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	Create New Topic   My Posts   My forum buddies   Invite friends   Private messages Russian brides > Main Forum > Age Difference Author Post Adman Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/17/2005 8:11:03 PM   Maxirat Why dont you make an honest woman out of Lena and marry her? Throw a big party lots of wedding photos, get a marriage certificate, get her pregnant etc and its almost a done deal. That "engagement ring" from the two dollar shop isn't fooling anybody Maxirat Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/17/2005 8:17:31 PM   Another very important fact that men looking towards FSU for partners, should take into consideration. To gain compatibility with a young women from their Western Culture is difficult enough. But when you factor in the culture difference as well as the generation difference with the FSU girls – boy it compounds the problems !!! Making the possibility of making a lasting union very difficult and a infrequent success story. The FSU girls are definably mature for their age compared to a lot of our spoilt lot. But if you think they will maintain their “inhibited lifestyles” once released into the wild & wonderful life of opportunities in the West ??? Maxirat Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/17/2005 8:23:48 PM   Adman That will be the 1st thing on our list - when she get here. Haven't secured the Visa yet Bob !! I don't understand your comments and sarcasms. I have had 30 months of hard earned "coal face" experience in this field. If you are not wanting some inside help etc - go and learn the hard way then. I – and some others on this Forum – can save people a lot of $$$ and wasted time, if they take note of some issues. N()R Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/17/2005 8:28:56 PM   Maxi... They get warm fast these days, aren't they? N()R Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/17/2005 8:29:33 PM   Just for the record.. I was talking about the newbies.. Maxirat Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/17/2005 8:34:44 PM   Yes The old saying "you can lead a Horse to water - but you CAN'T make it drink" !!!! I still learn things from this Forum - save $$ on travel - visa's etc etc N()R Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/17/2005 8:48:54 PM   If our eyes are open, and our mind as well.. We will learn something new every day the rest of our lifes! Adman Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/17/2005 10:00:41 PM   Max Your dead right I havent got a clue about all this and give you heaps of credit for being there out there making it happen. From the perspective of someone who hasnt been to FSU, as I havent, it would appear you just go over there, point at the one you want and take her home with you. In my last post I was meaning to marry in Ukraine. From the NZ situation would that carry any wait? From my reading, a Partner Visa would be very difficult to fulfil. Maxirat Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/18/2005 1:00:07 AM   Bob No. Marriage in Ukraine has no recognition. We (Lena) are actually applying for a 9 month “Visitors Visa” We have laid ALL our cards “face up” on the table. They know that Lena will be wanting to stay on and apply for a NZ Residency and then after 2 years apply for a NZ Citizenship. It’s a bloody tricky one. Do you try and go underhand – and do another option to get her here or do you play straight. They (NZIS in Moscow) are not stupid. They have between 30 – 40 applications per month. Yvonne (NZIS boss) opens 50 – 60 emails every morning when she arrives at work. All from men asking if they can import a women !! They need to know that the relationship will have a good chance at working out. Hence my reaction to you aiming at the younger ones. They have had MANY examples where it has turned to custard in NZ and they have had to pick up the pieces & cost of getting the girls home !!! I must admit though (you will chuckle at this one) there is one advantage in going for a younger lady. You could apply for a “Students Visa” But again, they are not stupid and she will get grilled and will need to have good qualifications – excellent English and a good reason for wanting to Study here in NZ. We are actually doing all the Medical & X-ray examinations now and submitting them with the 9 month Visitors Visa. They (NZIS Moscow) suggested this, because they are recognizing we are getting married and she will be staying on longer than 12 months (when the need for these medical Certs is mandatory) It’s a hard one – but that’s the line I have elected to take – I pray it’s the correct one. Should know by mid September. Adman Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/18/2005 5:24:32 AM   Peter Thanks for the run down. I am sure playing it straight would be the best option. Way too much to loose by bullshitting them and messing it all up. It's a good plan, it'll work Be an anxious time waiting izifaddag Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/18/2005 8:41:46 AM   Sorry for disapearing. I will try to write later today and address this issue and my own situation. I apologize I just could deal with the forum just lately. I think the worst was the way Toad was dealt with. But I am over it now. I just prefer good info, honest opinions and some humor. I get all the acidity at work that I need. I will write a little later. Annika77 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/18/2005 9:21:15 AM   And Toad himself was so nice to everybody!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (: gladiatorUK Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/18/2005 9:25:05 AM   Annika: Toad was Toad.....like it or not,he pulled no punches and spoke what he felt was right.A lesson a great deal of people would do well to simulate. izifaddag Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/18/2005 2:56:57 PM   I saw this RW news letter and read the heart of it with great interest. I felt it was very relevant and that is why I posted it. When I started all this I too looked at the younger women and alowed myself to slowly be convinced that it was possible even though my common sense screamed otherwise. AFA and so many other websites do a good job of promoting this idea that these ladies are just sooooo willing to go with an old man just for love. It is, of course, complete nonsense. I have gone backwards and forwards thrashing out things like age and to have or not have kids or to adopt. It has taken a lot of internal conversation and learning from those around me to resolve this for myself. Not just from what I have read on the forum and other places but actual contact with real live people with the age difference going on in their relationships. I was in a bar the other day and got a shock. I was talking to this nice bar girl and she told me she was 21, her husband was 35 and they had a 5 month old child. Everything was fine. She loved him very much and he was a good husband and father. As we all know this is unusual with a western couple. However there is a big difference between a 21/35 couple and a man that is 50 and a woman that is 25. A huge difference. I have changed my