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	Create New Topic   My Posts   My forum buddies   Invite friends   Private messages Russian brides > Main Forum > Police corruption in Ukraine Author Post Neonred Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/16/2005 6:29:56 PM   Funny thing about GPS devices. I remember reading somewhere that it was absolutely forbidden to bring them into Russia. Now I see they sell them in every high tech store over there. Another sign of the changing times? N()R Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/16/2005 6:30:41 PM   Elman... I have a feeling we both speak the same language, but I guess it is more polite to keep within the english language in the Forum... Just out of curiosity... How long time did you use to drive all the way to Odessa? Have you met someone there already? In what county do you live? I am for the time being in North Tröndelag but I actually live in östfold. Annika77 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/17/2005 5:50:44 AM   Sea! Fjords? Not far from Oslo? Posh! elman_thlr Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/17/2005 6:31:55 PM   Martin: They asked for "onehundred" and I asked in dollars or hrivnas. Then they laughed and said hrivnas and were very friendly after all. (I tried to play stupid, but I knew they wouldnt let me go that easy, so I payed 100 hrivnas) After all, this was late in the evening (around midnight in the middle of nowhere and it was dark outside) I was a little sceptic, but it turned out fine for all I believe). Regarding GPS or not: I did not have GPS maps for my trip to Ukraine and I didnt understand the letters. I wrote on a paper all the major cities along my planned road and followed the signs. I was lucky and went wrong only a couple of times, but as soon I became uncertain I drove back to last crossroad and studied the map. Only minor problems really. N()R: I am norwegian, thats correct....and it is forum rules to keep all posts in english I guess. I spent 1 night on the ferry to Denmark and arrived there at 11:00 in the morning, then I drove through Denmark, Germany and to Krakow in one go (I arrived in Krakow around 03:00 in the night) Slept there for 5 hours and drove to the bordercrossing at Medyka. Stood there for 2-3 hours and drove in one looong go to Odessa via Lvov, Ternopil, Vinnitsa and Uman. I arrived in Odessa around 04:30 in the night, met my girlfriend who were waiting and fell asleep the second I hit the pillow. My girl and her son is from Moldova, but it was easier to meet in Odessa. Now she has applied for tourist visa (3 months), and were told that it would take two weeks before she got an answer. Next year she will visit me and if everything goes well...then we are both(all 3) lucky I guess. Time will tell. If she doesent like the food, climate, culture, me, then I guess we must separate as friends... No matter what happens I will return next summer to see more of Ukraine and hopefully Moldova as well. Oh, I forgot to tell that there are many pretty girls there as well... jetmba. Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/18/2005 12:31:14 AM   I might be missing something here - but you played "stupid" by offering (in response to officers demand) 100 hrivnas or dollars? My experience dealing with olice in the FSU would lead me to believe that theywould have quickly asked for the DOLLARS when responded to like that - which are worth 5 times more than the hrivnas. As I understand it - you would have had to purchase a visa in order to visit Moldova - whereas your lady can travel from Moldova to Odessa with just a passport. Maxirat Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/18/2005 12:39:26 AM   Hi Guys On the subject of driving inside Ukraine What is the story regarding drivers license ?? Also – I want to buy a car and leave in Ukraine. The prices are absolutely crazy. I don’t want a flash motor – just something reliable and solid. 5KUS gets you sweet fanny all in Kiev. Can I purchase in Poland or another European country and drive it in and then leave it there ??? OR are the prices of cars for second hand cars crazy in all European countries ??? danny3777 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/18/2005 4:20:01 AM   Max, Western makes of cars, as a rule of thumb, tend to reflect western prices with perhaps less taxation, for this reason you see relatively less newer western cars but a bucket load of Lada's. If you've ever been to somewhere like Uzbekistan they have Lada's with door handles held on by scotch tape etc. This said, and as an example, Daewoo's, or are they now Chevrolet's, are manufactured in Zaporozhye, Ukraine but one question worth asking, as a non-citizen/resident, are you allowed to own anything or indeed register it in your name? elman_thlr Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/18/2005 11:48:58 AM   Martin: (My english is not very good when I am in a hurry). I tried to play "stupid" for a few minutes, but I realized that they were not letting me go that easy. Then I am completely stupid, for real, asking them dollars or hrivnas. Perhaps the police were stupider than me and telling me hrivnas, or something else. After all, I dont feel that I was being robbed or something. jetmba: I meant she has applied for tourist visa for my country, and the embassy told her she would get an answer within 2 weeks. Then she can visit me next year on a 3 monts tourist visa. (I am crossing fingers of course) Maxirat: You need an ordinary driving licence and an additional international driving licence(which is like a translation of your ordinary licence). I never showed my licence once during my trip there. At the borders they wanted passport and car registration papers. Buy a car in Ukraine and leave the country smells like paperwork. Good luck! Efron Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 4/17/2008 8:18:26 AM   Hi guys, I am going to Dnepropetrovsk on 10th May. that's the first time im visiting Ukraine. I am travelling to Dnepr through Kiev (Borispol). My flight originates in Larnaca. Q1: I think there is an international and domestic terminal in Borispol. How do I get to the domestic terminal? DO I need a bus, taxi? Any directions? Q2: What can you safely (i.e. without being harassed by police) take with you in terms of alcohol? Would there be a problem with 1 bottle of wine? Q3: How are things at Dnepr airport: customs, getting a taxi? thanks, Efron Rag'n'Bull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 4/17/2008 10:54:10 AM   Efron, Endure the entourage of Borispol taxi drivers, try say a firm 'net' before ignoring them totally, walk out of the terminal and turn right, it's less than a 5 minute walk to the domestic terminal. No problem arriving ito Dnepropetrovsk but when departing there the security/police will look for any excuse to get $20 out of you, they've even tried to get $20 out of me previously for having 2 aerosols of deodoreant in my checked-in luggage telling me that only one is permitted. Just stand up to them and refuse to pay them $20. 