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	Create New Topic   My Posts   My forum buddies   Invite friends   Private messages Russian brides > Main Forum > Earning and spending Money - A tricky consideration Author Post GLTALLTOAD Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/13/2005 12:22:18 PM   "DO NOT think money first" Pardon the mistake. Thunderdome Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/13/2005 1:31:11 PM   Yeah Toad, but old geezer Geri isn't stuck up about money. He doesn't have any, that's all. Harridan Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/13/2005 2:52:49 PM   Spirittraveller that you would not speak money play the big role in a life of a society. They give an opportunity. The woman think about creation of family always more responsibly. In fact on it depends not only her future but also the future of your children. Yes she can marry on the poor shepherd and give birth from him the healthy child. But she can't bring up the healthy child in bad conditions of a life. And once again about the shepherd:) *a huge heart, a good physique, and impeccable hygiene* But you have told nothing about his intelligence. The shepherd can be not interesting to the girl. If the man by 40 years has achieved nothing, it means what this man not so clever. And not interesting. You did not notice that clever people which married the beautiful little fool girl and after years they have nothing to talk. Bagira Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/13/2005 9:49:27 PM   The other question is – How much salary will she able to get after 6 – 12 months in US? I think that most of guys imply that her income will be lower but comparable to theirs. I think that one of the main point why I was not lucky with the American Man is my low potential income. He asked me – how much I will get if I get a job. My answer was – less then 16K. If she will not get a decent job that automatically means that your level of leaving decrease. Especially if you are planning kids. It does not depend how good she is in saving. I do not think that you guys really understand this. nasfan6 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/13/2005 11:12:41 PM   Bagira I think you are missing something a little bit. 16k as a supplemental income is not bad. Actually you can deliver pizza's part time and make that kind of money. Let's say your man makes 40 to 50k a year. Add the 16k to that, then that's not such a bad income. Especially if prudent use of money is done. Two people making 70K a year is above the average household income in the states. Especially if the man is wise with money management. I have spent time making the 6 figure money, now I am more relaxed and I don't make that much with my jobs, but also I have alleviated much stress out of my life. My lifestyle has changed very little. It's not how much money you make, but what you do with the money you make. Saving is the huge mistake many do not take into consideration. Also you should have long term and short term investment goals. My long term goals are pretty simple. My short term goals are leveraging with life insurance in case something would happen to me, then Larissa wouldn't have to worry about her next meal, her place to live etc. I've taken a practical approach in this. I max my investment in my 401K and my short term life insurance is seven time greater than what my Liabilities are, IE mortgage etc. Financial planning has very little to do with the amount of income you make. Sure it helps, but I have many friends who make more than I do and have zero saved. They are leveraged in their homes credit cards, card payments and have very little left to save and invest. My daughters college was paid by Savings bonds that I purchased over the years when she was very young, so I didn't have a tax liability when they matured. I think Toad would be more well versed in the explanation of this. But investment and saving is not for the rich only, if you have a wise plan and stay the course and stay disciplined in your savings and investments. Now with my investments and small side businesses, which are a vending business that I created with money borrowed from a mutual fund and now an investment in a computer business, which after 7 months is starting to show a profit, and I'm pretty much a silent partner with the exception of selling systems and services. My bottom line has increased. I had to chuckle at Annika making the comment, I didn't know your salaries were so poor. Salaries are only a small part of income. Clever money management and education and the willingness to take a risk will create more wealth than any salary will. That's what is all about creating wealth and being able to enjoy it. I have a friend after many years of being a engineer in a racing tire manufacturer, decided he was tired of working for someone else and had the balls to become a day trader. Now he stays at home, sends the kids to school spends about 4 hours a day on his computer, plays 18 holes of golf, picks up his kids after school and then waits for his wife to come home from work, she's a loan officer at a bank. Guess what his income is almost the same as being an engineer. He traded time for money. He's happier now than ever and enjoys his freedom. So the moral to this, get off the money issue. In a capitalist society there are