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	Create New Topic   My Posts   My forum buddies   Invite friends   Private messages Russian brides > Main Forum > Lady on this site replied NOT interested in me BUT on other site she is Very interested in corresponding with me Author Post ben2006 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/24/2007 12:46:43 PM   apal some of the things you say are spot on. But you do contradict yourself a lot. Maybe you are a good guy just looking for a lovely wife, I'll accept what you say. Certainly some things you say would be useful to newbie’s and have a lot of insight in to marriage agency business and offer a different perspective to most of the guys here. I do find it odd you spent some many weeks there and didn't sleep with a single girl. But each to his own. Don't assume though when guys ask about the price of taxis, apartments etc they are all cheap. You said yourself if you go for 2 months you wouldn't spend as much. I make the same sort of money as you and travel a lot with work also. But where I'm from you don't brag about it. When I spend my own money I look for the best deal. Not the cheapest, but the best value for money. I'd rather save a few bucks and stay longer or save it for our future. I know my wife loves to spend, and didn't use to think about next week let alone next year. But she is learning. It’s not like I give her a few bucks a week either. She’s flown back home 4 times in the last 7 months and had a month trip to NZ. She takes out $300 a week when she’s away. She wastes money at times and I just have to let her learn a lesson she’s only 23. She always tells me what she buys because she wants me to know, but I don't think of it as my money. If I spent lots of money when I was first visiting her she would expect the same all the time and of course money doesn't go as far in the west. They don't know whats normal for you. And if you did that you'll probably attract the wrong type of girl. Its easy to impress a girl over there for a few weeks or months but you have to think things will be in the future. jetmba. Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/24/2007 3:02:02 PM   MONADA - apal won't be running to or from anything in the company of me. He kinda likes 12-yr old boys. And I'm into FSU women. There is something pretty strange about that guy - that just doesn't ring true. Thunderdome Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/24/2007 4:14:30 PM   Apal honey, you're right indeed, I'm a flaky weirdo. Who knows, maybe I'm also a snot nose sucking lollipops, a male one that is ..... getting exited yet? Then turn back to your extravagant penthouse and have a cold jacuzzi, the bubbly's included in the rent no doubt. If a reasonable looking guy - mind, reasonable only! - does not get laid whilst browsing for some time in a Russian town then there's something exceptionally wrong with that person. I remember it as THE place where women are more than open, sorry, let me rephrase, where attractive women approach you sometimes bordering on aggressively. Does not, yes, I didn't say cannot, for the sometimes blatant curiosity displayed resembles the proverbial silver platter of which a man simply will eat. Such a meal makes one hardly a sex-tourist, and mind, it is for free, this in contradiction to buying the best on offer. Now remember I'm just a flaky weirdo, not some attractive rich hunk. Would you care to elaborate on your problem a bit here? How long were you there again? apal1 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/24/2007 10:34:49 PM   Yeah you are a weirdo, no reason to elaborate. Thunderdome Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/25/2007 12:19:53 PM   Whoaa, not so fast my boykie...... you forgot flaky! And eh, you exit hastily because you don't really know what's wrong with you do you? My my, go see a doc man, impotence is waiting for all of us eventually. Some become it sooner than that, but then this is where Spam comes in handy. Just check one of those messages - nudge nudge. And if not that, maybe you're too shy to t-t-talk t-to w-w-women without blushing or s-stttuttering? Don't despair, advice is near - start drinking. I don't mean just the elitist bottles, no, plain beers seem to do the trick well worldwide. Ask any girl - ah no, that would be a vicious circle. And hey, don't forget the side-benefit eh? They ALL get pretty, even for the pickiest of snobs I'd say. It's an old saying: beer helps ugly people to have sex. Nono, don't thank me, it's a pleasure, glad to be of any help. Try it, and report back here when you've lost your virginity! apal1 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/25/2007 4:23:15 PM   Nope. Nothing you said related to me. But you are a wierd flake. lol! apal1 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/25/2007 4:45:37 PM   I agree with what you posted Ben. Setting false expectations can lead a guy into failure from the beginning. That is why I didnt go for the 3-bedroom $300/day flat and hire a limosine. :)' $300/wk while she is on vacation? Only an FSU girl could live on that. lol! ben2006 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/25/2007 5:32:50 PM   haha. Damn never thought of hiring a limosine over there. Well $300 when shes at home with no real expenses, a vacation would be different but not much more. Even a cheap stake like me would struggle on that. $300 a week... thats what you tip your bulter when your over there isn't it? 9davo Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/25/2007 1:19:07 PM   xtc11 i did meet a woman from army of brides in March. yes she turned up