1 bottle of wine not a problem, oh memories, I remember my brandy sours, I was only thinking of Cypriot brandy quite recently :) beanstobe Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 4/17/2008 1:09:48 PM   Well Martin - not all Ukranian Policemen are corrupt. I was caught doing over 160km at the end of a dual carriageway - Just after the sign of 80km speedlimit -a section between Nikolaev and Odessa. Fortunately the police were co-operative - probably because aa old drunk guy driving a skoda had been stopped. They showed the speed camera, filled in a form and gave me a spot fine of 38 Grivnis. But some are - at one time in Ukraine I had to pay 100 euro spot fine otherwise they would conviscate my vehicle. That was on the route Kiev to Nikolaev last summer - ata a time when many holiday makers were driving down to the coast. Equally many are notorious for not doing anything when there is a serious accident with bodies in the ditches and when cars can blow up. Rag'n'Bull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 4/17/2008 3:02:56 PM   beanstobe, Efron was specifically asking regarding Dnepr airport and there the police are VERY corrupt. Efron, don't take a taxi by yourself, you'll need your destination to be written down in Russian and you're likely to be ripped off. If you're meeting a lady then ask for her to meet you at the airport. Land of oz Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 4/17/2008 7:06:33 PM   I just came back from Dnepropetrovsk. I took the train in but when I got there I walked out and got a cab. When I ask how much to my destination he told me pyetdeset hrevenas (50 or $10) in my mind it registered as pyetnaughtset (15 or $3). He spoke English which was not of concern to me but thinking $3 dollars I ask for his personal phone number. After paying him and realizing that it was $10 I did not use it. Now this was at midnight so although he was not cheap he was probably reasonable and the train station to my apt (just across center city) was not a long distance like the airport would be. The last time I was there I paid from 20 to 40 Hrevnas for cabs. This time the cheapest I used was 25 and ranged to 60 perhaps because of higher priced fuel. At any rate this is not an advertisement for this driver but if you need a reliable English speaking cab his name is Sergey and his number is 8 097 437 73 01 and as with all cabs ask the price before using him. Of course as Martin mentioned have your lady or the agency renting you the apt meet you and ask them to call a cab for you. Rag'n'Bull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 4/17/2008 7:18:30 PM   I don't actually recall seeing an abundance of taxi's at Dnepr airport, certainly not for a domestic flight arrivals from Kiev, perhaps they might have been there for the international flight arrivals but I've only done that twice into Dnepr and I can't recall noticing them. jetmba. Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 4/17/2008 7:20:15 PM   "Efron, don't take a taxi by yourself, you'll need your destination to be written down in Russian and you're likely to be ripped off." Correction - not just likely - nearly GUARANTEED to be ripped off. EVEN in Latvia - where the cabs have meters which are supposed to ENSURE fair treatmen for foreigners - the drivers would either "forget" to turn them on - or insist that the fare shown was wrong and demand more. And they were quite insistant. In Ukraine there ARE no meters, that I have ever seen anyway. If they PERCEIVE that you are American the fare jumps. And it took me quite a while to even get my lady to ask the fare before getting in. She hadn't had much experience with taxis previous to meeting me and certainly hadn't dealt with the idea of foreigners being charged more. And of course I couldn't ask before hand myself without tipping my hand. She got the hang of it after a while. jetmba. Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 4/17/2008 7:27:05 PM   People used to give the advice here to simply have the LADY deal with the taxi, even after getting in. It was suggested that if the foreigner (the guy) simply didn't speak - the taxi driver would have no idea that he WAS a foreigner, might assume that he was Russian (or Ukrainian as the case might be) and would charge a fair fare. THAT DOESN'T WORK. WHY? Because if the guy really was Russian/Ukrainian, then HE would deal with the taxi driver. He wouldn't have his lady do it for him. The taxi drivers are not fooled by this technique. Land of oz Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 4/17/2008 7:57:42 PM   This is true Jet, however if the lady calls the cab and asks the price he does not know there is a man in the background as he would if he was sitting there. The cabs at the airport are usually high dollar rides. To get a decent fare a cab will most often need to be called or simply tell the cab driver you are taking the bus and start walking for it. This will generally lower the rate if he thinks you know the bus fare is 4 or 5 dollars compared to the 40 he is asking and are serious about using it. Personally I enjoy riding the bus and 2nd and 3rd class on the train. There you meet the common people and I have yet to find them unfriendly. jetmba. Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 4/17/2008 8:18:42 PM   Good points, Land of Oz. Called taxis are ALWAYS cheaper than those at the airport. And a taxi driver certainly WILL lower his fare rather than lose you. And, frankly I've enjoyed riding th bus on occasion as well. jetmba. Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 4/17/2008 8:25:42 PM   But regarding Ukrainian trains... I've NEVER ridden third class. Had a walk though a few of those cars on a hot sticky smelly day, on a train going from Donetsk to Simperofol and vowed I would NEVER take travel 3rd class that way. Noe will I let my lady. Second or first class for me. Land of oz Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 4/17/2008 9:36:51 PM   Guess it was far north when I rode third class from St Pete to Kostroma and that was all that was left. It was July but not hot up there and the ride was pleasant. Your Reply: Your name:   New Registration Password:   Forgot password?   refresh Code:   Russian brides > Main Forum > Police corruption in Ukraine
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