many ways to create income and wealth. I know Larissa will do well here, because all she wants is an opportunity to achieve, no guarantees, and that's what makes it great here. Ptichka Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/14/2005 2:43:07 PM   Also I think that there is a need to differ 2 things: to like and to have an opportunity to and their connection to money spending issue. For example, a girl may like to go out, but because of her financial situation she has no opportunity for that, so going out is not an expense item for her; another example, a girl may like to eat meat, but has no opportunity, so again this is not her expense item; and so forth and so on:) GLTALLTOAD Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/14/2005 8:01:31 PM   I could take off from Nas's 'Toad is well versed blah blah blah.." comment but for what purpose? And to what audience? Bagira, the most important thing a couple can do with their money is managing it so they never end up with too much month at the end of their paycheck. That forces people to do something they often do not like to do in the US. That is budget their income and avoid the pitfalls of personal debt via credit cards. An FSU woman fresh of the plane (first 12 months) should not plan to go looking for a job until she is fluent in the language and familiar with the essential things that make every day life in this capitalist system go tic toc tic toc. Most western men seriously seeking a woman for marriage and family life do not expect to depend on her income, specially if they are planning to raise a family. One of the MOST unattractive characteristics of the western, specially american, woman is that they think they can have a career/job that takes them away from the home at least 40 hours/week + commuting time while at the same time raise children, care for a husband's needs and manage a household. Those women usually do a piss poor job in all those areas. I recently fired and attorney that had the nerve to cancel an appointment on me at the last minute because "..she had to take her kid to the dentist.." toad nasfan6 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/14/2005 10:12:16 PM   Toad My point was, and you could explain it to some here, that have no concept of capitalism, is Salary or income has very little to do with net worth. Later Mike jetmba. Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/14/2005 10:25:14 PM   Good point Nas, regarding the capitalistic side of income - not just dwelling on salary or working for someone else. Actually I've met quite a few Russian women who would PREFER to meet a "buiness man" as opposed to a salaried employee. I know that this ventures again into the area of the importance of income - and these women are NOT necessarily looking for a RICH GUY. But we ALL have shopping lists, regarding the type of partner we would like to find. Whether or not we get exactly whats on the list - we have lists, just the same. GLTALLTOAD Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/15/2005 10:55:43 AM   Jet, One reason why many women would prefer a "business man" over a salaried worker is the superficial value of appearances. Biz men wear suits, carry briefcases, look elegant, sophisticated, etc etc etc...A plumber who owns his small but profitable and well managed business may make twice as much as the well dressed worldly looking salaried banker, but some women still prefer the 'suit', lol. You know you are on the right track when you talk to women who worry more about what you ARE over what you DO or your income status. The last time a woman wanted to inquire about my income I simply told her I earn enough to support three wives simultaneously. She hasn't asked about money ever since. toad danny3777 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/15/2005 11:23:55 AM   Its happens when geriatrix will found ideal profile and meet woman who never ever ask about hes income! Annika, My wife has never asked about my income, she knows that I live comfortably and that I can support her and our future child(ren) as she is happy to be in love with me and not my bank balance. I didn't think that Estonia was 'Soviet', accordinging to you, so what gives you the impression that you can speak on behalf of all 'Soviet' ladies? Annika77 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/16/2005 6:15:33 AM   No, I write here as person who have some logic thinking and excperience of east-west relationship, not woman from non-existing empire. Its clear that to find profile what is written by not native english speaker is nonsense. In some reason I think your income Martin UK isnt very good. Your wife lives in Ukraine? I know how expensive is life in UK, especially in London area. How comfortable is life of your family when you all live in UK? In normal families people know how much is others income, in what ever society. Im sure your wife knows how big is your income, by the way! danny3777 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/16/2005 6:45:15 AM   Annika, You can be as sure as you like, my wife does not ask about my income and in the British culture it is considered rude to talk, to brag, about money. Accordingly, you can think whatever you like about my income Annika, I'm not going to discuss it with you or anybody else, you talk of the London area but I don't live in that