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	Create New Topic   My Posts   My forum buddies   Invite friends   Private messages Russian brides > Main Forum > Need some help - Scammer or not? Author Post GLTALLTOAD Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/8/2005 7:01:18 PM   Whenever I read God's gift (Vanechka) posts on various topics I wonder when is God finally going to open the damn 'Gift Return Window'...???? Cycle, All the DTB (Dump That Bitch) advice given so far sounds a bit premature to me. Before making a final decision, I'd hire a PI to verify her stories...or..follow martin's suggestions about bringing the money in your next trip. Another way to call her bluff would be to ask her to give you all the pertinent employer information so you can arrange restitution DIRECTLY to her company so her little greedy hands do not have the opportunity to touch your moola. I don't believe in creating an ongoing financial dependency with any woman until AFTER they move to your country. Send her all the unexpected gifts you want. All women love that, but a monthly allowance is a double edged knife and both sides have too many negative potential possibilities, in my not so humble opinion. Whatever you decide, do not quit the search that easily...this is only your first stripe after only one relationship in 18 years. Getting the thick skin you need may take a little longer. Stay in the saddle cowboy..:) toad danny3777 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/9/2005 2:36:27 AM   vanechka 08.10.2005 5:51:04 (Your story is the same story I hear from every western man who has tried) Well you haven't heard the same story from me Vanechka so your words are full of shite. There are disappointments in life, particularly in love, throughout the world and particularly in one's home country. If Sergio wants to try again then he can do this in his home country, the Ukraine, wherever. Women will be women and indeed men will be men wherever you go so his country of choice is not particularly relevant. Over the past 7+ years I've come across all types, I've written with ladies such as Sergio's, I've dated quite a number of women, I've made some good and not so good moves, I've made mistakes, but when I write positively, as I did with Sergio,I write from my experiences, both good and not so good, and not from the 'chip on the shoulder' that you so obviously have. nasfan6 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/9/2005 9:20:56 AM   Nicely put Martin vanechka Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/9/2005 10:51:44 AM   Hey Martin Get your dopey head out of your ass.. If you have half a brain you will realise that russian woman have 2 motives 1/Green card 2/Econimic benefit YOU ARE IRRELEVANT TO THEM .. Now you you are too fucken stupid to digest this arent you??? Ask any 3rd party russian female and she will tell your the facts Now Im providing a service here to novice people looking to go and travelk to YUkraine. I am warning them all of the facts.,.. the reality . Now of course maybe you are like most of the guys here who are in their 70s and after a final fuck before they retire playing bowls or maybe want to date a woman with kids, Go for it mate maybe it will work. But for anyone looking for a nice russian chick. Understand that it wont last . they will return to urkaine and eventually all the pretty ones do... Now shut the fuck up loser vanechka Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/9/2005 10:53:08 AM   GLTALLTOAD Arent you the loser who defies my comments then gets on here and whinges about what happened to him with his so called russian bride. the place is a fucken joke danny3777 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/9/2005 11:01:56 AM   Vain, Bearing in mind that I am not American, a green card is totally irrelevant. My wife and I have discussed everything to the finest detail, she's in that much of a hurry to get a western passport that after 2+ years of being together, and 9+ months of marriage, she remains in Ukraine, working and supporting herself, whilst we work together solving some (Ukrainian) family issues. Please do not typecast all relationships based on your own sorry experience(s), you have no focking idea what a strong bond my wife and I have, we truly are the best of friends, we take what we have between us very seriously and we have a lot of fun in the process. Who's the loser, me with a loving wife and best friend or you, a bitter & twisted individual whose only want is to spread gloom and despondancy? vanechka Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/9/2005 11:06:13 AM   but Martin your story is the typical story I read. Your happy for a few years then it self destructs... I have an Aussie gf mate im not bitter about shit. What Im bitter about is the one sided dimensional bullshit I have to read on these sites. Your relationship will eventually fail.. If it doesnt now it will be full of hassles for you and you will never be in peace. Now to you novices reading this do you want to deal with shit talkers any longer? ONEKINDMAN Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/9/2005 11:16:55 AM   LOL you speak like a man with a paper ass, How can you Speak for anyone or know that all has failed? Vane you know about as much about what goes on behind closed doors at other peoples houses as the rest of the world... Do not discourage other People from living there lifes the way they see fit. so take you Pompy ass Bullshit and shove it where the sun does not shine. And for the love of gad Vane your story is like the Typical bitter ass man who couldnt score with the Ladies... I had so much fun in