to meet me!!! Mind you i had requested to meet 6 other women from the site that i had been writing to but they all contacted agency making various excuses not to meet me. apal1 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/25/2007 2:49:06 PM   If you were writing 7 girls in the same city, it's no wonder they didn't ALL want to see you. That's a completely absurb way to approach this. You really expected a girl to take you seriously? Why not just get a catalog while your there and go shopping for a wife... because that's how they view guys who do exactly what your doing / did. If you ask them in person about your approach, I have no doubt you will hear just how much a girl will not respect you if your wanting to meet her and 6 other girls in the same city AT THE SAME TIME! You really think she is going to feel special or little better than a sack lunch to be disposed of when your done with her? It's what sex tourists do... they line up half a dozen girls to see which one they have chemistry with, nail her and then leave. Ben - oh I see I didn't answer something. No I wasn't a saint in Colombia -- just in Ukraine. Colombian women through themselves at you -- it is a cultural thing. Mind you that sex permeates Cali culture -- you dont see that type of cultura in the FSU. Not to this extent. Globus Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/25/2007 3:18:51 PM   Ya but Apal, if these women know he talks to so many other women in the agency and hate it so much and think he's an unserious sex tourist then why do they continue to write to him? If they don't like it, they shouldn't be writing him anymore, period. Maybe it's just more proof that a lot of the women get paid by the agencies to write guys, then when the guy wants to come and meet with her she is mysteriously "unavailable" at that time. But I do agree that going there to meet tons of women in the same city probably won't make these ladies too happy and will make them feel unspecial. It is understandable. beemer18 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/25/2007 5:09:29 PM   'if these women know he talks to so many other women in the agency and hate it so much and think he's an unserious sex tourist then why do they continue to write to him?' Simple answer- $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ 'Maybe it's just more proof that a lot of the women get paid by the agencies to write guys' Bingo,..Globus, getting really good at this!! apal1 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/25/2007 8:23:17 PM   Globus - I am pretty darn sure they do compensate the women who join. Perhaps they might get free meals, tickets -- something. Way too many girls are actually answering my questions about their wanting to leave, and if they are really sincere with the process. Answer? More are saying they are not that serious about the marriage agencies. Surprised me. And most do not want to leave or have certain obstacles that need to be overcome first, like family approval, etc. This one girl says she never really thought about leaving the country and she is on this site... O... K.... ????? I think a lot just like the penpal aspect to tell you the truth... Globus Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/25/2007 9:16:47 PM   So not only do we have to worry about the fact some interpretor at the agency may be pretending to be the girl you think you're talking to, but now we have to worry about the fact even if we are talking to a real girl she may only be doing it because the agency pays her to do it and she has no interest in a real relationship with a foreign man OR any real interest in leaving her country. To top it off if you actually do get to meet with her then you have to content with the prospect that she might be only meeting with you so she can get gifts, free dinners and maybe a free holiday.... It all makes me wonder why I even bother with this anymore... :-( beemer18 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/25/2007 9:55:45 PM   Globus, Got to keep the faith.....your example is an extreme..worse case scenerio. I have been talking with girls that seem pretty sincere, others are easier to tell that they maybe un-sincere. Takes time to differentiate them. As a rule of thumb, look at letters, how often- couple times a month, is letters only a couple sentences, do you get answers to your questions? These are examples, to me, that girl is questionable. Hopefully a meeting (not too long after writing)will answer many questions. One of my early questions to girls are do your family know of your search for foreign guy? and are you comfortable with the possibility of you could be leaving your country? 'It all makes me wonder why I even bother with this anymore... :-( The thought of me finding the love of my life in a beautiful, intelligent, family oriented girl!!! As long as I have that dream, I will be looking for her. When THAT flame dies, I will change my dreams. beemer18 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/25/2007 9:59:05 PM   Also, I very firmly let them know.....that I am very serious in my search to find someone to share my life with..or beloved or second half or whatever you would call it........... apal1 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/25/2007 11:05:34 PM   Globus - yes it can be harsh out there... but there is a way to reduce your risk and still proceed. By now most of have seen first-hand, the marriage agency is an industry down there. A lot of the very pretty girls in the big cities now dream of meeting the rich guy. Okay its pretty obvious when you see it first-hand. Yes, when writing to some of these