reactionary as to why. Where I am an eternal optimist and say Why not? I am happy to read your negative diatribe, it only inspires me more to make things happen!
The young CIS girls who have just finsihed there university educations will be more career orientated and want to work..these girls will be around 22 years of age..it will be very boring for them to stay at home and be a housewife.
Old traditions in the CIS countries are changing and as the economies improve things are becoming more Westernised and so are attitudes to family and work.
The young girls in the 20 to 30 year age country and more so the 20 to 25 year age range want to move away from the old traditions and family values hence they lookt o the West for a partner because they want the modern and better life..not be impoverished in the former USSR with kids.
Dont belive this marriage agency hype that young Russian girls want to stay at home and have babies..this is utter nonsense.
They don't want to leave high school and go and work as a sales girl in a shop or serve burgers and fries down at McDonalds in Red Square..they want to be educated and not be dumb!
They are much more adaptable than the Russian man who has not coped with the fall of communism and the free market economy and who have turned to alcohol because they can not find a job!
Also for a girl that does well in high school, University education in the former land of the Soviet Union is free and opportunities exist to get a better education, unlike the West where university educations cost thousands of dollars, spaces very limited and beyond the reach of many families as it is unaffordable..Russia and the CIS have the best and free University education system so this is why the young girls ahve batchelor degrees..it is ingrained in them to be educated and do well at it and is a sense of pride in what is a terrible economic enviroment in which they live!
I would be proud if I married a Russian girl and she was a Doctor..my wife the doctor because in Australia you will rarely get a young 25 year old girl with such a qualification..most are only high school educated and dumb!
This si the explanation as why all the young girls and most women have University qualifications.
Im just interested... what old traditions? Everybody worked in Soviet Union, other way you were sent to work camp. We hadnt housewives, everybody worked or studied! If somebody have career in FSU it isnt westernization!!!
yup yup yup...Pretty accurate, I'd say.
The education in Russia, at least, is not just readily and easily available. The academic curriculum is much more demanding at all levels than what we find in most western countries, specially US.
And unlike those hard to find educated and physically attractive western women, FSU women are NOT full of themselves because their higher education allows them to outclass and outperform their peers.
When I came back from siberia and went to parties to show off what I found many were worried about Lena's transition to a new language and alphabet.
Few failed to be completely shocked that at age 27, Lena professionally translates five languages and three different alphabets.
The Soviet Union disintegrated in 1990..it was a communist society where everybody was gauranteed a job and the higher up you were in the communist party ( your social status ) the better the job you had.
But things have changed and I think the country that will change the most in the next 5 years will be the Ukraine under President Yushenko,as this country will move more closer to the West.
Attitudes are changing as people are freer for most part except in such hard line regimes as run in Uzbekistan, Moldova, Belarus etc...some of these former CIS countries are run by presidents and officilas from the Communist Party old guard and unfortunately we will have to wait for these die hards to die off in the next 10 to 20 years.
In Western countries,women are having babies at a latter age as you have to work as the man can not support a family on one income because of high taxes and cost of living.
Russian women are mystical and different..they don't understand mortgages, credit cards and all the financial crap we live with in the West, Annika..it will be a culture shock for a Russian girl to come and live in the West and she will adapt but it will be better if she works than be isolated at home on her own as a "desperate housewife"
I think a lot of Russian girls especially the younger ones will want to work and not be content with being a house wife in the west..its boring being at home all the time..I get bored with it and so would a Russian girl.
To leave your Russian bride at home and bored as a house wife is a recipe for disaster!
RUSSIAN WOMAN ARE NOT mystical and different, I have several russian colleagues they have credit cards and loans...they are economically very smart actually! And in Soviet Union too both parents worked!! Other way you starved!!! Did you lived in Soviet Union???? Did you visited country called Soviet Union. You seem to think we handnt any financial troubles in Soviet days:) :)
What about quality of education of Soviet Union or FSU its all depends what kind of University you finished..its huge difference between Moscow University and some crappy college (institute). So all these very educated girls actually might be not be very educated...if somebody says shes doctor or lawyer smart person askes what university she graduated. Some private colleges in Russia are absolutely crap! And produce unbeliveable stupid bimbos. As it is huge difference between Harvard and some small town college in USA.
Annika,
education at university levels probably conform to what you describe, specially now that more and more private universities pop up. What about grammar and HS education levels, isn't there uniformity in the educational curriculum throught the entire country is is also affected region by region?
My speciality isnt education and I dont live in Russia and I usually dont speak about things I dont know... But its old rule if person finished UNIVERSITY its higher level. I mean Novosibirsk University, Moscow University so on...Private universities are usually for rich and stupid. Smart kids are in so called state places in State univeristies and they dont pay for it. Its very simple description, but truthful I think.
Your hostility is only a forbearer of your ignorance of the men who seek the love of thier life in the FSU. We seek as many qualities in our search as there are personalities who seek them. People have the right to be happy. Our dialoges here help to redefine the finest qualities the FSU women offer. Happyness or unhappiness in relationships is so often defined by the eye of the beholder. All the other things in life are superficial. Many of us myself included visited the USSR before the end and find the hearts of the people to be unchanged. Traditional values are values not deplomas or bank accounts.
Annika77, well you spoke good about our life in the USSR...I can speak about it very good as well...when my mother's wages, she is an educated engineer, were lower then of an uneducated worker and so on and so forth...but these are the sad things, which I don't like to recall from my memory...I prefer to look in future:)
As for you speaking that private universities are for rich and stupid...let me disagree with you:) At my University, there was a certain % of free of charge places, so there was a very high contest between students to get those places. But not all were able to win, those who didn't win, could either wait for another year or study for money. And there was a special loan possibility, you make a contract with a bank, it pays for your education, but you pay back this money during 20 years after your graduation with a very low year %. And many very clever people, did study using this opportunity and they graduated and work now:) And the University I studied is not situated in a big town...yes it is the biggest one in the East of Ukraine, but not the biggest one in the whole Ukraine, but still it is a very good University:)
I hope you know how to translate on computer from Russian. I am continuing to create an Air Castles. I’ve got this e-mail just now. Yoops!
Нет уже сил никаких, все - в Суб еду и все тут, есть адрес, нету - еду и все! И ищу весь день домик с подсолнухами. А лучше напишите адрес, тогда искать не придется. Kарту …… возьму завтра! Нарисую на ней подсолнухи и поеду их искать.
Hmmm? Annika, Harvard is for the rich and stupid, I guess stupid Bill Gates was the worst of them. Hell he didn't even finish College. What an idiot.
As for going to a crappy institute, please define, I must tell my little lady what an idiot she is for going to one. I've met some
pretty intelligent people in my life and I consider myself pretty smart, but she is scary smart, so there must be something to those
crappy institutes. Anyway my dear it's not the school you go too, it's what you get out of your education.