internal tune about all this. I used to think that even a 20 year gap was possible. If it was the right people. If she was mature enough. If he was young for his age...................... In reality I was justifying perhaps doing this myself, deep down in my own head. These are not even really justifications. They are rationalisations!! There are exceptions to every rule. As QC said we all know that 90 year old that has smoked 60 a day for 75 years and runs marathons and plays soccer. However 99.9% of folks that smoke 60 a day are in a coffin long before reaching 90!! I have decided to be sensible and stop considering it. I go to Kherson in early September for about 2 weeks. I already have contact with 4 women that I am going to meet, their ages are 38, 39, 40 & 43. Take a wild guess which one is the best looking? Yes, you are right the 43 year old. She is by far the best looking one. She is knockout and looks about 25. She has a 21 year old son for God's sake!!! So this morning I called her friend who speaks fluent English. She was helping with email addresses. She told me about her. SHE REALLY IS THAT GOOD LOOKING!! I have come to the conclusion that with children it is just too late. It passed me by, it is not going to happen. So I shall forget about it and concentrate on finding a lady who is no more than MAXIMUM 15 years my junior. That is downhill with the wind behind me, skin of the teeth stuff. Like as not it will be a woman around the 40 mark to maybe even 45. I am 50 (just) and I can pass for 40 quite easily but I definitely am 50. There are so many factors that can trip you up with tis endeavor that it is not too smart to start adding to the problems by throwing into the fray an age difference of 25 years. So I am going to be conservative. I have put aside the subject of children and I look primarily for a companion and friend that I can love until I die. We shall be a witness to each others lives and in some ways validate them. If in the future this stable solid relationship has a child thrown into the concoction I will not argue with my God. BUT it is no longer a main corner of my hopes. No it is simply love. That is best achieved with someone closer to my own age. Someone that likes ABBA and would enjoy and appreciate the Ufizzi or just watching the sun go down over the Gulf of Mexico. I do not want to attend an aerobics class or listen to techno pop in the confined space of the car. Yes we must be physically attracted to each other but after the initial flourish of sex what then? That isn't what happens in a relationship. It is so much more. You grow into each other. I don't think I can do that with a 27 year old. However each to his own path. I criticise none and applaud others. This is a personal business and what is common sense to one is complete BS to another. Welcome back NOR and we will talk again soon. Izi Adman Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/18/2005 11:04:26 PM   Great to hear you have given up smoking Good on ya They've actually banned it in my country. Best thing the Government has ever done. geriatrix Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/20/2005 1:18:32 AM   Age Difference You don't need to be Einstein to suggest that it is relative. A 30 year old man with a 15 year younger female will attract more attention than a 75 year old man with a 15 year younger female! Maxirat Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/20/2005 1:39:14 AM   Yea - could even bring a Jail sentence toooo Jdbenjamin66 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/20/2005 2:06:57 AM   I have to say I am sorry to everyone ! , To each his own and may he find happiness ! but for myself this was and is a touchy situation for me ! As I said I was married to a much younger lady , and YES she did break my heart , But I have to give this to her , She did show me what love is ! All my friends said it would never work because of the age difference and thought I was nuts , So anyway Now they all think I'm nuts (still) because I am talking to a lady in the Ukraine ! Well after the past week of doing some soul searching in myself , I have to live by what I say ! To each his own ! and may everyone in here find what THEY want . We all have different wants and needs NO one person is the same . That is what makes us all unique . So now just to say to anyone that I have say (stepped on there toes) I am sorry and may you find your happiness ! Mindwire Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 9/10/2005 11:33:41 PM   I asked the girl I write to "Point Blank" on this..... Here's what she said.... I always was of opinion that age difference, no matter how great it is, cannot be an obstacle for relationship between two people. Age difference just makes relationship stronger and more interesting as one always has greater experience on life and things which lead to understanding and avoiding of unnecessary and stupid conflicts that rise between two young people very often. I speak so because I had a very good example of such situation. My grandfather was 18years older than my grandmother and they had such a nice life that many could envy.See relationship are possible even if the gae differs. I don't know about other young women who are writing to you and what they want but I don't want to escape. It's not the reason wjy I'm here. I'm for the reason to find my man and to be happy for the rest of my life.My family support me in my decision. They are happy if I'm happy and it doesn't matter if an older man will give that happiness as long as I'm happy everything is ok.I think life after 20years would be just normal as it would be now. It doesn't change feelings for each other so what else might it change? Well, this is my opinion about this matter. I don't know if you accept such thoughts or not but tell me your opinion about it if you can. Well, I just finished my work so I'll better be going home as I'm hungry and could eat anything now :) Enjoy your weekend and let me know what fun did you do during it :) carlos2005 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 9/11/2005 7:06:03 PM   NOR: I know, I´m your hero. By the way I´m one of the guys pumping $$$ into the U.S. helping the system not to crash. Everybody must deceide by himself what he wants and what he can handle! I have no problems with young women... oh, you´re thinking it´s only about "money"? I don´t think so! I had other experience in the U.S., very young girls inherited millions of $$$, even had more cash on their account than I ever had and it worked wonderful, we was happy, their parents was happy... My deasaster struck when I deceided to go back with a women I loved, but was not rich. But I admid this is not common. Anyway, I´m surprised when look at the site and see how many letters some girlsare getting... 153 and more... look at them, you can find them at the local titty bar!!! Why you morons are not going to your titty bar and pick up one of them??? You know, youre out of your range´and trying to get it somewhere else!!! Your Reply: Your name:   New Registration Password:   Forgot password?   refresh Code:   Russian brides > Main Forum > Age Difference
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