girls, they sometimes do admit they might not be totally sincere about the process or even leaving the country. This was acknowledged. I can prove the verification via (1) email from anastasiaweb, and (1) via this website as well. Not good news? Maybe I am unfortunately bursting someone's bubble. It's not mean to offend by any means. I am just explaining what actually occured this week in my own letters from two different girls, in two different cities entirely. Mature, pretty girls, with kids? = Good chance she is more than a little sincere. Women with kids to support have little time to waste for childish dreaming. Just food for thought. Yes, I am in very strong agreement with beemer here - again? :) And its that you might just want to ask this girl you are starting to write, how her family views her being in the agency. The younger and more dependent the girl on her family for support? The more her family may have in influencing her final decision. If you can get past these simple obstacles in letter writing? You are on the way. Listen it's realistically difficult but not impossible... just harder that most of us imagined it would have been when we began this ordeal aka "enlightened journey" ... but it does get a lot easier if you listen to how some of us overcame obstacles in the past and are still proceeding forward with this at the moment. I also ask a girl if she needs a rich man. Some are honest and frank. Yes, those get booted to the curb faster, simply because I have had my fill of self-centric, material girls. They bore me to quickly. beemer18 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/25/2007 11:36:47 PM   Apal, The more I read your posts, the more I think we are going after DIFFERENT girls!!!! Thank God! Mine do seem to understand what is process and where it may end up. Some girls are very strong in their thoughts of going wherever, their future husband will be and that is even the early 20 somethings. I usually don't go after girls with kids, then again things could change down the road, I do have a couple thou. One interesting fact.....in the past year every one of girls I have corresponded with in their 30's have dropped out for various reasons, I can't explain why!!! Money and the word 'rich' have never entered in any letter I have ever had with any girl in any site!!!!! I heard it said somewhere...... the very wealthy never talk about what they have, while the very poor are always talking about what they have!!!!!!! aussieman41 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/27/2007 6:16:09 AM   Foreign women with kids may be a more stable option, beemer..if you give there kid a good home and provide, they may be less likely to leave you or scam you. Apparently single FSU women with a kid or kids find it very hard over there, most FSU men will not marry a women with a kid and the single Ukraina mother will do anything to give her kid a good life, a stable family with a man that will accept and look after her kid and they are less likely to use you or leave you. This is not always the case but the consensus out there seems to be previously married and divorced FSU women with kids are more likely to be stable and faithful to you. A women in her late twenties or thirties with a young pre-teenage kid ( probably 3 to 10 years age ) may be a good and stable option but it does bring additional immigration problems with red tape and paperwork over the kid and legal permissions for the kid to leave the FSU..perhaps the FSU women who has a kid needs the legal documentation for the sole custody and the letter the father has given up his rights to the child before a fiance visa process starts. Its only a suggestion. It may be good option for us guys who already have kids from a previous marriage and don't want anymore such as myself. Life has many options, each picks whatever suits them! aussieman41 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/27/2007 6:18:06 AM   Foreign women with kids may be a more stable option, beemer..if you give there kid a good home and provide, they may be less likely to leave you or scam you. Apparently single FSU women with a kid or kids find it very hard over there, most FSU men will not marry a women with a kid and the single Ukraina mother will do anything to give her kid a good life, a stable family with a man that will accept and look after her kid and they are less likely to use you or leave you. This is not always the case but the consensus out there seems to be previously married and divorced FSU women with kids are more likely to be stable and faithful to you. A women in her late twenties or thirties with a young pre-teenage kid ( probably 3 to 10 years age ) may be a good and stable option but it does bring additional immigration problems with red tape and paperwork over the kid and legal permissions for the kid to leave the FSU..perhaps the FSU women who has a kid needs the legal documentation for the sole custody and the letter the father has given up his rights to the child before a fiance visa process starts. Its only a suggestion. It may be good option for us guys who already have kids from a previous marriage and don't want anymore such as myself. Life has many options, each picks whatever suits them! PS: I am out of the FSU women finding game..I will down the track look for an Asian chick on my half of the world Your Reply: Your name:   New Registration Password:   Forgot password?   refresh Code:   Russian brides > Main Forum > Lady on this site replied NOT interested in me BUT on other site she is Very interested in corresponding with me
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