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	Create New Topic   My Posts   My forum buddies   Invite friends   Private messages Russian brides > Main Forum > sex Author Post vivalasvegas Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 3/29/2006 11:00:57 AM   felicedate So if i have 3 girls i am writing too, shoud i go and have sex with all 3 of them before i decide whom to marry?? Ladies... what do you think about that?? Could you trust someone who screwed everyone while looking for a wife? Sounds like a cheap excuse written by a sex tourist. I do not mean to be insulting or to put anyone down, i too think that sex before marrige is a must but shoud there be any limits? in my travels, i never slept with anyone without them knowing that they were only a one night stand. Personally i would feel bad if i bedded a girl who thought that i would marry them if i slept with them. I do write to 4 girls right now, and would not sleep with any of them unless i was pretty sure there was a good chance for marrige. How would that girl feel if i slept with her then decided to go meet someone else?? Anyone have any answers to this quandry?? Adman Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 3/29/2006 8:24:26 PM   Viva The Russian woman I met was young, beautiful and rich, At this stage in her life she is not interested in marriage and her philosophy on life is; I will do what I like, I will go where I like and I will f... who I like. So I guess it all depends.... Akylina Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 3/31/2006 9:50:59 AM   bagira, that is beautiful, i agree with you! (are you religious by any chance?) either way, i know it sounds cliche, but saving yourself for someone is one of the nicest thing you can do for your partner. felicedate Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 3/31/2006 4:46:30 PM   Viva, you answered your question yourself: "... i too think that sex before marrige is a must". yes, it is! What can I add? This is a serious approach. I never told that you should sleep with everyone your eye stays on. I've been too old-fashioned and not cynic myself all the time and din't allow myself to have sex with a woman whom I din't consider worthy of beeing my future wife. But I would run away immediately from a crazy chick who would say that she can't "do this, before we go to church". We are not living in the 18th century and at least science proved that sexual compatibility is not the least thing in the family's harmony. Hot_wife Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 4/1/2006 7:42:04 AM   Felicedate, I agree it isn’t 18th century. However have you ever heard term “sex tourist”? This is one of the things lots of women afraid of. That you are a sex tourist. I’ve heard stories like “...he’s coming to see me time # (a lot) and everything is great, but I think he’s using me only and he doesn’t have anything serious on his mind” Or sometimes women wouldn’t want to look too easy, they do not want you to think less about them because they had sex with you. So I think if you have relations for some time if you met more that ones and you think about going to a next level as a couple, and she would be sure that you are serious about her, and she wouldn’t do it, than is a time to think and may be run away. Bagira Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 4/2/2006 1:22:38 PM   vivalasvegas I think that especially disgusting the attitude that sex is a must if he is pretty sure there was a good chance for marrige. It is just a good excuse. A woman can rather easily recognize a “f@cker” person especially if he uses phrases like : “then we be married”, “our future kids”. But it is almost impossible to recognize a piece of crap if he really feels that he is looking for a wife and did not have relationships for a rather long time. Akylina About religion: I go to church every Wednesday. It is extremely interesting. Now I am thinking on opinion of one of Bishops: he believes that God create an evolution. I do not understand this point of view yet. Adman Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 4/3/2006 2:59:23 AM   Good tip. Dont talk about marriage or children until after you are married. That makes sense. Not. Adman Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 4/3/2006 3:43:50 AM   Hot Wife If a guy takes time off work, travels thousand miles, spends thousans of dollars just to have sex with a woman, the woman should feel flattered. Hot_wife Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 4/3/2006 4:12:29 AM   Huh! There too many of them to be flattered. vivalasvegas Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 4/3/2006 5:38:57 AM   Bagira, since you are an expert on moral fiber and human sexuality, when is the right time to have sex with the special girl whom you are considering for marrige? At what point should we discuss matters of children and marrige? You know as well as I that there is MUCH deciet in these international relationships from BOTH sides. I have witnessed personally the effects of sex tourism on good marrige-minded girls. Many of the guys here are not as expert as you on courtship customs in the FSU. Do not expect us to be. All of us are human beings with needs and desires, is it right to be condendending if two consenting adults have sex? Now i live in Vegas... sin city. Tourist girls would use me for sex in much the same way that sex tourists use FSU girls. I know how it feels for the shoe to be on the other foot. Now personally, having been in this situation more then once, i wish to avoid breaking hearts. i honestly seek marrige. I also seek honest relations. Perhaps you are unaware that an FSU girl would gladly sleep with an american just for the priveledge on being wined, dined and romanced for two weeks with no serious