Skiired - of the 15 men that were on the Romance Tour with me - one was 19! (and contrary to the common perception that FSU women have no particular interest in really young guys - this guy was with a different beautiful babe everyday in the first week! - by the second week he had picked a gorgeous Moldovan with whom he began Fiance Visa papers).
Perhaps three were in their late 20's or early 30's. Another five (including myself) were in their forties, The rest were older than that. I think the older three guys were in their 60's.
Most of the guys were of substantial means - though they did not want it broadcasted. They were concerned (of course) that women would be interested in ONLY that. Toe of the guys were physiciams (but each asked of course that they NEVER be refered to as "doctor"). One was aa Anesthesiologist, the other a Psychiatrist (damn - I should have gotten his card - maybe he could have helped Marty). One guys was an attorney and the another a State Judge.
A few independently wealthy men, some who had worked all of their lives and were drawing pensions, but most just had fairly good paying jobs.
It was a good mix.
Unfortunately, jmoluv tells me (and I just looked myself) that European Connections is no longer doing Romance Tours. But I'm sure that you have info on the two companies that still are conducting tours with the large Socials.
Well if you both click why not. The two people involved very well know why they are both meeting. We all know what this is about. So, start the visa on the first or second trip. Visit her a few times during the visa process, talk on the phone, write letters...whatever.. Then once she gets here spend the time togeher and I think after 3 or 6 months depending which country your from, you are both going to know very well whether its going to work out or not.
Life is crazy, its too short and why not take some chances in life. I think all of us that have been to the FSU are a special type of breed. Plus, me personally, I love adventure and travelling.
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You can just meet someone where you live and settle with what you have. Maybe you can get lucky and meet someone you really love, but then again if we can all be that lucky then why are we here. I'm not settling just to be with someone. I am going to have a woman that is my second half and I dont give a shit how long it will take, what I have to do to get there or how many times I have to visit there. I'm going to do it without being pissed off at the world, I'm happy I'm alive and healthy and I wake up to see the sun everyday. In the meantime, until I find that special lady for me I continue to date here and who knows, maybe I will get lucky and find my second half here at home. Until that happens I forge ahead!
This was a Romance Tour set up by an American company (European Connections out of Atlanta Georgia). It might surprise you but ALL of the male participants were AMERICAN.
Under American law, it has to be proven that you MET within the two years previous to filing a K1 application.
A single meeting at a Romance Social and the accompanying pictures, are enough, under American law, to qualify for a Fiance Visa application.
He DIDN'T bring her home with him. That is a popilar, but WRONG, conception of what the Fiance Visa process is all about in the US.
It takes mush more than a couple of days - under the best of circumstances. (okay, technically there is Direct Consular filing in many countries - but the American citizen must show that he has established residence in the country in question - and the Romance Socials do not last THAT long).
The fiance vosa can take months or over a year to complete in the conventional way, from the US.
Excellent approach to this somewhat difficult excursion we take. As for Jets opine on the visa process he is correct for Americans. Though I was somewhat surprised how quickly our application process went. There are many variables in the speed of the process and the end result the interview. The K1 application is not that painful and relatively simple process. You just have to document things and make sure your lady understands this. Like I said in a previous post, the most difficult thing to acquire was Larisa's documents. They were scattered in different cities and it required her to travel a little, then she would get a bit of run around and have to go back. In the beginning of the K1 process translated photocopies are acceptable. Though at her interview, and this relates only to the American Embassy in Ukraine, she will be required to have the originals. She did have photocopies to start the process, but as we got past the Service Center in Nebraska, she had to start acquiring the originals which took some time. The process for us was
4 weeks at the Nebraska Service center, Three weeks at the National Visa Center and approximately 4 weeks for her to receive her packet from the embassy in Ukraine. All this time you can monitor the process on the USCIS website.
When she receives her packet{I'm speaking of Ukraine} she can forward her checklist of documents via email, or fax. I will be leaving at the end of January and returning with her in the first week of February. Then the real
process will begin. Whether we can make it as a couple in the US or not. I know it will be difficult, but I am looking forward to the challenge in the same optimistic way that she is. Like you said in your post no risk no reward. The only thing I am risking is my heart, Larisa is risking everything to be with me. That idea alone humbles me so much. To know that a woman will risk everything she has known all her life for the opportunity of love and happiness to be with me! To me that is the greatest form of love and respect that a woman can give a man. I know without a doubt that I am the luckiest guy in the world to have her in my life!