Moscow Bud and I know I could of hit it off very well with many Women there, so please stop speaking it only makes you sound like more a dum ass than what you really are.. Keep hunting guys because shes out there and dont listen to fools like Jack ass. vanechka Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/9/2005 11:21:30 AM   OneKindMan wake up rodwalloper Any guy can "hit it off" with russian chicks. this is the point that you dont get because your retarded. Have a look at all those websites like loveme.com with all those stunning woman with old decrepit reptilic western men at socials. Sure the old farts might even get laid with some viagra. Hey they might get them back to the states etc... but then what ??? They will fuck off back to ukraine read my comments properly dickbrain... you want to go to moscow to have fun thats a different point to finding a mail order bride. The fact is they dont stay with western men and are parasites... If you want to be the next victim be my guest ONEKINDMAN Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/9/2005 11:31:12 AM   LOL your even Hanging around waiting to get into Forum fights Now thats a treat :)) I have read your comments Paper ass and like I said your Bitter... Bottom Line and the truth will set you free. Please stop Fowling up this Forum with your nasty Bung. Jack ass. I would rather take my chances with out being your guest but thanks for the invite Jack ass. danny3777 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/9/2005 11:38:23 AM   Vain, Previously you stated, categorically, that you hear from western men but now, you state that you only read about what western men write. Well read this, I am very happily married to my best friend. I bet you won't spread this happy story during your gloomy and desondent existence that you think is a life. izifaddag Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/9/2005 12:06:10 PM   You are outnumbered and outgunned so piss off. Take your misreable bitter attitude, poor spelling and ignorant grammar with you also. Never in my time on this forum have I seen such a badly informed, bigoted idiot as this one. Stop interfereing with the important stuff on the forum and take it somewhere else like an anger management group or some kind of 12 step thing. Enough already danny3777 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/9/2005 12:44:36 PM   ONEKINDMAN, Hey you're a dickbrain and I'm a cretin! Behave yourself, you must understand that the rest of the world is wrong and Vain is correct in everything he says. Now repeat after me, 'Vain is ...................................' There will be a prize, perhaps Vain's house, for the most appropriate answer. P.S. The judge's decision shall be final! spirittraveller Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/9/2005 1:21:26 PM   Why are you so angry,Vanechka? Or do you just need some attention,regardless of if it is positive or negative? If you know so much,why not try to educate instead of infuriate the many people on the forum? I wonder if you speak to your woman or friends and family the same way as you conduct yourself here. If so, you will not have any of these for long. You are openly hostile,and I do not understand it. In any relationship the angry person suffers from want of solution. This person is the one who needs some counseling. It does not matter if you are right or wrong when you redress every person with the tinged barbs of anger. You do not seem like a stupid person,so I think you must know some of what I say already. You do realize I hope--that this hostile conflict is only going to escalate to the point where your input is banned by the moderators? They are going to become sick of being babysitters to the complainers. WHy not use this forum to make a couple of friends? I think if you hated this place and all the people in it you would not be here. Lighten up,man--we are not the enemy!! You have the right to post,but I know you can do it in a non-spiteful manner. nasfan6 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/9/2005 2:00:13 PM   What I don't get with this goofball is, if you don't like what you're reading then why and the hell are you reading it. If this is all bullshit and a bunch of puppets are you applying for the job of puppeteer? Just another asswipe applying for moron of the month. Spend time with your Australian girlfriend and less time here you idiot. I'm sure you can impress her with you intellectual ramblings, unless she is just one of the parasites as you have described Russian and Ukrainian women. By the way has anyone else here got their $2200.00 check from fiance.com and other supporting agencies? Or am I the only puppet on a string? Later Mike N()R Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/9/2005 2:37:11 PM   Guys... PLease understand that Vanechka probably is someones ex-girlfriend... Someone that found himself happiness in FSU.. That is hard to deal with for a bitch.. vanechka Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/10/2005 12:39:48 AM   nasfan6 any independant party would laugh at you ... Im just tryning to explain to people the sheer reality... not the bullshit that you gulliple twits digest izifaddag Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/10/2005 12:54:09 AM   What an idiot spirittraveller Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/10/2005 1:59:52 AM   let people be concerned with their own ( not yours ) reality zsar Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/10/2005 1:40:43 PM   Dump her mate,she´s taking you for a ride, having a laugh. A scammer of the first degree!! 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