intentions of marrige. Do not insult me by insinuating that my serious intentions are "disgusting" because i just happen to sleep with a girl whom i thought was serious. As a chuch going person, perhaps you shoud remember not to bear false witness... you can call me a hypocrite as being an adulterer, but before you stoop to that, pointing to someone elses bad behaviour to cover up your own is no excuse. I agree with hotwife quite a bit. I have no desire to be a sex tourist. Living in "sin city" offers daily chances for one night stands. Why would i fly thousands of miles for what i could get by merely picking up the phone here at home. Another thing that you have overlooked is the strong possibility of real love and marrige as a result of my "digusting" attitude about sex. If that sex brings two serious marrige minded adults closer together, and the resulting sex fosters true feeling of love, is it still disgusting? Bagira, Let me apologize in advance if this post sounds like a flame, but i really felt offended after reading your post and i want your most honest answer. Bagira Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 4/4/2006 2:02:15 AM   I do not believe that it is impossible to find an American girl of your age with similar values and attitude to life. The only advantage for looking a Russian woman is - the possibility to find a pretty girl 10 – 20 years younger - to find a person who will be much less adjacent to local life and so create a family where husband is absolute Head. Did you make a superior image of Russian woman and trying to find a princess? Why not to start looking for American girl? Ask all your relatives and friends ( especially girl friends with whom you have never slept) to acquire you with a woman of you age. I am sure that you will find a woman of your dream in two months. About sex. Just live with information that your behavior is disgusting if you were pretty sure there was a good chance for marriage. You just going from one girl to another with excuse that she is not the One. I am not an extremely moral person. I care mostly about my own life and my own feelings. And I think that the only honest behavior is Sex after marriage. Bagira Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 4/4/2006 2:25:53 AM   Vivalasvegas, I do unterstand about your human beings with needs and desires. Sex tourist is not the person who is looking for one night stand. I think he is looking for a outburst of love, lust and adventure. And he needs good marriage-minded girls. With sex that brings two serious marriage minded adults closer together, and the resulting sex fosters true feeling of love. He also believe himself as a serious marriage minded adult. He gets all this true love from girl, overwhelms, rest and then moves to the next dream about true love. vivalasvegas Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 4/4/2006 10:15:01 AM   Bagira, living in Las vegas creates a different situation then the ones you mentioned. Sure in some cases to find a much younger girl, or to be head of household motivates many whom are on this site. For me, it is a simple matter to find someone here, The problem here is to find someone who is not addicted to gambling, drinking, drugs or has occasional bouts of prostitution. This is sin city... good girls who come here become corrupted. My hopes in finding is to find a good wife, and make a fortune while i am here and get the hell out!!! Sure i have had my escapades in other countries.... i have had my escapades here too, but i want better. As i mentioned before i never slept around with anyone unless they knew it was only a one night stand and of course it does not make it right, but it could be worse. What you have described above is exactly what i wish to avoid. I want to rise above that.. but if ever the time comes when i do find one whom i think is Ms Right.. then the question becomes... Shoud i ?? ... Now just for the record, FSU girls are not what i would consider "marrige material" i did have a pretty good prospect in Ukraine. I met her personally and wrote to her for 3 months but she expressed that i was not the one for her, because i was not rich enough... was that just an excuse on her part or maybe if i had gone all the way with her, then perhaps that would have created the bond that could have made it last a lifetime. PS.. i would like your honest answer.. but please leave out the insults, it is unbecoming of a woman of high moral fiber as yourself and it may discredit your opinion to others who read this. Thank you and have a pleasant day. Adman Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 4/4/2006 3:47:37 PM   Hotwire Your writing about women thinking, "Is he just using me for sex," is as equally pathetic as my own question in mind, "Does she love me or just what I can provide". However I do not have to ask the question for long. After I have sex with an FSU woman , I then tell them I have no money. This is a test. If she still wants to have sex with me, I know that it is true love. If not, its ok. Everyone has had a good time, no harm done. Its the only way. papagoose4 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 4/8/2006 4:05:31 AM   Reply to Ira. Ira, I am not an old ugly farmer nor am I poor and stupid. I may be a little older (64) but feel like 40, and I will be travelling to Moscow this summer to meet a dear lady not for the sole purpose of having sex. if I want sex, I would not have to come to Moscow, believe me. The lady is very sincere, and so am I. I am looking forward to see Moscow, and all that comes with it. Believe me not all americans are what you think they are. vivalasvegas Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 4/11/2006 9:03:33 AM   Bagira.... where are you ? Where is your responce?? or are we too disgusting