Nasfan was fortunate in that the Visa process seems to have been speeded up recently. There are individual forums on VisaJourney.com populated by people who currntly awaiting approval of applications from each of the various visa centers in the US. I spent a good deal of time in forum dedicated to the Nebraska Visa Center and can assure you that I was not the only person waiting a ridiculously long time to ge my application approved about a year ago.
That the process is faster now is great - but remember it can ALWAYS SLOW OWN AGAIN.
My lady and I sent our completed K1 application to the Nebraska Center in midDecember of 2004. We received our NOA1 (Notice of Application 1) just indicating that the application had been received and was in queue for eventual processing dated December 23, 2004.
No activity was shown (they have a email servcie through which you are notified) on our application until late FEBRUARY - some eight or nine weeks that the application just sat there before it was approved. Other members of the Nebraska forum (on VisaJourney) who were finally approved on the same day that OUR application was, had been waiting since June or July of 2004. And, no, it did not matter if they had used the services of attorneys or NOT (much to the chagrin of those who had).
It took more than six weeks after that for the National Visa Center in New Hamphire to even acknowledge receipt of the application. After that the process was speeded up considerably and she was eventually scheduled for an interview in Bucharest in midApril.
If your application is not complete or if they have a question about anything on it - you can receive an RFI (Request For Information). This will, of course, delay your application as you provide whatever documentation they are looking for. again, according to other Nebraska forum members, it did not seem to matter if you had an attorney working with you or not. Fortunately, our application never received a dreaded RFI.
It was not uncommon even a short year and a half ago, for people to wait MUCH LONGER for a fiance visa than they do today. Lets hope the new-found expediency continues.
Did you ever receive or inquire as to what caused the delays. That would be interesting to find out. Needless to say, I was really surprised at how quick the process went after reading much here and on visa journey.
I know from reading after the Hurricanes, The texas service center slowed down to a snails pace and some of the work load was supposedly distributed to other service centers.
Our K1 package was sent to Texas but forwarded to California. All K-1's are going to California from Texas. I mailed it out September 26 and received the NOA1 dated October 5, and then received the NOA2 dated December 7. The letter from the NVC was dated December 23, and "promised" our documents would be forwarded to the embassy in Moscow within a week. The problem now is that the Moscow embassy is making interviews 3 months down the road. Looks like 6 months total time for our process.
No RFI's and no attorney. I called her as soon as I got the letter from NVC and told her to start working on the police certificate. She already has all her other documents ready. I just need to finish all things required for the affidavit of support I-134 and send her the the duplicate packet I sent to Texas with all the original papers.
I echo your comments about finding a girl that will give up everything for me. This new year will be something very special.
Hey, and if you think we have it bad waiting to get our ladies here, take a look at visajourney.com. I was just reading posts from several people doing K-1's going through embassy in Dominican Republic. After the embassy there receives the documents the wait time is still more that one year!
Nasfan - nothing in particular caused the delays. The beauracracy was just quite slow moving at that time. There was a group of some thirty people on the visajourney forum who had all submitted K1 visa applications within three months of each other. We were all tracking NOA1s and NOA2s and comparing our waiting times to each other. EVERYBODY was waiting similar amounts of time. We were all quite envious at the time of people who had applied through the Vermont Servcie Center. We often visited the forum dedicated to those people or would check the official postings from the service center itself which indicated expected waiting time. At that time Vermont was approving in one to two WEEKS where we in Nebraska and those in Texas were waiting two to three MONTHS (California was faster than Texas or Nebraska, but slower than Vermont).
In our little group of thirty people there would periodically be a posting for someone who had received an RFI (request for information), and with great teeth gnashing that person would assemble the documents and know that he/she was now completely out of queue with the rest of us. And RFI meant a waiting period of AT LEAST a month more.
FORTUNATELY - it seems that all Service Centers have gotten up to speed with Vermont now. And I want to reiterate - it didn't matter at all if you used an attorney or not. Those who had, waited the same length of time.