area Annika and my wife happens to remain in Ukraine because she needs to supervise the renovations of our apartment there and that work should be completed by March 2006. Ptichka Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/16/2005 7:25:08 AM   Annika77, well the situation with knowing or not knowing the income, depends on a certain family, to my mind:) Personally I, know only approximate income of my boyfriend, but I never asked about the certain number, because I'm not interested in that:) I know that we have a rather comfortable life, and if there is a need for money, we always can find the needed sum, what else should I wish for?:) danny3777 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/16/2005 8:37:14 AM   Thank you Ptichka nasfan6 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/16/2005 5:45:20 PM   Annika you don't think? Damn what a revelation! Damn I was going to ask Martin if I could borrow 20 quid, but since he's so poor, I will have to go elsewhere. Annika you are so full of crap I just laugh at you lack of anything that could conceptially be considered knowledge. danny3777 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/16/2005 5:52:58 PM   Nasfan, I think we can all detect that Annika's main, if not only, interest is in the bank balance of her English 'gentleman' and she doesn't love or care about him 'diddly squat'. I can just imagine them on their first date ..... how much do you earn, what size of house do you have, are you rich, will you spend lots of money on me? ..... OK I'll have sex with you! Annika, please don't judge all by your own sorry standards and if your man in The Netherlands can afford you then he can afford prostitutes also, who are you trying to fool, us or yourself? GLTALLTOAD Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/16/2005 8:15:49 PM   Us and the english booty call, lol spirittraveller Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/17/2005 2:45:22 AM   There are many US states where the per capita income is about 25,000 dollars a year. I will go so far as to say that there are Americans who make 800 clams a month!!! Think about it! . In 1995,I got a DUI, which crippled me as a home service plumber ( could not be insured to drive to the worksites),and cement truck driver. I went from 30,000 dollars a year at this time ( both of my jobs paid about 8 dollars an hour ) to a devestating job as a dental machinist making 6.30 dollars an hour after 3 raises. ( It was a fun trade skill to learn) When I was 17,in 1979,I made 160 dollars a day drilling seismic shot-point holes. I have diverse experience with the ups and downs of construction wages,as I am first: a plumber ( 17 dollars an hour journeyman in Montana--30 dollar an hour journeyman in Arizona--50 dollar an hour in Chicago )and second-a carpenter,having built both residential and commericial/industrial housing. I have worked on my knees for flat ( concrete) finish,and made 15 dollars an hour,and read grade and constructed cement forms for 17 dollars an hour in "right to work states" such as Arizona. The very best times in my life involved either the love of good friends,family or a woman---and no paper currency could ever make or take the place of these things. I know you will agree that in life it is more about "making memories" then about "he with the most toys". I think I can safely guess that the happiest moments in so many of our lives are ones where we feel free from the oppression of society,and confinement by lifelong servitude to the money gods. We read and see again and again the rich people who are miserable. We have replaced our pre-civilization skills of natural preservation based on nature with this religious faith in the power of money. We veritably give our power away-often hurting our close people with neglect. As is said--"the love of money is the root of all evil". Money is,however,a necessary evil-even with those people who have not learned how to love and appreciate what they do have in life,and enjoy some of the comforts they take for granted. The world is correct when they characterize America for it`s waste. We are a study of wastefull excess. Just the daily food my surgery team orders and abandons in one day would feed my family for a week. I am not ashamed to say I feel bad and sometimes take advantage of this. My point is that somehow--just somehow,people do make out in life comfortably,and this means they do not live beyond their means or financial capacity. Every person has a different success level. Having a happy family is high on many lists. Also-poverty is not a crime,but perhaps spiritual bankruptcy is. Again it is based on choices,hard work, committment to long and short term goals,willingness and faith-even when you have bad days. Determination,desire,dedication,and devotion to any cause or relationship---especially family. spirittraveller Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/17/2005 2:49:25 AM   ......and how many people of average or below average intelligence are making the big bucks? How about the ones selling the carpeted doggie stairway,so your pooch can climb up to bed with you? Your Reply: Your name:   New Registration Password:   Forgot password?   refresh Code:   Russian brides > Main Forum > Earning and spending Money - A tricky consideration
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