to engage in an intelligent debate on the matter of sex. Bagira Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 4/13/2006 7:52:14 PM   Viva, I was too busy – I was thinking only about sex. I am trying to test a hypothesis that Enhancer of split work as a repressor for early promoter of Sex lethal Pe. I have almost made a germline and now I am going to make in situ. I do not want to insult you – I just do not believe that a young man is not able to find a wife in your own country. I do believe that most women, whom you meet, attitude to you exactly like you want them to attitude to you – one night standard. At the same time I know that if you want, you can meet in Las Vegas any type of women. My friend had been living in Las Vegas for a couple of years – without legal status. She (a very attractive young woman) was working as a cleaner or housekeeper and City is not able to spoil her. I do not think that you are ready for marriage. "but if ever the time comes when i do find one whom i think is Ms Right.. then the question becomes... Shoud i ?? ..." vivalasvegas Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 4/13/2006 11:30:22 PM   Bagira... it makes me happy to hear that you are not hiding from this discussion. Although i do do get the first paragraph of your post. I do want to make this comment... i mentioned before about how the corruption of agencies and scammers make it a very difficult task to find true love in the FSU. The owner of the agency i went to Ukraine with, wrote and dated dozens of girls and made 12 trips to the FSU to find his wife... but he finally succeeded. Others who have been on this forum have made multiple trips... without success. Vegas is pretty much the same way. How much heartbreak shoud one endure before finding a decent girl?? How many psycho girls do i need to endure? Yes there are good girls in Vegas... but this town is a land of fantasy and illusion... I too feel the tempation of continuous sex with beautiful girls, but resist... it leads to nothing, serves no purpose. Worry about your friend, to see constant immorality of all kinds wears upon the soul, just wait and see how her attitude will change when a vegas playboy gets ahold of her. To me, the FSU is also a land of illusion, to see these heavenly beautiful girls with seemingly good intentions looks like a dream come true... but it is still a dream. Many have painfully discovered this when they travel there. Don't get me wrong... there are angels in both places.... hidden away. Some have found their angels, in the lands of illusions and fairy tales. It is possible.. just not probable. I choose to search in greener pastures, where the saints are easier to find. Would you want to date one hundred dirtbags before you found someone who was worthy to share your life with??... i don't. You say i am not ready to marry.. do not be so quick to judge. I was married once before, and it was great!!! She left me to go with a 70 year old guy with a mountain of money and poor health. All she has to wait for him to croak so she can get the money. I shoud have never brought her here. Vegas corrupted her, the call of easy money can spoil the purest of hearts. She has admitted this to me, she understands what she does and still calls, whining about how she misses being treated like a princess.... blah, blah, blah. She knows where i live. Now back to the subject at hand... i am not a sex tourist. Now the i ask you again... if i do meet the one who i feel is ms right, do i wait for marrige or do i break the golden gate? Words are easy... actions speak louder then words. Is sex the test of passion? During the act, one will be able to tell if she is into you. If she gives herself to you fully and passionatly, then you will see and feel the sincerity. Is this true or is it distrust and parinoia? Is it right to test a woman in this way? After all, women test men all the time. You know this, you are a woman (i hope) I would be nice to be able to blindly trust a girl enough to wait until marrige, but in this day and age when deceit is so rampant, blind trust equals stupidity...... I will travel to the greener pastures. Bagira Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 4/14/2006 7:45:57 PM   Viva, To test what? What are you going to discover after sex? I never saw a Ukrainian girl who did not look sexy. How sexually attractive this girl to you? You would feel it without sex. What will happens with you sexual life after two – three years of marriage? Even if you would live with this girl for 5 years, you will not improve (more probably only make worse) the prognoses for future. I think that most girl want a lot from life. Each person wants different things. Do not afraid, do not lie and feel like a poor loose and everything will be great. You need sex without marriage only if you are still looking for another girl or want to be alone, without any real person in your life. Postman02891 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 4/15/2006 11:06:54 PM   Attitiude toward sex is defined in your upbringing and then by your social enviroment and personal mora;ity and self disapline or lack thereof. The good book preaches sex before marriage is wrong, which I tend to agree with. Just look at all the unwed mothers and fatherless children out there or those that are given up for adoption or become wards of the state, which we have to pay taxes to support. Now, having stated the abov, I would tend to say that would not apply to those that were once married but now are divorced, provided, of course they had become mature enough not to create children that others must support. Your Reply: Your name:   New Registration Password:   Forgot password?   refresh Code:   Russian brides > Main Forum > sex
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